On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:33:28 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I keep my firearms stored in a closet with trigger locks in place
I never quite understood what a trigger lock was for unless you were
just trying to keep a toddler from using the gun. It would only slow
down a teenager for a few minutes and a thief can still steal the gun.
I was able to get the trigger lock off of a pistol I bought with a
paper clip, in about 30 seconds without any damage to the pistol or
the lock. If I did not care about the lock, it would have been more
like 5 seconds. using one of any number of common tools.
I really prefer locking up the whole gun, preferably in a safe that is
hard to find. Again, I think a big safe sitting in plain view is just
a target. These days, safe cracking tools are at the Home Depot. A
metal blade in a cutoff saw or even a grinder will make short work of
most safes (typically 16ga steel). If it is a "better" safe, go with a
diamond blade.

One of my safes is in plain view but bolted to the floor. It's also not
a Bass Pro special. It's very well made and would take a long time to
breach.

Have you ever seen what a diamond wheel on a 14" cutoff saw will do?
It may be a little noisy and pretty messy but it is not slow.
Usually a real thief will go after the sides or the back. They might
cut the top off.
They usually know where the weak spot is.