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The Brits just lost an MP ... shot. I thought they didn't have any
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Keyser Söze Wrote in message:
On 6/17/16 1:00 AM, wrote: The Brits just lost an MP ... shot. I thought they didn't have any guns there. D'oh. Better, compare the murder by gun rate per 1000 between our two countries. Start a new thread if that's what you want to talk about, asshole.I suppose you like O'bumma's plan to take guns away from the innocent to protect the guilty. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:25:19 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 6/17/16 1:00 AM, wrote: The Brits just lost an MP ... shot. I thought they didn't have any guns there. D'oh. Better, compare the murder by gun rate per 1000 between our two countries. Tell that to the dead MP's family |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/17/16 1:00 AM, wrote: The Brits just lost an MP ... shot. I thought they didn't have any guns there. There are reports, as yet unconfirmed, that he used a "homemade gun" he made from plans in a U.S.-based white nationalist publication or website. Probably a Trump supporter, too. You need to do a little more research. England has a gun problem. Lots of the guns were reactivated weapons, from the days when the Brit's could own anything. Some are starter pistols that have been made usable. Biggest problem in England is ammo. Sort of like the state of California has tried. So lots of the ammo is reloads. 100 years ago, the English could still own any weapon, including machine guns. That was right guaranteed by a statute from Parliament when the people were worried about despot rulers. Unfortunately it was a statute and not a Magna Carta type law. So a later Parliament changed the law. At least we have the 2nd amendment to protect us from despot rulers. And the 2nd can not be changed by Congress. Seems as if the SCOTUS has been allowed tho. The 2nd is not about hunting weapons, it is about politics! Especially bad politics. You say we can not defeat an army. How many of the military would oppose the people? Russia stationed soldiers far from their homes, and in different countries, so they would not have to choose between their neighbors and the government. With islamoterrism on the rise, we may need more lenient gun laws to protect ourselves from those who ignore laws anyway. |
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On 6/17/16 1:14 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/17/16 1:00 AM, wrote: The Brits just lost an MP ... shot. I thought they didn't have any guns there. There are reports, as yet unconfirmed, that he used a "homemade gun" he made from plans in a U.S.-based white nationalist publication or website. Probably a Trump supporter, too. You need to do a little more research. England has a gun problem. Lots of the guns were reactivated weapons, from the days when the Brit's could own anything. Some are starter pistols that have been made usable. Biggest problem in England is ammo. Sort of like the state of California has tried. So lots of the ammo is reloads. 100 years ago, the English could still own any weapon, including machine guns. That was right guaranteed by a statute from Parliament when the people were worried about despot rulers. Unfortunately it was a statute and not a Magna Carta type law. So a later Parliament changed the law. At least we have the 2nd amendment to protect us from despot rulers. And the 2nd can not be changed by Congress. Seems as if the SCOTUS has been allowed tho. The 2nd is not about hunting weapons, it is about politics! Especially bad politics. You say we can not defeat an army. How many of the military would oppose the people? Russia stationed soldiers far from their homes, and in different countries, so they would not have to choose between their neighbors and the government. With islamoterrism on the rise, we may need more lenient gun laws to protect ourselves from those who ignore laws anyway. The 2nd Amendment is no protection against "despot leaders." |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/17/16 1:14 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/17/16 1:00 AM, wrote: The Brits just lost an MP ... shot. I thought they didn't have any guns there. There are reports, as yet unconfirmed, that he used a "homemade gun" he made from plans in a U.S.-based white nationalist publication or website. Probably a Trump supporter, too. You need to do a little more research. England has a gun problem. Lots of the guns were reactivated weapons, from the days when the Brit's could own anything. Some are starter pistols that have been made usable. Biggest problem in England is ammo. Sort of like the state of California has tried. So lots of the ammo is reloads. 100 years ago, the English could still own any weapon, including machine guns. That was right guaranteed by a statute from Parliament when the people were worried about despot rulers. Unfortunately it was a statute and not a Magna Carta type law. So a later Parliament changed the law. At least we have the 2nd amendment to protect us from despot rulers. And the 2nd can not be changed by Congress. Seems as if the SCOTUS has been allowed tho. The 2nd is not about hunting weapons, it is about politics! Especially bad politics. You say we can not defeat an army. How many of the military would oppose the people? Russia stationed soldiers far from their homes, and in different countries, so they would not have to choose between their neighbors and the government. With islamoterrism on the rise, we may need more lenient gun laws to protect ourselves from those who ignore laws anyway. The 2nd Amendment is no protection against "despot leaders." Why? |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:38:00 -0500, Califbill
wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: The 2nd Amendment is no protection against "despot leaders." Why? Harry thinks the Air Force would nuke us I guess. It is clear that they are not that effective against a civilian insurgency. When have we ever won one of those? Even in the last war we won (WWII) we defeated the standing armies but we had to make concessions to the civilian population to chill them out. (we let the japanese keep the emperor, engaging him to end any insurgency and we let the germans keep all the property they stole from the jews ... and more, chilling out the nazi supporters.) |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:43:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 6/17/16 1:00 AM, wrote: The Brits just lost an MP ... shot. I thought they didn't have any guns there. There are reports, as yet unconfirmed, that he used a "homemade gun" he made from plans in a U.S.-based white nationalist publication or website. Probably a Trump supporter, too. He got off at least 3 rounds in rapid succession so that is a heluva zip gun. If this is true it talks to the futility of gun control even more than an illegally owned gun. |