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Henry Rifle in .308
Supposed to be in production later this year, a Henry lever action rifle
in .308 (and several other calibers) with a box magazine instead of a tube magazine. Why? Because you really don't want a tubular magazine with "pointy" bullets. Prototypes on display at major shows. |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:04:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: Supposed to be in production later this year, a Henry lever action rifle in .308 (and several other calibers) with a box magazine instead of a tube magazine. Why? Because you really don't want a tubular magazine with "pointy" bullets. Prototypes on display at major shows. Strange hybrid I suppose. I doubt you will like the recoil of a .308 in a locked breech gun which is that light. |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:26:40 -0400, Alex wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:04:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Supposed to be in production later this year, a Henry lever action rifle in .308 (and several other calibers) with a box magazine instead of a tube magazine. Why? Because you really don't want a tubular magazine with "pointy" bullets. Prototypes on display at major shows. Strange hybrid I suppose. I doubt you will like the recoil of a .308 in a locked breech gun which is that light. No kidding. My .30-.30 is a beast. My 12ga is easier on the shoulder! Yeah, Harry said my M1A had too much recoil for him and it is a gas operated, heavy sombitch. I do feel it if I shoot 75-100 rounds in an afternoon. |
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On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 9:35:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:26:40 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:04:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Supposed to be in production later this year, a Henry lever action rifle in .308 (and several other calibers) with a box magazine instead of a tube magazine. Why? Because you really don't want a tubular magazine with "pointy" bullets. Prototypes on display at major shows. Strange hybrid I suppose. I doubt you will like the recoil of a .308 in a locked breech gun which is that light. No kidding. My .30-.30 is a beast. My 12ga is easier on the shoulder! Yeah, Harry said my M1A had too much recoil for him and it is a gas operated, heavy sombitch. I do feel it if I shoot 75-100 rounds in an afternoon. my favorite is the 303 Brit. Bolt action. packs a wallop but easy on the shoulder. |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 23:06:18 -0500, Califbill
wrote: My buddy bought one of those about 55 years ago. Then he found out he had trouble getting the 303 ammo. It is around now but you are probably getting it online. |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 23:06:18 -0500, Califbill wrote: My buddy bought one of those about 55 years ago. Then he found out he had trouble getting the 303 ammo. It is around now but you are probably getting it online. I think it was early in the import tim. He probably paid $6-8 for it. And maybe only a gun shops had the a,mo stocked. $6-8 sounds cheap, but minimum wage was $0,74 to a buck then. I think I paid $50 or so for my Ithaca mxl 37 20 ga in 1970. monkeying.ward, and the guy tossed in a box of shells. No waiting period on long guns then. |
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On 6/13/16 10:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:26:40 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:04:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Supposed to be in production later this year, a Henry lever action rifle in .308 (and several other calibers) with a box magazine instead of a tube magazine. Why? Because you really don't want a tubular magazine with "pointy" bullets. Prototypes on display at major shows. Strange hybrid I suppose. I doubt you will like the recoil of a .308 in a locked breech gun which is that light. No kidding. My .30-.30 is a beast. My 12ga is easier on the shoulder! Yeah, Harry said my M1A had too much recoil for him and it is a gas operated, heavy sombitch. I do feel it if I shoot 75-100 rounds in an afternoon. Did I say that? I don't recall. I do know that I did say I thought these rifles were too heavy for me to drag around on my shooting forays. Seven to seven and a half pounds is a heavy enough rifle for me. I like my 5.56, .357 MAG and .22LR rifles. Your mileage, obviously, varies. But the .50 to .70 a round for non-ferrous .308 ammo is more than I am willing to pay for my informal target shooting hobby. |
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I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working.
Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war. |
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5:52 AMTrue North
"Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war." ---- I can believe it. |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 01:10:36 -0500, Califbill
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 23:06:18 -0500, Califbill wrote: My buddy bought one of those about 55 years ago. Then he found out he had trouble getting the 303 ammo. It is around now but you are probably getting it online. I think it was early in the import tim. He probably paid $6-8 for it. And maybe only a gun shops had the a,mo stocked. $6-8 sounds cheap, but minimum wage was $0,74 to a buck then. I think I paid $50 or so for my Ithaca mxl 37 20 ga in 1970. monkeying.ward, and the guy tossed in a box of shells. No waiting period on long guns then. Ye Olde Hunter (Interarmco) had SMLEs on sale for about $15-20 in 1965-66 but the uncircumcised look was a little strange for American tastes. You could get the ammo there too but I think it was Boer War surplus. (actually WWII but pretty ugly) They also sold an assortment of other old military surplus rifles for as little as $5 but you really had to be careful that it was not some obscure caliber. |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working. Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war. I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk guys. The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago. |
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10:23
- show quoted text - I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk guys. The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago. ..... The .303 is still standard for the ancient and accepted Lewis gun which is still in the queens arsenal since ww1. Hard to improve a hammer. |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: 10:23 - show quoted text - I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk guys. The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago. .... The .303 is still standard for the ancient and accepted Lewis gun which is still in the queens arsenal since ww1. Hard to improve a hammer. In the days of belt fed machine guns I find it hard to believe a Lewis is actually taken seriously. I could understand it in WWII when anything that went bang was needed but now, just the logistics would be a nightmare. That is one reason why NATO tried to standardize down to 4 basic calibers. |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working. Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war. I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk guys. The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago. Except for the powder, could be a great mining opportunity in the Harbour. The value of brass and lead. |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:04:14 -0500, Califbill
wrote: wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working. Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war. I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk guys. The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago. Except for the powder, could be a great mining opportunity in the Harbour. The value of brass and lead. I doubt the value of the metal would mitigate the dangers of 70 year old cordite and dealing with the marine fouling. |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:04:14 -0500, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working. Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war. I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk guys. The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago. Except for the powder, could be a great mining opportunity in the Harbour. The value of brass and lead. I doubt the value of the metal would mitigate the dangers of 70 year old cordite and dealing with the marine fouling. The cordite could be a basis for good fertilizer. Auto feeder, to an underwater cutter. Then wet cordite. Lots of nitrates. So all parts sellable. |
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11:03 On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - In the days of belt fed machine guns I find it hard to believe a Lewis is actually taken seriously. I could understand it in WWII when anything that went bang was needed but now, just the logistics would be a nightmare. That is one reason why NATO tried to standardize down to 4 basic calibers. ---- Think British, man. Think British! I can't say it truly is in the queens arsenal today, though it might be in reserves, but the Lewis showed its head at the Fauklands a few years ago. |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:26:40 -0400, Alex wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:04:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Supposed to be in production later this year, a Henry lever action rifle in .308 (and several other calibers) with a box magazine instead of a tube magazine. Why? Because you really don't want a tubular magazine with "pointy" bullets. Prototypes on display at major shows. Strange hybrid I suppose. I doubt you will like the recoil of a .308 in a locked breech gun which is that light. No kidding. My .30-.30 is a beast. My 12ga is easier on the shoulder! Took the Mosin Nagant to the range this past week. Put 20 rounds through it. Yes, my shoulder was a bit sore, and I was holding that stock very tightly against it. |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 06:07:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/13/16 10:35 PM, wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:26:40 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:04:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Supposed to be in production later this year, a Henry lever action rifle in .308 (and several other calibers) with a box magazine instead of a tube magazine. Why? Because you really don't want a tubular magazine with "pointy" bullets. Prototypes on display at major shows. Strange hybrid I suppose. I doubt you will like the recoil of a .308 in a locked breech gun which is that light. No kidding. My .30-.30 is a beast. My 12ga is easier on the shoulder! Yeah, Harry said my M1A had too much recoil for him and it is a gas operated, heavy sombitch. I do feel it if I shoot 75-100 rounds in an afternoon. Did I say that? I don't recall. I do know that I did say I thought these rifles were too heavy for me to drag around on my shooting forays. Seven to seven and a half pounds is a heavy enough rifle for me. I like my 5.56, .357 MAG and .22LR rifles. Your mileage, obviously, varies. But the .50 to .70 a round for non-ferrous .308 ammo is more than I am willing to pay for my informal target shooting hobby. Maybe this memory problem is what is causing all the lies? |
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On 6/14/16 2:25 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 06:07:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/13/16 10:35 PM, wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:26:40 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:04:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Supposed to be in production later this year, a Henry lever action rifle in .308 (and several other calibers) with a box magazine instead of a tube magazine. Why? Because you really don't want a tubular magazine with "pointy" bullets. Prototypes on display at major shows. Strange hybrid I suppose. I doubt you will like the recoil of a .308 in a locked breech gun which is that light. No kidding. My .30-.30 is a beast. My 12ga is easier on the shoulder! Yeah, Harry said my M1A had too much recoil for him and it is a gas operated, heavy sombitch. I do feel it if I shoot 75-100 rounds in an afternoon. Did I say that? I don't recall. I do know that I did say I thought these rifles were too heavy for me to drag around on my shooting forays. Seven to seven and a half pounds is a heavy enough rifle for me. I like my 5.56, .357 MAG and .22LR rifles. Your mileage, obviously, varies. But the .50 to .70 a round for non-ferrous .308 ammo is more than I am willing to pay for my informal target shooting hobby. Maybe this memory problem is what is causing all the lies? There's no "maybe" about you being a racist and an asshole. |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Think British, man. Think British! I can't say it truly is in the queens arsenal today, though it might be in reserves, but the Lewis showed its head at the Fauklands a few years ago. Yeah you are right, They still have a Queen. I guess they never get rid of any anachronism |
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Wayne.B
- show quoted text - === "And they still drive on the left when most of the world is on the right. Â*How weird is that?" We drove on the left also until 1923 and the Japanese still do. |
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On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 5:51:58 PM UTC-4, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:52:16 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Think British, man. Think British! I can't say it truly is in the queens arsenal today, though it might be in reserves, but the Lewis showed its head at the Fauklands a few years ago. Yeah you are right, They still have a Queen. I guess they never get rid of any anachronism === And they still drive on the left when most of the world is on the right. How weird is that? A few years ago I flew into London and drove about 80 miles to a town north of there. I had rented a car, and made sure I got an automatic transmission since I didn't want the added hassle of shifting a manual with the wrong hand. Remembering to keep to the left was hard enough. I had done it in the Cayman's but had a co-pilot with me then, in the UK I was by myself. I was there a week, and still found myself walking up to the left side of the car to get in most of the time. Old habits and all. |
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Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 5:51:58 PM UTC-4, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:52:16 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Think British, man. Think British! I can't say it truly is in the queens arsenal today, though it might be in reserves, but the Lewis showed its head at the Fauklands a few years ago. Yeah you are right, They still have a Queen. I guess they never get rid of any anachronism == And they still drive on the left when most of the world is on the right. How weird is that? A few years ago I flew into London and drove about 80 miles to a town north of there. I had rented a car, and made sure I got an automatic transmission since I didn't want the added hassle of shifting a manual with the wrong hand. Remembering to keep to the left was hard enough. I had done it in the Cayman's but had a co-pilot with me then, in the UK I was by myself. I was there a week, and still found myself walking up to the left side of the car to get in most of the time. Old habits and all. Company I worked for in the 80's, had a London area office. One of the engineers from there was over here for 6 months. When he arrived back in England, leaving the airport, forgot which country he was in, and got in a head on accident. Low speed and no one hurt luckily. |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working. Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war. I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk guys. The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago. A little cheap than that. Just add shipping... https://www.wikiarms.com/group/303British |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:51:46 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:52:16 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Think British, man. Think British! I can't say it truly is in the queens arsenal today, though it might be in reserves, but the Lewis showed its head at the Fauklands a few years ago. Yeah you are right, They still have a Queen. I guess they never get rid of any anachronism === And they still drive on the left when most of the world is on the right. How weird is that? When I worked in the Bahamas, we drove on the left. Do they still do so? |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:04:39 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: Wayne.B - show quoted text - === "And they still drive on the left when most of the world is on the right. Â*How weird is that?" We drove on the left also until 1923 and the Japanese still do. New Zealand too. That is when dyslexia is a plus. I just flipped left and right in my brain and carried on. It made Judy crazy when I said I was going up here and turning left ... and I went right. The skill set is the same. (look at the traffic in the "right" way and such.) |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:59:21 -0400, Alex wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working. Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war. I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk guys. The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago. A little cheap than that. Just add shipping... https://www.wikiarms.com/group/303British Steel |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:59:21 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working. Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war. I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk guys. The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago. A little cheap than that. Just add shipping... https://www.wikiarms.com/group/303British Steel $.68 for brass. Just uncheck "Steel" and "Reloads". |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:04:44 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:51:46 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:52:16 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Think British, man. Think British! I can't say it truly is in the queens arsenal today, though it might be in reserves, but the Lewis showed its head at the Fauklands a few years ago. Yeah you are right, They still have a Queen. I guess they never get rid of any anachronism === And they still drive on the left when most of the world is on the right. How weird is that? When I worked in the Bahamas, we drove on the left. Do they still do so? === Yes. The Bahamas, like Bermuda, Canada and New Zealand are (or were) UK colonies/countries. I think Japan is the only exception but I'm not sure. I've driven on the left a number of times but it requires a great deal of focus. |
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Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:51:46 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:52:16 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Think British, man. Think British! I can't say it truly is in the queens arsenal today, though it might be in reserves, but the Lewis showed its head at the Fauklands a few years ago. Yeah you are right, They still have a Queen. I guess they never get rid of any anachronism === And they still drive on the left when most of the world is on the right. How weird is that? When I worked in the Bahamas, we drove on the left. Do they still do so? US Virgin Islands also drive on the left. They said it was a leftover from when the roads were donkey trails. |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 23:21:15 -0500, Califbill wrote:
Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:51:46 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:52:16 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Think British, man. Think British! I can't say it truly is in the queens arsenal today, though it might be in reserves, but the Lewis showed its head at the Fauklands a few years ago. Yeah you are right, They still have a Queen. I guess they never get rid of any anachronism === And they still drive on the left when most of the world is on the right. How weird is that? When I worked in the Bahamas, we drove on the left. Do they still do so? US Virgin Islands also drive on the left. They said it was a leftover from when the roads were donkey trails. And I believe the 'driving on the left' is what leads the British to walk on the left, whereas here we generally walk on the right. I also believe we train dogs in this country to heel on the left because the British, who probably invented 'heeling' train their dogs to do so. In Britain, then, two dogs meeting will meet with the humans between them. But, here, the dogs meet head on. We should be training our dogs to heel on the right. There, I'm glad I finally got that off my chest. |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:23:37 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote: And I believe the 'driving on the left' is what leads the British to walk on the left, whereas here we generally walk on the right. True, the "in" and "out" doors are opposite and revolving doors go the other way. Once you swap left and right in your mind, it just comes naturally. I also believe we train dogs in this country to heel on the left because the British, who probably invented 'heeling' train their dogs to do so. In Britain, then, two dogs meeting will meet with the humans between them. But, here, the dogs meet head on. We should be training our dogs to heel on the right. I would be happy if Mr Ed stayed with me. He seems to think "within sight" is heel and even then he forgets sometimes if he sees another dog. I don't remember the dogs in New Zealand "heeling" all that much either. It was more like Ed rules, they stayed somewhere close and "no worries mate". We did see a lot of dogs. It is funny that dogs seem to be the same all over. Even their mutts looked like our mutts even if all of the other animals were different. Breed standards are the same but most of the dogs looked like mutts to me as soon as you got out of the big city. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:04:44 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:51:46 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:52:16 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Think British, man. Think British! I can't say it truly is in the queens arsenal today, though it might be in reserves, but the Lewis showed its head at the Fauklands a few years ago. Yeah you are right, They still have a Queen. I guess they never get rid of any anachronism === And they still drive on the left when most of the world is on the right. How weird is that? When I worked in the Bahamas, we drove on the left. Do they still do so? === Yes. The Bahamas, like Bermuda, Canada and New Zealand are (or were) UK colonies/countries. I think Japan is the only exception but I'm not sure. I've driven on the left a number of times but it requires a great deal of focus. Intersections are tough after driving on the right for your whole life. |
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