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Califbill May 24th 16 01:42 PM

Nice Boating
 
Keine Krausescheiße wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time.
Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside".

===

Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in
the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a
problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a
shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run
outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much
when the wind's blowing.

As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly
scenic.


I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to
buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got
lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap
I put on the new bar top.
Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go
inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of
Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-)


Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in
our kitchen that is past
the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it.
Consumer Reports seems to like
the quartz over the granite for countertops.

Why are you so down on quartz?
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!


Most I have looked at, just looks boring.


Justan Olphart[_2_] May 24th 16 02:45 PM

Nice Boating
 
On 5/24/2016 7:44 AM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time.
Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside".

===

Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in
the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a
problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a
shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run
outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much
when the wind's blowing.

As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly
scenic.


I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to
buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got
lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap
I put on the new bar top.
Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go
inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of
Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-)


Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past
the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like
the quartz over the granite for countertops.

Why are you so down on quartz?
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

We chose granite for our new house. It's prettier. Although seams in
quartz will be less noticable. Quartz has a lot of resin in it so I'd be
wary of setting a hot pan off the stove on it. Side benefit to granite
is you can thaw a 1" steak on it in about 30 minutes. Quartz supposedly
doesn't need to be sealed, although I never sealed the granite in our
old house and it looked like new the day we moved out. Our transitory
home(RV)has Corion and it scratches easily.

[email protected] May 24th 16 04:42 PM

Nice Boating
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:44:08 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time.
Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside".

===

Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in
the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a
problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a
shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run
outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much
when the wind's blowing.

As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly
scenic.


I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to
buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got
lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap
I put on the new bar top.
Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go
inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of
Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-)


Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past
the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like
the quartz over the granite for countertops.

Why are you so down on quartz?


It is just miserable to work, compared to granite. I assume the pros
have a trick I can't find. I believe they actually seal it instead of
polishing it. When I use the diamond pads I got for granite, I can get
a smooth dull finish but it never actually polishes out. I have a
bunch of quartz and I am not sure what I am going to use it for.
I did manage to find enough with the appropriate factory finished
edges for my country kitchen. There are polishes you can put on it to
bring back the shine but it doesn't last long. Bear in mind this is
outside. My granite bar top is doing great after a few years.

[email protected] May 24th 16 05:14 PM

Nice Boating
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:45:14 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 5/24/2016 7:44 AM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time.
Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside".

===

Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in
the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a
problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a
shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run
outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much
when the wind's blowing.

As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly
scenic.

I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to
buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got
lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap
I put on the new bar top.
Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go
inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of
Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-)


Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past
the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like
the quartz over the granite for countertops.

Why are you so down on quartz?
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

We chose granite for our new house. It's prettier. Although seams in
quartz will be less noticable. Quartz has a lot of resin in it so I'd be
wary of setting a hot pan off the stove on it. Side benefit to granite
is you can thaw a 1" steak on it in about 30 minutes. Quartz supposedly
doesn't need to be sealed, although I never sealed the granite in our
old house and it looked like new the day we moved out. Our transitory
home(RV)has Corion and it scratches easily.


"Quartz" is really just an aggregate suspended in a resin base with
some color added. When you cut it, you smell a "fiberglass" type
plastic smell. I got about 30' of material, 25" wide when they
remodeled the club house. It had an additional 6" trough on the back
side that was just glued on. It is pretty tough glue. It was good that
they finished the edge on that side tho.
For a DIY guy like me, granite is a lot easier material to work with.
You just need to buy some diamond tools ... but I like tools.

Keine Krausescheiße May 24th 16 07:37 PM

Nice Boating
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:42:32 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:44:08 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time.
Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside".

===

Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in
the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a
problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a
shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run
outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much
when the wind's blowing.

As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly
scenic.

I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to
buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got
lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap
I put on the new bar top.
Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go
inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of
Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-)


Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past
the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like
the quartz over the granite for countertops.

Why are you so down on quartz?


It is just miserable to work, compared to granite. I assume the pros
have a trick I can't find. I believe they actually seal it instead of
polishing it. When I use the diamond pads I got for granite, I can get
a smooth dull finish but it never actually polishes out. I have a
bunch of quartz and I am not sure what I am going to use it for.
I did manage to find enough with the appropriate factory finished
edges for my country kitchen. There are polishes you can put on it to
bring back the shine but it doesn't last long. Bear in mind this is
outside. My granite bar top is doing great after a few years.


Outside. OK, maybe that has something to do with it. We've not started looking yet.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

[email protected] May 24th 16 08:49 PM

Nice Boating
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:37:53 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:42:32 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:44:08 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time.
Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside".

===

Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in
the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a
problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a
shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run
outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much
when the wind's blowing.

As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly
scenic.

I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to
buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got
lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap
I put on the new bar top.
Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go
inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of
Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-)

Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past
the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like
the quartz over the granite for countertops.

Why are you so down on quartz?


It is just miserable to work, compared to granite. I assume the pros
have a trick I can't find. I believe they actually seal it instead of
polishing it. When I use the diamond pads I got for granite, I can get
a smooth dull finish but it never actually polishes out. I have a
bunch of quartz and I am not sure what I am going to use it for.
I did manage to find enough with the appropriate factory finished
edges for my country kitchen. There are polishes you can put on it to
bring back the shine but it doesn't last long. Bear in mind this is
outside. My granite bar top is doing great after a few years.


Outside. OK, maybe that has something to do with it. We've not started looking yet.


The quartz that has the factory finish seems to be doing OK outside.
it is just the stuff that has the liquid polishes on it I see in the
"how to" web sites that will not last. I have lost track of our
cabinet buddy so I really do not have anyone to ask how the pros do
it.

I have plenty of material to test with so I will do some torture
testing and see what holds up best to heat, scratches or anything else
you guys come up with. I love science projects. I know sharpie pen
comes right off of all of them because that is what I am using for
layout. A little lacquer thinner wipes it right off.

I just roughed in my piece of granite
This is what I got, not really square and some cuts on the bottom edge
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Granite%20from%20boneyard.jpg
Here I have cut off the bad edge, squared it up and roughed in the top
edge and corner radii.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/granite%20roughed%20in.jpg

I am about done with the 100 grit pad so tomorrow I will start the
polishing. That is the rewarding part because you actually see it
starting to shine up.

Keine Krausescheiße May 24th 16 09:29 PM

Nice Boating
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:49:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:37:53 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:42:32 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:44:08 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time.
Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside".

===

Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in
the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a
problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a
shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run
outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much
when the wind's blowing.

As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly
scenic.

I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to
buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got
lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap
I put on the new bar top.
Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go
inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of
Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-)

Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past
the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like
the quartz over the granite for countertops.

Why are you so down on quartz?

It is just miserable to work, compared to granite. I assume the pros
have a trick I can't find. I believe they actually seal it instead of
polishing it. When I use the diamond pads I got for granite, I can get
a smooth dull finish but it never actually polishes out. I have a
bunch of quartz and I am not sure what I am going to use it for.
I did manage to find enough with the appropriate factory finished
edges for my country kitchen. There are polishes you can put on it to
bring back the shine but it doesn't last long. Bear in mind this is
outside. My granite bar top is doing great after a few years.


Outside. OK, maybe that has something to do with it. We've not started looking yet.


The quartz that has the factory finish seems to be doing OK outside.
it is just the stuff that has the liquid polishes on it I see in the
"how to" web sites that will not last. I have lost track of our
cabinet buddy so I really do not have anyone to ask how the pros do
it.

I have plenty of material to test with so I will do some torture
testing and see what holds up best to heat, scratches or anything else
you guys come up with. I love science projects. I know sharpie pen
comes right off of all of them because that is what I am using for
layout. A little lacquer thinner wipes it right off.

I just roughed in my piece of granite
This is what I got, not really square and some cuts on the bottom edge
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Granite%20from%20boneyard.jpg
Here I have cut off the bad edge, squared it up and roughed in the top
edge and corner radii.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/granite%20roughed%20in.jpg

I am about done with the 100 grit pad so tomorrow I will start the
polishing. That is the rewarding part because you actually see it
starting to shine up.


I wouldn't even think about trying to do it myself. I have two sink cutouts and a countertop
Jennaire cutout to worry about. Also, I'd want the edges rounded. No way I'd be tempted to mess with
it.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

[email protected] May 24th 16 09:48 PM

Nice Boating
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:29:39 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:
do it myself. I have two sink cutouts and a countertop
Jennaire cutout to worry about. Als
On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:49:40 -0400, wrote:


I wouldn't even think about trying to o, I'd want the edges rounded. No way I'd be tempted to mess with
it.


The stuff cuts pretty easily with a diamond wheel in a circular saw
and you can round off the corners with a cup wheel in a side grinder.
It is all in how much patience you have and how much attention you
have to detail. I got wild with one side on this piece so I will have
more work to do with the 100 pad because I have some rougher than
necessary spots. It is sort of like welding. I really should have
practiced a little before I started. You need to have the touch when
you are doing this with hand held tools. The rest actually came out
pretty nice.

I would not have started on this but someone gave me a bunch of
granite and I decided I would learn how to do it. It is actually
pretty rewarding when a piece comes out nice and the price is right.
EuroAsia in Miami has all of the diamond wheels and pads if you have
the tools to spin them up. I have about 2 hours in that "rough" and it
will be about 2 more hours to finish it up and set it.
You pay about $20-25 an hour for the finishing and installation over
the cost of the material, which is actually pretty cheap.


Keine Krausescheiße May 24th 16 10:18 PM

Nice Boating
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:48:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:29:39 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:
do it myself. I have two sink cutouts and a countertop
Jennaire cutout to worry about. Als
On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:49:40 -0400,
wrote:


I wouldn't even think about trying to o, I'd want the edges rounded. No way I'd be tempted to mess with
it.


The stuff cuts pretty easily with a diamond wheel in a circular saw
and you can round off the corners with a cup wheel in a side grinder.
It is all in how much patience you have and how much attention you
have to detail. I got wild with one side on this piece so I will have
more work to do with the 100 pad because I have some rougher than
necessary spots. It is sort of like welding. I really should have
practiced a little before I started. You need to have the touch when
you are doing this with hand held tools. The rest actually came out
pretty nice.

I would not have started on this but someone gave me a bunch of
granite and I decided I would learn how to do it. It is actually
pretty rewarding when a piece comes out nice and the price is right.
EuroAsia in Miami has all of the diamond wheels and pads if you have
the tools to spin them up. I have about 2 hours in that "rough" and it
will be about 2 more hours to finish it up and set it.
You pay about $20-25 an hour for the finishing and installation over
the cost of the material, which is actually pretty cheap.


Well, maybe it's just my turn to help the economy and job market! If someone gave me the stuff, that
would be a different story. But I don't see that happening. Oh well.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

[email protected] May 24th 16 10:36 PM

Nice Boating
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 17:18:47 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:

Well, maybe it's just my turn to help the economy and job market! If someone gave me the stuff, that
would be a different story. But I don't see that happening. Oh well.


It helps when you know construction people. The first batch I got came
from a "Chinese drywall" house. They broke a piece trying to take the
kitchen apart and decided they could never match it up so they got rid
of all of it. The pieces with cut outs in them can be pretty fragile.
Since I didn't want the cut out anyway, it was fine with me. That was
where my other bar top came from.



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