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Running north up the Florida coast today in really nice weather, might stay outside and run all night, otherwise we'll put into Port Canaveral.
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 10:44:25 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote: Running north up the Florida coast today in really nice weather, might stay outside and run all night, otherwise we'll put into Port Canaveral. http://tinyurl.com/waynebspottrack As long as the weather holds you should be OK Looking at the radar there is some stuff out there above the Bahamas but it seems to be moving east. I was really looking to see if we are going to get wet today. Hope to be out in a few minutes, as soon as Judy finishes her "weed patrol". I painted all of my light posts today (6) Have a safe trip. Are you heading up north now? |
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 10:44:25 -0700 (PDT),
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 15:20:09 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 5/21/2016 1:44 PM, wrote: Running north up the Florida coast today in really nice weather, might stay outside and run all night, otherwise we'll put into Port Canaveral. http://tinyurl.com/waynebspottrack If you pull in to port Canaveral, you can get a nice meal at Millikan's Reef. === Thanks for the info but we decided to run all night. Should be up around Georgia by morning. |
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On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 9:47:47 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
wrote: Running north up the Florida coast today in really nice weather, might stay outside and run all night, otherwise we'll put into Port Canaveral. http://tinyurl.com/waynebspottrack You passed it so who's sleeping while you continue your run? ==== Mrs B and I take turns standing watches. |
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 20:39:25 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote: On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 9:47:47 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote: wrote: Running north up the Florida coast today in really nice weather, might stay outside and run all night, otherwise we'll put into Port Canaveral. http://tinyurl.com/waynebspottrack You passed it so who's sleeping while you continue your run? ==== Mrs B and I take turns standing watches. Looks like you are making about 8.7 kts if my "back of a card" math is right ... but I am just a high school graduate. ;-) Looks like you spent the first night at Roland Martins and the second night on the hook in the St Lucie river. Not a lot of secrets when you have a tracker. |
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 21:49:57 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 21 May 2016 15:20:09 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 5/21/2016 1:44 PM, wrote: Running north up the Florida coast today in really nice weather, might stay outside and run all night, otherwise we'll put into Port Canaveral. http://tinyurl.com/waynebspottrack If you pull in to port Canaveral, you can get a nice meal at Millikan's Reef. === Thanks for the info but we decided to run all night. Should be up around Georgia by morning. If you get to Savannah, Wileys BBQ is fantastic. Son in law took me there. Can't wait to get back. 4700 U.S. 80, Savannah, GA 31410 http://wileyschampionshipbbq.com/ -- Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns! |
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On Sun, 22 May 2016 12:46:06 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2016 21:49:57 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2016 15:20:09 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 5/21/2016 1:44 PM, wrote: Running north up the Florida coast today in really nice weather, might stay outside and run all night, otherwise we'll put into Port Canaveral. http://tinyurl.com/waynebspottrack If you pull in to port Canaveral, you can get a nice meal at Millikan's Reef. === Thanks for the info but we decided to run all night. Should be up around Georgia by morning. If you get to Savannah, Wileys BBQ is fantastic. Son in law took me there. Can't wait to get back. 4700 U.S. 80, Savannah, GA 31410 http://wileyschampionshipbbq.com/ Looks like he ducked inside right near the Ga line and they are on the hook in Fancy Bluff Creek. Watch out for the submarines ;-) |
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On Sun, 22 May 2016 12:46:06 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2016 21:49:57 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2016 15:20:09 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 5/21/2016 1:44 PM, wrote: Running north up the Florida coast today in really nice weather, might stay outside and run all night, otherwise we'll put into Port Canaveral. http://tinyurl.com/waynebspottrack If you pull in to port Canaveral, you can get a nice meal at Millikan's Reef. === Thanks for the info but we decided to run all night. Should be up around Georgia by morning. If you get to Savannah, Wileys BBQ is fantastic. Son in law took me there. Can't wait to get back. 4700 U.S. 80, Savannah, GA 31410 http://wileyschampionshipbbq.com/ Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". |
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On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 11:27:24 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 22 May 2016 12:46:06 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2016 21:49:57 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2016 15:20:09 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 5/21/2016 1:44 PM, wrote: Running north up the Florida coast today in really nice weather, might stay outside and run all night, otherwise we'll put into Port Canaveral. http://tinyurl.com/waynebspottrack If you pull in to port Canaveral, you can get a nice meal at Millikan's Reef. === Thanks for the info but we decided to run all night. Should be up around Georgia by morning. If you get to Savannah, Wileys BBQ is fantastic. Son in law took me there. Can't wait to get back. 4700 U.S. 80, Savannah, GA 31410 http://wileyschampionshipbbq.com/ Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". If he makes Savannah then Hilton Head should be do-able as well. Plenty of good eats there as well, and less crime. Savannah can be a little "funky" at night. |
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On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400, wrote: Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". === Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much when the wind's blowing. As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly scenic. I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap I put on the new bar top. Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-) |
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On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400, wrote: Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". === Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much when the wind's blowing. As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly scenic. I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap I put on the new bar top. Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-) === No, not tonight. We eat well on the boat however. |
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On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:08:34 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: No, not tonight. We eat well on the boat however. You have been in the Gulf Stream for a few days now, I expect you should have some nice fish. Nothing like one that was swimming a few minutes before it hits the pan. That's fresh fish. Mars is looking good this month. I think this is it's closest approach for a while. It is about the brightest thing in the southern sky but the color makes it unmistakable. |
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On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:49:30 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:46:08 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:08:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: No, not tonight. We eat well on the boat however. You have been in the Gulf Stream for a few days now, I expect you should have some nice fish. Nothing like one that was swimming a few minutes before it hits the pan. That's fresh fish. Mars is looking good this month. I think this is it's closest approach for a while. It is about the brightest thing in the southern sky but the color makes it unmistakable. === We have sometimes run the Gulf Stream all the way from Ft Pierce to Charleston. You get a nice boost in speed, save quite a few miles, all of which saves a bunch of fuel. You're underway for two straight nights however and that gets tiring with just the two of us standing watches. As it turned out with our stabilizer issue, it's fortunate that we didn't do that anyway. Running the stream exposes you to some fairly gnarly sea conditions even in relatively calm weather. Port and starboard watches are always tough. We only had 2 duty sections on the smaller CG cutters but I was not standing deck watches. They pretty much left us cannon cockers alone. Later on the reserve cruises, everyone stood deck watches if they were not snipes so I got some of that 0000-0600 helm time. Three section is easier, you need another mate. |
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On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400, wrote: Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". === Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much when the wind's blowing. As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly scenic. I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap I put on the new bar top. Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-) Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like the quartz over the granite for countertops. Why are you so down on quartz? -- Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns! |
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Keine Krausescheiße wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400, wrote: Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". === Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much when the wind's blowing. As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly scenic. I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap I put on the new bar top. Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-) Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like the quartz over the granite for countertops. Why are you so down on quartz? -- Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns! Most I have looked at, just looks boring. |
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On 5/24/2016 7:44 AM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400, wrote: Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". === Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much when the wind's blowing. As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly scenic. I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap I put on the new bar top. Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-) Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like the quartz over the granite for countertops. Why are you so down on quartz? -- Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns! We chose granite for our new house. It's prettier. Although seams in quartz will be less noticable. Quartz has a lot of resin in it so I'd be wary of setting a hot pan off the stove on it. Side benefit to granite is you can thaw a 1" steak on it in about 30 minutes. Quartz supposedly doesn't need to be sealed, although I never sealed the granite in our old house and it looked like new the day we moved out. Our transitory home(RV)has Corion and it scratches easily. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:44:08 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400, wrote: Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". === Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much when the wind's blowing. As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly scenic. I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap I put on the new bar top. Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-) Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like the quartz over the granite for countertops. Why are you so down on quartz? It is just miserable to work, compared to granite. I assume the pros have a trick I can't find. I believe they actually seal it instead of polishing it. When I use the diamond pads I got for granite, I can get a smooth dull finish but it never actually polishes out. I have a bunch of quartz and I am not sure what I am going to use it for. I did manage to find enough with the appropriate factory finished edges for my country kitchen. There are polishes you can put on it to bring back the shine but it doesn't last long. Bear in mind this is outside. My granite bar top is doing great after a few years. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:45:14 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 5/24/2016 7:44 AM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400, wrote: Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". === Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much when the wind's blowing. As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly scenic. I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap I put on the new bar top. Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-) Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like the quartz over the granite for countertops. Why are you so down on quartz? -- Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns! We chose granite for our new house. It's prettier. Although seams in quartz will be less noticable. Quartz has a lot of resin in it so I'd be wary of setting a hot pan off the stove on it. Side benefit to granite is you can thaw a 1" steak on it in about 30 minutes. Quartz supposedly doesn't need to be sealed, although I never sealed the granite in our old house and it looked like new the day we moved out. Our transitory home(RV)has Corion and it scratches easily. "Quartz" is really just an aggregate suspended in a resin base with some color added. When you cut it, you smell a "fiberglass" type plastic smell. I got about 30' of material, 25" wide when they remodeled the club house. It had an additional 6" trough on the back side that was just glued on. It is pretty tough glue. It was good that they finished the edge on that side tho. For a DIY guy like me, granite is a lot easier material to work with. You just need to buy some diamond tools ... but I like tools. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:42:32 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:44:08 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400, wrote: Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". === Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much when the wind's blowing. As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly scenic. I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap I put on the new bar top. Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-) Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like the quartz over the granite for countertops. Why are you so down on quartz? It is just miserable to work, compared to granite. I assume the pros have a trick I can't find. I believe they actually seal it instead of polishing it. When I use the diamond pads I got for granite, I can get a smooth dull finish but it never actually polishes out. I have a bunch of quartz and I am not sure what I am going to use it for. I did manage to find enough with the appropriate factory finished edges for my country kitchen. There are polishes you can put on it to bring back the shine but it doesn't last long. Bear in mind this is outside. My granite bar top is doing great after a few years. Outside. OK, maybe that has something to do with it. We've not started looking yet. -- Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns! |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:37:53 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:42:32 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:44:08 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400, wrote: Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". === Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much when the wind's blowing. As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly scenic. I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap I put on the new bar top. Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-) Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like the quartz over the granite for countertops. Why are you so down on quartz? It is just miserable to work, compared to granite. I assume the pros have a trick I can't find. I believe they actually seal it instead of polishing it. When I use the diamond pads I got for granite, I can get a smooth dull finish but it never actually polishes out. I have a bunch of quartz and I am not sure what I am going to use it for. I did manage to find enough with the appropriate factory finished edges for my country kitchen. There are polishes you can put on it to bring back the shine but it doesn't last long. Bear in mind this is outside. My granite bar top is doing great after a few years. Outside. OK, maybe that has something to do with it. We've not started looking yet. The quartz that has the factory finish seems to be doing OK outside. it is just the stuff that has the liquid polishes on it I see in the "how to" web sites that will not last. I have lost track of our cabinet buddy so I really do not have anyone to ask how the pros do it. I have plenty of material to test with so I will do some torture testing and see what holds up best to heat, scratches or anything else you guys come up with. I love science projects. I know sharpie pen comes right off of all of them because that is what I am using for layout. A little lacquer thinner wipes it right off. I just roughed in my piece of granite This is what I got, not really square and some cuts on the bottom edge http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Granite%20from%20boneyard.jpg Here I have cut off the bad edge, squared it up and roughed in the top edge and corner radii. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/granite%20roughed%20in.jpg I am about done with the 100 grit pad so tomorrow I will start the polishing. That is the rewarding part because you actually see it starting to shine up. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:49:40 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:37:53 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:42:32 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:44:08 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:55:02 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:27:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:27:02 -0400, wrote: Wayne is on the move again. He should be in Savanna by supper time. Passing north of Jekyll Island right now heading "outside". === Sorry but you're just not keeping up. We ducked back inside late in the afternoon to position ourselves for tomorrow. We're having a problem with the hydraulic stabilizer system so I'm going to stop at a shipyard south of Savanna to see if they can work on it. We can run outside without stabilizers when it's calm like today but not so much when the wind's blowing. As an FYI, the Georgia coast, ICW and barrier islands are incredibly scenic. I have been on the road. I was on (Yuk) Del Prado today, going up to buy an oven for my country kitchen project on the lanai and I also got lucky and scored a piece of granite to replace that nasty quartz crap I put on the new bar top. Last time I looked you were just starting to make the turn to go inside north of St Catherines but I see you are up at the mouth of Kilkenny creek now. No BBQ for you I guess ;-) Gosh, what a propitious moment. We have Wilsonart Solid Surface Veneer in our kitchen that is past the 25 year mark and has a couple cracks. Thinking of replacing it. Consumer Reports seems to like the quartz over the granite for countertops. Why are you so down on quartz? It is just miserable to work, compared to granite. I assume the pros have a trick I can't find. I believe they actually seal it instead of polishing it. When I use the diamond pads I got for granite, I can get a smooth dull finish but it never actually polishes out. I have a bunch of quartz and I am not sure what I am going to use it for. I did manage to find enough with the appropriate factory finished edges for my country kitchen. There are polishes you can put on it to bring back the shine but it doesn't last long. Bear in mind this is outside. My granite bar top is doing great after a few years. Outside. OK, maybe that has something to do with it. We've not started looking yet. The quartz that has the factory finish seems to be doing OK outside. it is just the stuff that has the liquid polishes on it I see in the "how to" web sites that will not last. I have lost track of our cabinet buddy so I really do not have anyone to ask how the pros do it. I have plenty of material to test with so I will do some torture testing and see what holds up best to heat, scratches or anything else you guys come up with. I love science projects. I know sharpie pen comes right off of all of them because that is what I am using for layout. A little lacquer thinner wipes it right off. I just roughed in my piece of granite This is what I got, not really square and some cuts on the bottom edge http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Granite%20from%20boneyard.jpg Here I have cut off the bad edge, squared it up and roughed in the top edge and corner radii. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/granite%20roughed%20in.jpg I am about done with the 100 grit pad so tomorrow I will start the polishing. That is the rewarding part because you actually see it starting to shine up. I wouldn't even think about trying to do it myself. I have two sink cutouts and a countertop Jennaire cutout to worry about. Also, I'd want the edges rounded. No way I'd be tempted to mess with it. -- Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns! |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:29:39 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote: do it myself. I have two sink cutouts and a countertop Jennaire cutout to worry about. Als On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:49:40 -0400, wrote: I wouldn't even think about trying to o, I'd want the edges rounded. No way I'd be tempted to mess with it. The stuff cuts pretty easily with a diamond wheel in a circular saw and you can round off the corners with a cup wheel in a side grinder. It is all in how much patience you have and how much attention you have to detail. I got wild with one side on this piece so I will have more work to do with the 100 pad because I have some rougher than necessary spots. It is sort of like welding. I really should have practiced a little before I started. You need to have the touch when you are doing this with hand held tools. The rest actually came out pretty nice. I would not have started on this but someone gave me a bunch of granite and I decided I would learn how to do it. It is actually pretty rewarding when a piece comes out nice and the price is right. EuroAsia in Miami has all of the diamond wheels and pads if you have the tools to spin them up. I have about 2 hours in that "rough" and it will be about 2 more hours to finish it up and set it. You pay about $20-25 an hour for the finishing and installation over the cost of the material, which is actually pretty cheap. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:48:02 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:29:39 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße wrote: do it myself. I have two sink cutouts and a countertop Jennaire cutout to worry about. Als On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:49:40 -0400, wrote: I wouldn't even think about trying to o, I'd want the edges rounded. No way I'd be tempted to mess with it. The stuff cuts pretty easily with a diamond wheel in a circular saw and you can round off the corners with a cup wheel in a side grinder. It is all in how much patience you have and how much attention you have to detail. I got wild with one side on this piece so I will have more work to do with the 100 pad because I have some rougher than necessary spots. It is sort of like welding. I really should have practiced a little before I started. You need to have the touch when you are doing this with hand held tools. The rest actually came out pretty nice. I would not have started on this but someone gave me a bunch of granite and I decided I would learn how to do it. It is actually pretty rewarding when a piece comes out nice and the price is right. EuroAsia in Miami has all of the diamond wheels and pads if you have the tools to spin them up. I have about 2 hours in that "rough" and it will be about 2 more hours to finish it up and set it. You pay about $20-25 an hour for the finishing and installation over the cost of the material, which is actually pretty cheap. Well, maybe it's just my turn to help the economy and job market! If someone gave me the stuff, that would be a different story. But I don't see that happening. Oh well. -- Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns! |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 17:18:47 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote: Well, maybe it's just my turn to help the economy and job market! If someone gave me the stuff, that would be a different story. But I don't see that happening. Oh well. It helps when you know construction people. The first batch I got came from a "Chinese drywall" house. They broke a piece trying to take the kitchen apart and decided they could never match it up so they got rid of all of it. The pieces with cut outs in them can be pretty fragile. Since I didn't want the cut out anyway, it was fine with me. That was where my other bar top came from. |
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It helps when you know construction people. The first batch I got came from a "Chinese drywall" house. They broke a piece trying to take the kitchen apart and decided they could never match it up so they got rid of all of it. The pieces with cut outs in them can be pretty fragile. Since I didn't want the cut out anyway, it was fine with me. That was where my other bar top came from. ......., The "Chinese drywall". Oh man, a mixture of formaldehyde and chalk What ever was the outcome of all that anyhow? |
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On Thu, 26 May 2016 10:06:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: It helps when you know construction people. The first batch I got came from a "Chinese drywall" house. They broke a piece trying to take the kitchen apart and decided they could never match it up so they got rid of all of it. The pieces with cut outs in them can be pretty fragile. Since I didn't want the cut out anyway, it was fine with me. That was where my other bar top came from. ......, The "Chinese drywall". Oh man, a mixture of formaldehyde and chalk What ever was the outcome of all that anyhow? There was a little bit of restitution to be had out there if you were willing to pursue it and could actually find an American company that would accept responsibility but most of the houses were just dumped in the housing crash for a fraction of what they were worth. One of my buddies specialized in fixing them and did quite well but it involved taking the house down to the FEPAC (predrywall) treating the block walls and rebuilding it from there. I think some of the problems were a bit over hyped. The sulfides did attack copper and brass. Other metals were pretty much unaffected. The level of damage was also pretty superficial and a lot of stuff was replaced that didn't need it. The sulfur in our well water is as bad or worse. You did need to get rid of the drywall. I am not sure how long it would out gas sulfur compounds but I was in a 5 year old drywall house that had been opened up for over a month and it still smelled bad in there. Once he ripped out every speck of that drywall, sealed the block and went back fresh, it was fine. Considering you could buy a 2000 sq/ft house for about $20k and spend another $25-50k depending on how you rebuilt it, there was plenty of money to be made there. He went back on the high end of that and got over $250k, even during the recession. These days, I doubt there is a "drywall house" left and the ones he rebuilt are going for more like $400k. |
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On Thu, 26 May 2016 10:06:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: The "Chinese drywall". Oh man, a mixture of formaldehyde and chalk That wasn't really the problem. They were using pyrites, probably from coal production, in the aggregate and it had a high sulfur content. This would outgas sulfur compounds that burn your eyes and corrode copper. I think most of it in this country came through Tampa and Miami with a smaller amount in New Orleans. That is why Florida was ground zero for this problem. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Chinese%20D...of%20cases.jpg My wife's company, Centex, had their own US based drywall company (Eagle) so they never had the problem. |
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On Thu, 26 May 2016 10:06:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: It helps when you know construction people. The first batch I got came from a "Chinese drywall" house. They broke a piece trying to take the kitchen apart and decided they could never match it up so they got rid of all of it. The pieces with cut outs in them can be pretty fragile. Since I didn't want the cut out anyway, it was fine with me. That was where my other bar top came from. ......, The "Chinese drywall". Oh man, a mixture of formaldehyde and chalk What ever was the outcome of all that anyhow? === It was a financial disaster for all concerned. It turned out that there was a fair amount of sulphur in the mix also. Combined with Florida humidity it was a recipe for making sulphuric acid which ate everything it touched, especially copper wiring and human respiratory systems. Savvy buyers eventually learned the trick of pulling a few electrical cover plates and checking for green copper wires. That was a sure sign of Chinese drywall. To remediate, the house had to be gutted down to the studs, rewired and rebuilt - huge expense. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 00:09:00 -0400, wrote:
Three section is easier, you need another mate. === Aye. Unfortunately every time I've found someone suitable my wife has rejected her. |
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On Thu, 26 May 2016 14:32:32 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2016 10:06:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: It helps when you know construction people. The first batch I got came from a "Chinese drywall" house. They broke a piece trying to take the kitchen apart and decided they could never match it up so they got rid of all of it. The pieces with cut outs in them can be pretty fragile. Since I didn't want the cut out anyway, it was fine with me. That was where my other bar top came from. ......, The "Chinese drywall". Oh man, a mixture of formaldehyde and chalk What ever was the outcome of all that anyhow? === It was a financial disaster for all concerned. It turned out that there was a fair amount of sulphur in the mix also. Combined with Florida humidity it was a recipe for making sulphuric acid which ate everything it touched, especially copper wiring and human respiratory systems. Savvy buyers eventually learned the trick of pulling a few electrical cover plates and checking for green copper wires. That was a sure sign of Chinese drywall. To remediate, the house had to be gutted down to the studs, rewired and rebuilt - huge expense. Black copper and brass, not green. I have a lot of pictures of the house where my granite came from including opened up electrical devices and stripped wire. The damage is really pretty superficial but ugly, http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Chinese%20Drywall/ Use your back button to get back to the index. |
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On Thu, 26 May 2016 14:36:43 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2016 00:09:00 -0400, wrote: Three section is easier, you need another mate. === Aye. Unfortunately every time I've found someone suitable my wife has rejected her. I was having the same problem filling my missing "6". I am 1946, wife is 1956 and daughter is 1976. I said we should get a housekeeper born in 66 to fill in the gap but she said no. That was a long time ago, now I might skip 66 and 86 and go right for 1996. I bet it is still no. |
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