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On 5/21/2016 9:54 PM, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
" Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr."

Only a small fraction of my boating is in the harbour. That's why I
have a trailer boat. We have two large bays a short distance southwest
of the city plus numerous lakes, a few rivers and numerous coastal areas.


Yet you log 20 hours, or so, per year. What a waste.
He should sell his car-trailer-boat combo and get one of those old army
ducks if he likes to travel hither and yon to find water to float in. I
don't know why all little boats under 20' aren't fitted with wheels at
the least. The Amphicar was a great idea. I wonder why the concept
wasn't expanded upon. Harry could have used his family fortune to
develop a powered wheeled boat for consumer use instead of ****ing it
away on his personal toys. He could have been rich and Donnie could have
been happy with something that meets all of his vehicular needs.
Alas, I guess it wasn't meant to be. :-)

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On 5/21/2016 9:50 PM, Alex wrote:
Califbill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"One can't venture far out into the "big world" in a little boat.
Which
begs the question, How much boat do you need to venture into the big
world, safely and comfortably."


Depends on the sailor....a girlieman like you and some of your ilk in
here shouldn't venture outside the harbour approaches unless you're
aboard an ocean liner.......for me...a 17.5 foot runabout should
be fine.

Sounds like a death wish.


I take my 18' bass boat 6 miles offshore to the reef on good days. I can
get back in less than 15 minutes if the horizon looks dark.

Depends on the area. Here off San Francisco, the winds come up lat
morning
in the summer, and goes from flat calm to swells, with 3' wind waves
in 30
minutes. Small boat, makes for a large Ickes factor. Did that in a 14'
boat a lt of years ago. Not now. Run in before it gets nasty


The Pacific is well known to be rougher than the Atlantic. You don't
see a lot of surfing here for that reason!

I have a buddy in the restaurant business who, grew up in Southern
California. Surfing seemed to be his #1 passion in those days.

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On Sun, 22 May 2016 06:55:44 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 5/21/2016 9:54 PM, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
" Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr."

Only a small fraction of my boating is in the harbour. That's why I
have a trailer boat. We have two large bays a short distance southwest
of the city plus numerous lakes, a few rivers and numerous coastal areas.


Yet you log 20 hours, or so, per year. What a waste.
He should sell his car-trailer-boat combo and get one of those old army
ducks if he likes to travel hither and yon to find water to float in. I
don't know why all little boats under 20' aren't fitted with wheels at
the least. The Amphicar was a great idea. I wonder why the concept
wasn't expanded upon. Harry could have used his family fortune to
develop a powered wheeled boat for consumer use instead of ****ing it
away on his personal toys. He could have been rich and Donnie could have
been happy with something that meets all of his vehicular needs.
Alas, I guess it wasn't meant to be. :-)

The problem with most of these combo vehicles is they suck at both
tasks. One of my IBM buddies knew the guy who ran the Naples "duck".
It was a maintenance nightmare. These things were combat vehicles that
were designed to last a few days in a war before they were blown up.
Day in and day out, splashing in salt water several times a day takes
a toll. They are lousy trucks and lousy boats ... but they do both.
The same was true of the Amphicar and all of those car/airplane deals.

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On Fri, 20 May 2016 15:20:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 20 May 2016 10:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 12:42:40 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
"
I also questioned whether a 311' AVP was enough boat for the North
Atlantic. We had blue water coming over the 02 deck and the screws
were coming out of the water on every wave for days at a time. "

My dad told me about stuff like that while on a troop transport during WWII

Same here. My dad was in the CB's in WWII. He told stories about a couple of bad storms and taking on water. Also chipping ice off the deck up in Alaska.

I used to have his foul weather jacket. Heavy canvas-like outer shell with an itchy wool liner. It had to be COLD to wear that thing. Not many chances in SC.

I just lost my old foul weather jacket. The zipper finally went out
after 50 years and it wasn't a virgin when I got it (maybe WWII).
That was my go to coat when it was nasty out.

Should have taken it to a Korean dry cleaners. They can put new zippers in for about $20 or so.
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 01:38:21 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 20 May 2016 21:07:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2016 10:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 12:42:40 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
"
I also questioned whether a 311' AVP was enough boat for the North
Atlantic. We had blue water coming over the 02 deck and the screws
were coming out of the water on every wave for days at a time. "

My dad told me about stuff like that while on a troop transport during WWII
Same here. My dad was in the CB's in WWII. He told stories about a couple of bad storms and taking on water. Also chipping ice off the deck up in Alaska.

I used to have his foul weather jacket. Heavy canvas-like outer shell with an itchy wool liner. It had to be COLD to wear that thing. Not many chances in SC.
I just lost my old foul weather jacket. The zipper finally went out
after 50 years and it wasn't a virgin when I got it (maybe WWII).
That was my go to coat when it was nasty out.

Get it repaired/replaced at a local tailor!

It was going to be pretty expensive and the coat was falling apart
anyway.

Korean dry cleaners. Do it.
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On Thu, 19 May 2016 08:56:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"Sadly they haven't found a way to exclude you from instigating and
stirring up ****, as it were."


Yes we have.....ban those with no interest in boating to recipe newsgroups.
Win win situation for everyone.

Gosh Don, of the folks you're castigating, who has not expressed an interest in the boat you're
buying and tried to offer you some advice?
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 05:59:09 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
" Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr. "

Only a small fraction of my boating is in the harbour. That's why I have a trailer boat. We have two large bays a short distance southwest of the city plus numerous lakes, a few rivers and numerous coastal areas.

As one who is greatly interested in your safety while boating, I'd suggest keeping the Bayliner in
one of those numerous lakes and slow moving rivers.

Do the laws up there permit the dumping of sewage in lakes and rivers as well as in harbors?
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 21:50:07 -0400, Alex wrote:

Califbill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"One can't venture far out into the "big world" in a little boat. Which
begs the question, How much boat do you need to venture into the big
world, safely and comfortably."


Depends on the sailor....a girlieman like you and some of your ilk in
here shouldn't venture outside the harbour approaches unless you're
aboard an ocean liner.......for me...a 17.5 foot runabout should be fine.

Sounds like a death wish.


I take my 18' bass boat 6 miles offshore to the reef on good days. I can
get back in less than 15 minutes if the horizon looks dark.

Depends on the area. Here off San Francisco, the winds come up lat morning
in the summer, and goes from flat calm to swells, with 3' wind waves in 30
minutes. Small boat, makes for a large Ickes factor. Did that in a 14'
boat a lt of years ago. Not now. Run in before it gets nasty


The Pacific is well known to be rougher than the Atlantic. You don't
see a lot of surfing here for that reason!

Having been stationed in San Pedro, CA, Tampa, Fl, and Norfolk, VA, I can vouch for that. As far as
rough water goes, the Pacific wins the prize.
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On Sun, 22 May 2016 12:19:48 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2016 01:38:21 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 20 May 2016 21:07:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2016 10:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 12:42:40 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
"
I also questioned whether a 311' AVP was enough boat for the North
Atlantic. We had blue water coming over the 02 deck and the screws
were coming out of the water on every wave for days at a time. "

My dad told me about stuff like that while on a troop transport during WWII
Same here. My dad was in the CB's in WWII. He told stories about a couple of bad storms and taking on water. Also chipping ice off the deck up in Alaska.

I used to have his foul weather jacket. Heavy canvas-like outer shell with an itchy wool liner. It had to be COLD to wear that thing. Not many chances in SC.
I just lost my old foul weather jacket. The zipper finally went out
after 50 years and it wasn't a virgin when I got it (maybe WWII).
That was my go to coat when it was nasty out.

Get it repaired/replaced at a local tailor!

It was going to be pretty expensive and the coat was falling apart
anyway.

Korean dry cleaners. Do it.

Alas we do not have any "Korean" dry cleaners here. In fact I am not
even sure where I would find a dry cleaner these days. I have not been
to one in 20 years.

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On Sun, 22 May 2016 13:01:25 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 22 May 2016 12:19:48 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2016 01:38:21 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 20 May 2016 21:07:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2016 10:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 12:42:40 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
"
I also questioned whether a 311' AVP was enough boat for the North
Atlantic. We had blue water coming over the 02 deck and the screws
were coming out of the water on every wave for days at a time. "

My dad told me about stuff like that while on a troop transport during WWII
Same here. My dad was in the CB's in WWII. He told stories about a couple of bad storms and taking on water. Also chipping ice off the deck up in Alaska.

I used to have his foul weather jacket. Heavy canvas-like outer shell with an itchy wool liner. It had to be COLD to wear that thing. Not many chances in SC.
I just lost my old foul weather jacket. The zipper finally went out
after 50 years and it wasn't a virgin when I got it (maybe WWII).
That was my go to coat when it was nasty out.

Get it repaired/replaced at a local tailor!

It was going to be pretty expensive and the coat was falling apart
anyway.

Korean dry cleaners. Do it.

Alas we do not have any "Korean" dry cleaners here. In fact I am not
even sure where I would find a dry cleaner these days. I have not been
to one in 20 years.

Most of the cleaners in this neck of the woods are run by Koreans. Just go in and say, "Anyung
haseyo" and see if they smile. If so, they're Korean. If they pull out a weapon they may be
Japanese.
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