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Alex wrote:
Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
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"One can't venture far out into the "big world" in a little boat. Which
begs the question, How much boat do you need to venture into the big
world, safely and comfortably."


Depends on the sailor....a girlieman like you and some of your ilk in
here shouldn't venture outside the harbour approaches unless you're
aboard an ocean liner.......for me...a 17.5 foot runabout should be fine.

Sounds like a death wish.



I take my 18' bass boat 6 miles offshore to the reef on good days. I can
get back in less than 15 minutes if the horizon looks dark.


Depends on the area. Here off San Francisco, the winds come up lat morning
in the summer, and goes from flat calm to swells, with 3' wind waves in 30
minutes. Small boat, makes for a large Ickes factor. Did that in a 14'
boat a lt of years ago. Not now. Run in before it gets nasty

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On Fri, 20 May 2016 15:11:41 -0500, Califbill
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wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:42:38 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

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I also questioned whether a 311' AVP was enough boat for the North
Atlantic. We had blue water coming over the 02 deck and the screws
were coming out of the water on every wave for days at a time. "

My dad told me about stuff like that while on a troop transport during WWII
The north Atlantic is actually a fascinating place. Once you get over
the bouncing around part it is really beautiful. The water color is
spectacular. The Atlantic is very blue anyway but when the water is
that cold, it is almost an electric blue. When you put the rollers on
top of that that are stark white it is mesmerizing.



I am not sure it is just the cold temps. When I do long range tuna trips,
when you are out a 100 miles plus, and the temps are 62 or so, the water is
almost purple blue as look in to the water. Maybe lack of lots of
plankton, or different types.

Yup that is the thing I am talking about but with 10 foot waves
capping all over.

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On Fri, 20 May 2016 21:05:16 -0400, Alex wrote:

I take my 18' bass boat 6 miles offshore to the reef on good days. I can
get back in less than 15 minutes if the horizon looks dark.

Yup folks in Florida will poke out into the Atlantic pretty far on a
calm day and go way out in the Gulf. I had my pontoon out beyond
American (Shoal) Light in the Keys. Great trolling for dolphin and
bill fish.

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On Fri, 20 May 2016 21:07:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2016 10:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 12:42:40 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
"
I also questioned whether a 311' AVP was enough boat for the North
Atlantic. We had blue water coming over the 02 deck and the screws
were coming out of the water on every wave for days at a time. "

My dad told me about stuff like that while on a troop transport during WWII
Same here. My dad was in the CB's in WWII. He told stories about a couple of bad storms and taking on water. Also chipping ice off the deck up in Alaska.

I used to have his foul weather jacket. Heavy canvas-like outer shell with an itchy wool liner. It had to be COLD to wear that thing. Not many chances in SC.
I just lost my old foul weather jacket. The zipper finally went out
after 50 years and it wasn't a virgin when I got it (maybe WWII).
That was my go to coat when it was nasty out.

Get it repaired/replaced at a local tailor!

It was going to be pretty expensive and the coat was falling apart
anyway.

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On Fri, 20 May 2016 23:34:59 -0500, Califbill
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Alex wrote:

I take my 18' bass boat 6 miles offshore to the reef on good days. I can
get back in less than 15 minutes if the horizon looks dark.


Depends on the area. Here off San Francisco, the winds come up lat morning
in the summer, and goes from flat calm to swells, with 3' wind waves in 30
minutes. Small boat, makes for a large Ickes factor. Did that in a 14'
boat a lt of years ago. Not now. Run in before it gets nasty

That is why I like tropical weather. If you know what to look for, you
can see this stuff building and usually when you are watching the
trends, you know about when you need to start watching out for it.
It is really all about where the wind is going.
Right now our basic pattern is the Atlantic sea breeze crashing into
the Gulf sea breeze down the spine of Florida so the weather is pretty
much all inland. If that sea breeze falls off from the Gulf it will
come back over us at night. We are seeing the last of the northern
fronts that make it down this far this month. Later in the summer,
none of that jet stream weather will make it down here., Our weather
is local or it comes off the coast of Africa moving East to West (the
opposite of the jet stream)

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On 5/20/2016 8:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
KalifSwill guzzles....

"Sounds like a death wish."

Say what!
I'm not the one throwing myself off roofs and landing on my head.
It's always safety first.


Swill? Dumb****. Lots of people get over their heads and in serious
trouble in small boats, in big water. Safety first? Maybe you just do not
do anything hard around the house. I have had some serious moments in my
14' aluminum skiff years ago, when winds came up. And even in the family
23' dual outboard, getting caught in a fast cross wind. Listed the boat
up, so one motor came out of the water. That was in a calm area near the
Berkeley pier, and the wind was coming from a levee about 2' above the calm
seas. I have a 21' deep sided boat, and still watch the weather. We get a
south wind, and the area outside the Golden Gate gets huge seas. As there
are shallows north and south of the channel under the gate, where the sand
and dirt are piled up.

Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr.

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Justan Olphart
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" Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr. "

Only a small fraction of my boating is in the harbour. That's why I have a trailer boat. We have two large bays a short distance southwest of the city plus numerous lakes, a few rivers and numerous coastal areas.

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Califbill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"One can't venture far out into the "big world" in a little boat. Which
begs the question, How much boat do you need to venture into the big
world, safely and comfortably."


Depends on the sailor....a girlieman like you and some of your ilk in
here shouldn't venture outside the harbour approaches unless you're
aboard an ocean liner.......for me...a 17.5 foot runabout should be fine.

Sounds like a death wish.


I take my 18' bass boat 6 miles offshore to the reef on good days. I can
get back in less than 15 minutes if the horizon looks dark.

Depends on the area. Here off San Francisco, the winds come up lat morning
in the summer, and goes from flat calm to swells, with 3' wind waves in 30
minutes. Small boat, makes for a large Ickes factor. Did that in a 14'
boat a lt of years ago. Not now. Run in before it gets nasty


The Pacific is well known to be rougher than the Atlantic. You don't
see a lot of surfing here for that reason!

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True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
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" Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr."

Only a small fraction of my boating is in the harbour. That's why I have a trailer boat. We have two large bays a short distance southwest of the city plus numerous lakes, a few rivers and numerous coastal areas.


Yet you log 20 hours, or so, per year. What a waste.