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On Tue, 03 May 2016 23:26:55 -0500, Califbill wrote:

True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"I don't see where an I/O drive on a trailerboat that spends its
"offtime" on a trailer in a driveway would be problematical. I wouldn't
keep an I/O boat out on a mooring or in a wet dock, but that isn't what
you are going to do.

I wouldn't take any advice on boats that Herring offers as valuable."


Yup...drysail is the term we use.
Out of the almost 8000 hours in a year, my boat might average 25 in the
water. (if we really like this new boat, that might be a bit higher) In
four years the Legend didn't spend one night in the water.


With only 25 hours of use, I would look at renting a nice boat when I
wanted on the water.

We did that last year. Rented a boat on four of our trips for the day. Cost a total of about $1500,
usually split 4-6 ways. Much, much cheaper than buying, and still got about 25 hours use out of
them. But, if I lived on a lake or bay, I'd get another. Probably a Key West. Fell in 'like' with
that boat.
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On 5/4/2016 6:43 AM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 03 May 2016 23:26:55 -0500, Califbill wrote:

True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"I don't see where an I/O drive on a trailerboat that spends its
"offtime" on a trailer in a driveway would be problematical. I wouldn't
keep an I/O boat out on a mooring or in a wet dock, but that isn't what
you are going to do.

I wouldn't take any advice on boats that Herring offers as valuable."


Yup...drysail is the term we use.
Out of the almost 8000 hours in a year, my boat might average 25 in the
water. (if we really like this new boat, that might be a bit higher) In
four years the Legend didn't spend one night in the water.


With only 25 hours of use, I would look at renting a nice boat when I
wanted on the water.

We did that last year. Rented a boat on four of our trips for the day. Cost a total of about $1500,
usually split 4-6 ways. Much, much cheaper than buying, and still got about 25 hours use out of
them. But, if I lived on a lake or bay, I'd get another. Probably a Key West. Fell in 'like' with
that boat.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

Yup . It doesn't make sense for a city boy to own something that he can
rent for much less out of pocket. Plus, he doesn't have the monthly
payments, storage, maintenance, insurance, depreciation, stale fuel,
cost of a motorized dolly wheel, and other worries.

Tough choice to make
 

Renting a boat isn't an option up here.
Guess with the short season and limited market it just doesn't make business sense.

Tough choice to make
 

On 5/4/2016 8:40 AM, True North wrote:
Renting a boat isn't an option up here.
Guess with the short season and limited market it just doesn't make business sense.

Substitute owning for renting and reread your own statement.

Tough choice to make
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/3/16 2:42 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2016 14:30:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/3/16 2:14 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:57:59 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Keyser Söze says
"You just never stop being the flaming asshole, do you? ..."


The John is an amusing fellow

He can blather on endlessly about motorbikes, baking and cooking,
golf and so called camping, but I should keep quiet about what to
me is a major boat purchase.
He must have been quite the leader in the 'merican army.

I asked why you make an issue of the various considerations, but
don't want input on them.

No one suggested you 'keep quiet', unless you'd rather have no
response. Then you should 'keep
quiet'.
--

Why not give it a rest, SnarlyJohn?



Whatsa matter, Krause? Don can't answer for himself?

He's the one talking about how tough to make his choice was. I would
have been glad if someone had
steered me away from a stern drive when I bought the Pro Line for use
in the bay. I'll never make
that mistake again.
--



Another perfect example of your snarliness, Johnny. Why not give it a
rest?


Do you actually read posts or do you just rely on canned responses?

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True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"I don't see where an I/O drive on a trailerboat that spends its
"offtime" on a trailer in a driveway would be problematical. I wouldn't
keep an I/O boat out on a mooring or in a wet dock, but that isn't what
you are going to do.

I wouldn't take any advice on boats that Herring offers as valuable."


Yup...drysail is the term we use.
Out of the almost 8000 hours in a year, my boat might average 25 in the water. (if we really like this new boat, that might be a bit higher) In four years the Legend didn't spend one night in the water.

25 hours a year? RENT a boat or join a club. Buying a boat for 25
hours a year is insane. I use mine 25 hours in a holiday weekend.

Tough choice to make
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/3/16 5:52 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"I don't see where an I/O drive on a trailerboat that spends its
"offtime" on a trailer in a driveway would be problematical. I wouldn't
keep an I/O boat out on a mooring or in a wet dock, but that isn't what
you are going to do.

I wouldn't take any advice on boats that Herring offers as valuable."


Yup...drysail is the term we use.
Out of the almost 8000 hours in a year, my boat might average 25 in
the water. (if we really like this new boat, that might be a bit
higher) In four years the Legend didn't spend one night in the water.

Just flush out the motor and lower unit after use, keep everything
greased and oiled, and wash the salt off the boat and trailer and
axles and you'll be fine.



He'll spend 50 hours a year doing that for 25 on the water. That's dumb
on any level.

Tough choice to make
 

True North wrote:
Say what?
What 185HP?

OK. I forgot you were looking at the small motor. 135HP in an I/O is
equal to about a 95HP outboard in performance.

When you speak to people do you actually say "say what"?

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Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/4/2016 8:40 AM, True North wrote:
Renting a boat isn't an option up here.
Guess with the short season and limited market it just doesn't make business sense.

Substitute owning for renting and reread your own statement.


See f there is a shard ownership co operative.

Tough choice to make
 

On Tue, 3 May 2016 04:59:46 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Johnny...you seem to work overtime at being offended. Someone down there must like stern drives or there wouldn't be so many available...from a number of manufacturers.

If you are on a trailer, most of the problems with a stern drive are
mitigated. Just be sure to do the maintenance. They are harder to work
on tho if you are looking at anything that is not right on top.

Tough choice to make
 

On Tue, 3 May 2016 18:00:46 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/3/16 5:52 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"I don't see where an I/O drive on a trailerboat that spends its
"offtime" on a trailer in a driveway would be problematical. I wouldn't
keep an I/O boat out on a mooring or in a wet dock, but that isn't what
you are going to do.

I wouldn't take any advice on boats that Herring offers as valuable."


Yup...drysail is the term we use.
Out of the almost 8000 hours in a year, my boat might average 25 in the water. (if we really like this new boat, that might be a bit higher) In four years the Legend didn't spend one night in the water.

Just flush out the motor and lower unit after use, keep everything
greased and oiled, and wash the salt off the boat and trailer and axles
and you'll be fine.


.... and make sure all the water drains out, keep the outdrive trimmed
down etc. I think it still freezes up there, in spite of all of this
global warming. ;-)

Tough choice to make
 

On Wed, 04 May 2016 19:33:36 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/4/2016 8:40 AM, True North wrote:
Renting a boat isn't an option up here.
Guess with the short season and limited market it just doesn't make business sense.

Substitute owning for renting and reread your own statement.


See f there is a shard ownership co operative.

I think the problem is everyone will want the boat on the same sunny
day.

Tough choice to make
 

On Wed, 04 May 2016 19:33:36 -0500, Califbill
wrote:
- show quoted text -
"I think the problem is everyone will want the boat on the same sunny
day."


Bingo!
Once you strip out all the rainy or high wind days on a short boating season.....the perfect days would probably amount to maybe 70 or 80 per year. I could drive about 4 or 5 hours up to Grand Bay in neighboring New Brunswick to rent a boat....even a house boat but I like the ocean. Around here we are limited to canoe rentals. Wife wouldn't like that on the ocean.

Tough choice to make
 

On 5/5/2016 9:08 AM, True North wrote:

On Wed, 04 May 2016 19:33:36 -0500, Califbill
wrote:
- show quoted text -
"I think the problem is everyone will want the boat on the same sunny
day."


Bingo!
Once you strip out all the rainy or high wind days on a short boating season.....the perfect days would probably amount to maybe 70 or 80 per year. I could drive about 4 or 5 hours up to Grand Bay in neighboring New Brunswick to rent a boat....even a house boat but I like the ocean. Around here we are limited to canoe rentals. Wife wouldn't like that on the ocean.

A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long.

I hate to say this but you aren't too bright.

Tough choice to make
 

FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?

Tough choice to make
 

On Thu, 5 May 2016 06:08:36 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


On Wed, 04 May 2016 19:33:36 -0500, Califbill
wrote:
- show quoted text -
"I think the problem is everyone will want the boat on the same sunny
day."


Bingo!
Once you strip out all the rainy or high wind days on a short boating season.....the perfect days would probably amount to maybe 70 or 80 per year. I could drive about 4 or 5 hours up to Grand Bay in neighboring New Brunswick to rent a boat....even a house boat but I like the ocean. Around here we are limited to canoe rentals. Wife wouldn't like that on the ocean.

I had an IBM friend in one of those boat co-ops and the only reason it
worked for him was we had a very loose schedule policy so he could
work weekends and take 2 days off in the middle of the week. Even
then, in the season he couldn't get a boat every time he wanted it and
sometimes the available boat was not what he wanted.

Tough choice to make
 

On 5/5/16 11:58 AM, True North wrote:
FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?



He's a scaredy pussy, as evidenced by his never-ending efforts here to
hide his identity.

Tough choice to make
 

On Thu, 5 May 2016 08:58:03 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?

Guys run offshore here all the time in 17-18' boats but they
occasionally wash up on the beach in Bermuda.

Tough choice to make
 

On Thu, 5 May 2016 12:02:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/5/16 11:58 AM, True North wrote:
FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?



He's a scaredy pussy, as evidenced by his never-ending efforts here to
hide his identity.

What do you need to know, Keyser? I've asked and offered a dozen times.

You too cowardly to answer the question?
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

Tough choice to make
 

On Thu, 5 May 2016 08:58:03 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?

Yup. His comment definitely deserved some kindergartenish name-calling. Hopefully your wife has
enough sense not to let you 'go to sea' too damn far in a 17' Bayliner.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

Tough choice to make
 

On 5/5/16 2:46 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Thu, 5 May 2016 08:58:03 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?

Yup. His comment definitely deserved some kindergartenish name-calling. Hopefully your wife has
enough sense not to let you 'go to sea' too damn far in a 17' Bayliner.
--

Why are you boatless bozos commenting here? Your boats only traverse the
interstates.

Tough choice to make
 

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:46:42 PM UTC-4, Keine Krausescheiße wrote:
On Thu, 5 May 2016 08:58:03 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?

Yup. His comment definitely deserved some kindergartenish name-calling. Hopefully your wife has
enough sense not to let you 'go to sea' too damn far in a 17' Bayliner.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

Especially one that has a huge hole in the hull covered only by a rubber condom.

Tough choice to make
 

On Thu, 5 May 2016 14:48:06 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/5/16 2:46 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Thu, 5 May 2016 08:58:03 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?

Yup. His comment definitely deserved some kindergartenish name-calling. Hopefully your wife has
enough sense not to let you 'go to sea' too damn far in a 17' Bayliner.
--

Why are you boatless bozos commenting here? Your boats only traverse the
interstates.

You talking to Luddite?
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

Tough choice to make
 

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:48:08 PM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/5/16 2:46 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Thu, 5 May 2016 08:58:03 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?

Yup. His comment definitely deserved some kindergartenish name-calling. Hopefully your wife has
enough sense not to let you 'go to sea' too damn far in a 17' Bayliner.
--

Why are you boatless bozos commenting here? Your boats only traverse the
interstates.

Hold on a sec. You seem to be getting more confused. If these guys were boatless, they'd have no boats to traverse the interstates with! So which is it, Keister?

Tough choice to make
 

On Thu, 5 May 2016 13:04:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:48:08 PM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/5/16 2:46 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Thu, 5 May 2016 08:58:03 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?

Yup. His comment definitely deserved some kindergartenish name-calling. Hopefully your wife has
enough sense not to let you 'go to sea' too damn far in a 17' Bayliner.
--

Why are you boatless bozos commenting here? Your boats only traverse the
interstates.

Hold on a sec. You seem to be getting more confused. If these guys were boatless, they'd have no boats to traverse the interstates with! So which is it, Keister?

He seems to forget there are more than just two of us who are currently boatless and own an RV.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

Tough choice to make
 

Tough choice to make
 

True North wrote:
FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?

Selective editing? You not-so-cleverly omitted "I hate to say this but
you aren't too bright.".

Tough choice to make
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/5/16 11:58 AM, True North wrote:
FlatulenceJim farts..
- show quoted text -
"A little 17 ft boat will have to choose its ocean days carefully. You'd
be lucky to get 3 of those days all summer long."


Well Stinky, around here we have a history of inshore fisherman going
to sea (within a few miles of land) in boats that size and not much
bigger.
What kind of girlieman are y'all?



He's a scaredy pussy, as evidenced by his never-ending efforts here to
hide his identity.

Like your buddy Kevin Noble?

Tough choice to make
 

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 8:57:20 PM UTC-4, Justan Olphart wrote:

You need to stop listening to salesmen Donnie.

It doesnt matter, he's a ****ing dip**** anyway.