Listening to Hillary deliver a speech on ISIL and working with our
allies to combat it...and she is compelling, knowledgeable and
rational...just the opposite of Trump and Cruz.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 06:28:17 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/23/16 11:17 PM, wrote:


That is not pragmatic, it is simply pulling the rooster.
If you can rationalize Hillary and Bernie, it is clear you are not
doing anything but following the party line or you do not really
understand who they are.

In the most fundamental issues, they are polar opposites


I'm not "rationalizing" anything. I don't have any serious issues with
Hillary as president. I could accept Bernie, though I doubt he would be
effective. The two leading Republican alternatives, Trump and Cruz, are
unacceptable for reasons listed here and elsewhere many times.

I do not disagree about Trump and Cruz but I find Hillary and Bernie
just as unacceptable for different reasons.


Voting for the Libertarian is, basically, giving up.

Maybe but my conscience will be clear.
BTW I bet they said the same thing about voting for the republican 156
years ago.

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:42:57 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I'm a pragmatic voter and would gladly accept either of the Democratic
candidates as POTUS. The Republican alternatives are unaccepable.

That is not pragmatic, it is simply pulling the rooster.
If you can rationalize Hillary and Bernie, it is clear you are not
doing anything but following the party line or you do not really
understand who they are.

In the most fundamental issues, they are polar opposites

Then he isn't following the party line, or has different
"fundamentals" than do you.
Pretty sure Harry can distinguish Democrat from Republican,
while you apparently can't.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:22:48 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:42:57 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I'm a pragmatic voter and would gladly accept either of the Democratic
candidates as POTUS. The Republican alternatives are unaccepable.

That is not pragmatic, it is simply pulling the rooster.
If you can rationalize Hillary and Bernie, it is clear you are not
doing anything but following the party line or you do not really
understand who they are.

In the most fundamental issues, they are polar opposites

Then he isn't following the party line, or has different
"fundamentals" than do you.

He definitely just follows the party line. If you are as much against
the big corporations, wars and income equality as Harry professes to
be, you are a Bernie person. If you just want another 4 years of the
Bush administration you are a Hillary person, yet Harry can go for
either with equal fervor.

Pretty sure Harry can distinguish Democrat from Republican,
while you apparently can't.

I am not convinced there is a real difference unless you are talking
about Bernie and he is actually an independent who is just piggy
backing on the democrats because the Greens will usually only get on
80% of the ballots and the Socialism & Liberation party is lucky to
get 30%.

In article ,
says...


He definitely just follows the party line. If you are as much against
the big corporations, wars and income equality as Harry professes to
be, you are a Bernie person. If you just want another 4 years of the
Bush administration you are a Hillary person, yet Harry can go for
either with equal fervor.


Both HRC and Bernie are worlds apart from the GOP.
Excepting the bull**** from Trump, who is all bull****.
Social Security. Medicare. Heath care. Minimum wage.
Taxation. Justice. Supreme Court. Gun control. Gay rights.
"Free trade." Unionization. Wall Street regulation.
Religious freedom.
No doubt I forgot some.
HRC has been pulled a little left by Bernie. Big deal.
You'd have to be a fool to not see the differences between the
Dems and the GOP.

Pretty sure Harry can distinguish Democrat from Republican,
while you apparently can't.

I am not convinced there is a real difference unless you are talking
about Bernie and he is actually an independent who is just piggy
backing on the democrats because the Greens will usually only get on
80% of the ballots and the Socialism & Liberation party is lucky to
get 30%.

See above.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:59:00 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


He definitely just follows the party line. If you are as much against
the big corporations, wars and income equality as Harry professes to
be, you are a Bernie person. If you just want another 4 years of the
Bush administration you are a Hillary person, yet Harry can go for
either with equal fervor.


Both HRC and Bernie are worlds apart from the GOP.
Excepting the bull**** from Trump, who is all bull****.
Social Security. Medicare. Heath care. Minimum wage.
Taxation. Justice. Supreme Court. Gun control. Gay rights.
"Free trade." Unionization. Wall Street regulation.
Religious freedom.
No doubt I forgot some.
HRC has been pulled a little left by Bernie. Big deal.
You'd have to be a fool to not see the differences between the
Dems and the GOP.

Pretty sure Harry can distinguish Democrat from Republican,
while you apparently can't.

I am not convinced there is a real difference unless you are talking
about Bernie and he is actually an independent who is just piggy
backing on the democrats because the Greens will usually only get on
80% of the ballots and the Socialism & Liberation party is lucky to
get 30%.

See above.

While impressing us with your knowledge, remember how wrong you were about ISIS.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, juvenile name-callers, and narcissists...not guns!

On 3/24/16 5:06 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:59:00 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


He definitely just follows the party line. If you are as much against
the big corporations, wars and income equality as Harry professes to
be, you are a Bernie person. If you just want another 4 years of the
Bush administration you are a Hillary person, yet Harry can go for
either with equal fervor.


Both HRC and Bernie are worlds apart from the GOP.
Excepting the bull**** from Trump, who is all bull****.
Social Security. Medicare. Heath care. Minimum wage.
Taxation. Justice. Supreme Court. Gun control. Gay rights.
"Free trade." Unionization. Wall Street regulation.
Religious freedom.
No doubt I forgot some.
HRC has been pulled a little left by Bernie. Big deal.
You'd have to be a fool to not see the differences between the
Dems and the GOP.

Pretty sure Harry can distinguish Democrat from Republican,
while you apparently can't.

I am not convinced there is a real difference unless you are talking
about Bernie and he is actually an independent who is just piggy
backing on the democrats because the Greens will usually only get on
80% of the ballots and the Socialism & Liberation party is lucky to
get 30%.

See above.

While impressing us with your knowledge, remember how wrong you were about ISIS.
--

Herring plans to vote for Trump if Trump is the Republican nominee.

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 4:11:35 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/24/16 5:06 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:59:00 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


He definitely just follows the party line. If you are as much against
the big corporations, wars and income equality as Harry professes to
be, you are a Bernie person. If you just want another 4 years of the
Bush administration you are a Hillary person, yet Harry can go for
either with equal fervor.


Both HRC and Bernie are worlds apart from the GOP.
Excepting the bull**** from Trump, who is all bull****.
Social Security. Medicare. Heath care. Minimum wage.
Taxation. Justice. Supreme Court. Gun control. Gay rights.
"Free trade." Unionization. Wall Street regulation.
Religious freedom.
No doubt I forgot some.
HRC has been pulled a little left by Bernie. Big deal.
You'd have to be a fool to not see the differences between the
Dems and the GOP.

Pretty sure Harry can distinguish Democrat from Republican,
while you apparently can't.

I am not convinced there is a real difference unless you are talking
about Bernie and he is actually an independent who is just piggy
backing on the democrats because the Greens will usually only get on
80% of the ballots and the Socialism & Liberation party is lucky to
get 30%.

See above.

While impressing us with your knowledge, remember how wrong you were about ISIS.
--

Herring plans to vote for Trump if Trump is the Republican nominee.

You'll vote for Sanders if he's the Democratic nominee, so...

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:59:00 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

HRC has been pulled a little left by Bernie. Big deal.
You'd have to be a fool to not see the differences between the
Dems and the GOP.


Hillary is political goo that assumes the shape of what ever she oozes
over. It is no mystery why she will not tell us what she was telling
the Wall Street firms in those 6 figure talks.
The Clintons could not be more different than Bernie. Bill was the one
who oversaw the destruction of the New Deal bank regulation and pimped
for CFMA that caused the 2007 crash, Hillary was on the board of
Walmart when they stopped being "America's store" and became the
Chinese outlet mall. She voted for the Iraq war and is basically John
McCain in a pants suit.
If you don't like her politics, wait a minute. She will say she is
something different, essentially a lying sack of ****.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:27:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


You'll vote for Sanders if he's the Democratic nominee, so...

Sanders will be ground up by the machine.