On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:58:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/16/16 12:51 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:39:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

There is nothing in the Constitution that
requires military or any other form of government service or duty, and
therefore there is no requirement, period.

There are plenty of social "obligations" that are not defined in the
constitution. It would have been easy for me to dodge the draft by
hiding in school. I had signed an "intent" letter with the CG when I
was 17 but those are really not binding.
It could be that I took JFKs words to heart "ask what you can do for
your country".



I was cognizant of what was going on in SE Asia while I was in college
and immediately after, and felt a social obligation to speak out against
the horrors we were perpetrating there to prop up a brutal dictatorship.
I was working and obtaining a master's degree immediately after college,
and while working at The Star was offered a government position that
would have fulfilled a social obligation (agricultural assistance to
farmers) in Vietnam, but by the time I was trained and ready, the
position had been discontinued.

I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was.
After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send
"American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue
because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that
would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey.

When was this?
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote:

I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was.
After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send
"American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue
because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that
would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey.

When was this?

64-65

On 3/16/16 4:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote:

I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was.
After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send
"American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue
because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that
would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey.

When was this?

64-65


Hmm. I was chasing after a gorgeous redhead named Judy in 64-65.

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:54:05 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/16/16 4:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote:

I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was.
After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send
"American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue
because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that
would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey.

When was this?

64-65


Hmm. I was chasing after a gorgeous redhead named Judy in 64-65.

Was she one of the ones telling you how disappointed she was at shooting your load in
three seconds? Had to be one of 'em for you to know how they felt!
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:54:05 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Hmm. I was chasing after a gorgeous redhead named Judy in 64-65.

Too bad, I married her ;-)

I was dating a little blonde named Susanne in 64,

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:54:05 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/16/16 4:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote:

I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was.
After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send
"American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue
because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that
would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey.

When was this?

64-65


Hmm. I was chasing after a gorgeous redhead named Judy in 64-65.

===

Lucky for her she got away.

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:30:15 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote:

I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was.
After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send
"American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue
because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that
would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey.

When was this?

64-65

Well guess what, I got drafted in '65 and they didn't send my sorry ass to New
Jersey. I went to Leonard Wood.

It depends where you were when you got drafted, or where your home was. I was working
at Cape Canaveral, but requested, and got, induction in Kansas City. My home was in
Sedalia, MO, at the time.
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 17:26:09 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:30:15 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote:

I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was.
After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send
"American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue
because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that
would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey.

When was this?

64-65

Well guess what, I got drafted in '65 and they didn't send my sorry ass to New
Jersey. I went to Leonard Wood.

It depends where you were when you got drafted, or where your home was. I was working
at Cape Canaveral, but requested, and got, induction in Kansas City. My home was in
Sedalia, MO, at the time.

I did the letter of intent late in 63, I signed up in 64 with deferred
induction until Jan 65. In that time they had talked me out of a 4
year hitch and going to a life boat station and put me in the white
boat navy. (the deal with the devil I made to get FT school). I was
doomed to weather cutters.