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Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:08:15 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/16/16 2:03 PM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:58:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/16/16 12:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:39:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: There is nothing in the Constitution that requires military or any other form of government service or duty, and therefore there is no requirement, period. There are plenty of social "obligations" that are not defined in the constitution. It would have been easy for me to dodge the draft by hiding in school. I had signed an "intent" letter with the CG when I was 17 but those are really not binding. It could be that I took JFKs words to heart "ask what you can do for your country". I was cognizant of what was going on in SE Asia while I was in college and immediately after, and felt a social obligation to speak out against the horrors we were perpetrating there to prop up a brutal dictatorship. I was working and obtaining a master's degree immediately after college, and while working at The Star was offered a government position that would have fulfilled a social obligation (agricultural assistance to farmers) in Vietnam, but by the time I was trained and ready, the position had been discontinued. Gosh, all that speaking out and you still volunteered to perform your 'Vietnam service', if you can be believed, which you can't. 'Agricultural assistance to farmers'? You knew more than the farmers? Or were you going to simply fertilize the Kansas wheat fields with your Krausescheiße? -- As I have stated here several times, I was "recruited" to become a federal employee and participate as a publicist to build support about several agricultural "pacification programs" aimed at helping small-scale farmers in Vietnam become more productive. Thus, while you were blowing up villages, women, and children, I was involved in programs to help better feed the populace and increase the meager income of farmers. See...even back then, you were a piece of ****. I'll guarantee you I spent more time and effort in civic action programs than you dreamed of. Let's see...collecting bodies and now providing agricultural assistance. Wow. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! |
Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:58:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 3/16/16 12:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:39:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: There is nothing in the Constitution that requires military or any other form of government service or duty, and therefore there is no requirement, period. There are plenty of social "obligations" that are not defined in the constitution. It would have been easy for me to dodge the draft by hiding in school. I had signed an "intent" letter with the CG when I was 17 but those are really not binding. It could be that I took JFKs words to heart "ask what you can do for your country". I was cognizant of what was going on in SE Asia while I was in college and immediately after, and felt a social obligation to speak out against the horrors we were perpetrating there to prop up a brutal dictatorship. I was working and obtaining a master's degree immediately after college, and while working at The Star was offered a government position that would have fulfilled a social obligation (agricultural assistance to farmers) in Vietnam, but by the time I was trained and ready, the position had been discontinued. I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was. After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send "American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey. |
Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:58:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/16/16 12:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:39:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: There is nothing in the Constitution that requires military or any other form of government service or duty, and therefore there is no requirement, period. There are plenty of social "obligations" that are not defined in the constitution. It would have been easy for me to dodge the draft by hiding in school. I had signed an "intent" letter with the CG when I was 17 but those are really not binding. It could be that I took JFKs words to heart "ask what you can do for your country". I was cognizant of what was going on in SE Asia while I was in college and immediately after, and felt a social obligation to speak out against the horrors we were perpetrating there to prop up a brutal dictatorship. I was working and obtaining a master's degree immediately after college, and while working at The Star was offered a government position that would have fulfilled a social obligation (agricultural assistance to farmers) in Vietnam, but by the time I was trained and ready, the position had been discontinued. I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was. After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send "American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey. When was this? -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! |
Brown shirts for all!
On 3/16/16 2:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:08:15 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/16/16 2:03 PM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:58:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/16/16 12:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:39:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: There is nothing in the Constitution that requires military or any other form of government service or duty, and therefore there is no requirement, period. There are plenty of social "obligations" that are not defined in the constitution. It would have been easy for me to dodge the draft by hiding in school. I had signed an "intent" letter with the CG when I was 17 but those are really not binding. It could be that I took JFKs words to heart "ask what you can do for your country". I was cognizant of what was going on in SE Asia while I was in college and immediately after, and felt a social obligation to speak out against the horrors we were perpetrating there to prop up a brutal dictatorship. I was working and obtaining a master's degree immediately after college, and while working at The Star was offered a government position that would have fulfilled a social obligation (agricultural assistance to farmers) in Vietnam, but by the time I was trained and ready, the position had been discontinued. Gosh, all that speaking out and you still volunteered to perform your 'Vietnam service', if you can be believed, which you can't. 'Agricultural assistance to farmers'? You knew more than the farmers? Or were you going to simply fertilize the Kansas wheat fields with your Krausescheiße? -- As I have stated here several times, I was "recruited" to become a federal employee and participate as a publicist to build support about several agricultural "pacification programs" aimed at helping small-scale farmers in Vietnam become more productive. Thus, while you were blowing up villages, women, and children, I was involved in programs to help better feed the populace and increase the meager income of farmers. See...even back then, you were a piece of ****. I'll guarantee you I spent more time and effort in civic action programs than you dreamed of. Your attendance at Klan meetings hardly counts. |
Brown shirts for all!
On 3/16/16 2:54 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:58:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/16/16 12:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:39:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: There is nothing in the Constitution that requires military or any other form of government service or duty, and therefore there is no requirement, period. There are plenty of social "obligations" that are not defined in the constitution. It would have been easy for me to dodge the draft by hiding in school. I had signed an "intent" letter with the CG when I was 17 but those are really not binding. It could be that I took JFKs words to heart "ask what you can do for your country". I was cognizant of what was going on in SE Asia while I was in college and immediately after, and felt a social obligation to speak out against the horrors we were perpetrating there to prop up a brutal dictatorship. I was working and obtaining a master's degree immediately after college, and while working at The Star was offered a government position that would have fulfilled a social obligation (agricultural assistance to farmers) in Vietnam, but by the time I was trained and ready, the position had been discontinued. I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was. After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send "American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey. I was in college full time and working full time until the late 1960s. |
Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote: I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was. After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send "American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey. When was this? 64-65 |
Brown shirts for all!
On 3/16/16 4:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote: I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was. After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send "American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey. When was this? 64-65 Hmm. I was chasing after a gorgeous redhead named Judy in 64-65. :) |
Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:52:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/16/16 2:41 PM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:08:15 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/16/16 2:03 PM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:58:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/16/16 12:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:39:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: There is nothing in the Constitution that requires military or any other form of government service or duty, and therefore there is no requirement, period. There are plenty of social "obligations" that are not defined in the constitution. It would have been easy for me to dodge the draft by hiding in school. I had signed an "intent" letter with the CG when I was 17 but those are really not binding. It could be that I took JFKs words to heart "ask what you can do for your country". I was cognizant of what was going on in SE Asia while I was in college and immediately after, and felt a social obligation to speak out against the horrors we were perpetrating there to prop up a brutal dictatorship. I was working and obtaining a master's degree immediately after college, and while working at The Star was offered a government position that would have fulfilled a social obligation (agricultural assistance to farmers) in Vietnam, but by the time I was trained and ready, the position had been discontinued. Gosh, all that speaking out and you still volunteered to perform your 'Vietnam service', if you can be believed, which you can't. 'Agricultural assistance to farmers'? You knew more than the farmers? Or were you going to simply fertilize the Kansas wheat fields with your Krausescheiße? -- As I have stated here several times, I was "recruited" to become a federal employee and participate as a publicist to build support about several agricultural "pacification programs" aimed at helping small-scale farmers in Vietnam become more productive. Thus, while you were blowing up villages, women, and children, I was involved in programs to help better feed the populace and increase the meager income of farmers. See...even back then, you were a piece of ****. I'll guarantee you I spent more time and effort in civic action programs than you dreamed of. Your attendance at Klan meetings hardly counts. Never been to one. I'm talking about Vietnam...the place where you hunted bodies and almost helped the rice farmers (with fertilizing techniques, I imagine). -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! |
Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:30:15 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote: I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was. After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send "American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey. When was this? 64-65 Well guess what, I got drafted in '65 and they didn't send my sorry ass to New Jersey. I went to Leonard Wood. It depends where you were when you got drafted, or where your home was. I was working at Cape Canaveral, but requested, and got, induction in Kansas City. My home was in Sedalia, MO, at the time. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! |
Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:54:05 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/16/16 4:30 PM, wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote: I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was. After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send "American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey. When was this? 64-65 Hmm. I was chasing after a gorgeous redhead named Judy in 64-65. :) Was she one of the ones telling you how disappointed she was at shooting your load in three seconds? Had to be one of 'em for you to know how they felt! -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! |
Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:41:28 -0400, John H.
wrote: See...even back then, you were a piece of ****. I'll guarantee you I spent more time and effort in civic action programs than you dreamed of. Let's see...collecting bodies and now providing agricultural assistance. Wow. === Providing agriculture assistance could have been something as complicated as shoveling ****, a skill he has demonstrated many times and seems eminently well qualified for. |
Brown shirts for all!
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Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:54:05 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: Hmm. I was chasing after a gorgeous redhead named Judy in 64-65. :) Too bad, I married her ;-) I was dating a little blonde named Susanne in 64, |
Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 17:26:09 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:30:15 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote: I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was. After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send "American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey. When was this? 64-65 Well guess what, I got drafted in '65 and they didn't send my sorry ass to New Jersey. I went to Leonard Wood. It depends where you were when you got drafted, or where your home was. I was working at Cape Canaveral, but requested, and got, induction in Kansas City. My home was in Sedalia, MO, at the time. I did the letter of intent late in 63, I signed up in 64 with deferred induction until Jan 65. In that time they had talked me out of a 4 year hitch and going to a life boat station and put me in the white boat navy. (the deal with the devil I made to get FT school). I was doomed to weather cutters. |
Brown shirts for all!
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:54:05 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 3/16/16 4:30 PM, wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:13:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:54:59 -0400, wrote: I had already enlisted before most people even knew where Vietnam was. After all it was a place where LBJ had just said we would never send "American boys". Dodging the draft was not really much of an issue because few actually got drafted and if you did, the worst thing that would happen is you would be sent to New Jersey. When was this? 64-65 Hmm. I was chasing after a gorgeous redhead named Judy in 64-65. :) === Lucky for her she got away. |
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