My favorite Telarc CD
 

On 2/17/2016 1:45 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:36:09 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2016 12:11 PM, John H. wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxGQ5t4lvI

Enjoy.


Telarc has put out a number of Super Audio CD's, this being one of them.

Hopefully, you have a Super Audio CD player (Sony) and
amplifier/receiver that
will accept it's 6 channel output with each channel having a dedicated,
discrete input. The amp/receiver must be then put in direct, 6 channel
mode, (often called "Multi-Channel Input" driving a main left, main
right, center, left rear, right rear and subwoofer. Most Telarc SACD
are hybrid, meaning they will also play on a conventional CD player but
you will lose superior fidelity of a SACD recording. Conventional,
digital "Surround Sound" ... be it 5.1 or 7.1 is *not* SACD.

In addition, SACD's are recorded completely differently than a regular
CD. It's complicated and hard to explain but it uses phase modulation
rather than amplitude modulation. Basically, it's much like the
fidelity difference between AM and FM radio. Many people don't realize
that AM radio's bandwidth is limited to 10Khz which means it can't
broadcast the full audio frequency spectrum that the human ear can
detect. FM, in addition to being frequency modulated rather than
amplitude modulated has a 200Khz bandwidth.

While the channel separation (bandwidth) of FM is 200khz, it is used for several signals. The resulting audio bandwidth is 15khz.


True. But 15Khz is still a hell of a lot better than 5Khz for music, etc.


It's really unfortunate that the US adopted the stereo FM system it did. While it maintained compatibility with the mono FM receivers of the day, it severely limited the performance of the FM stereo signal. We're still suffering with it today.

Oh, and there are scores of SACD players on the market now. And while some have the analog outputs you describe, most of the modern players are also Blu-ray, and transport the audio via HDMI. It then depends on your AV receiver to decode and route the audio to the discrete channels.


I didn't realize that. You're right. When I first got into SACD Sony
was the only game in town because they developed it.

I'd still like to compare hard wired, 6 channel discrete audio
connections to multiplexed, digital connections however. I suppose if
the sampling rate is high enough for the digital connection there may
not be a noticeable difference. I'd have to be convinced though, being
an old fashioned analog kinda guy. :-)

My favorite Telarc CD
 

On 2/17/2016 2:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/17/16 12:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2016 12:11 PM, John H. wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxGQ5t4lvI

Enjoy.


Telarc has put out a number of Super Audio CD's, this being one of them.

Hopefully, you have a Super Audio CD player (Sony) and
amplifier/receiver that
will accept it's 6 channel output with each channel having a dedicated,
discrete input. The amp/receiver must be then put in direct, 6 channel
mode, (often called "Multi-Channel Input" driving a main left, main
right, center, left rear, right rear and subwoofer. Most Telarc SACD
are hybrid, meaning they will also play on a conventional CD player but
you will lose superior fidelity of a SACD recording. Conventional,
digital "Surround Sound" ... be it 5.1 or 7.1 is *not* SACD.

In addition, SACD's are recorded completely differently than a regular
CD. It's complicated and hard to explain but it uses phase modulation
rather than amplitude modulation. Basically, it's much like the
fidelity difference between AM and FM radio. Many people don't realize
that AM radio's bandwidth is limited to 10Khz which means it can't
broadcast the full audio frequency spectrum that the human ear can
detect. FM, in addition to being frequency modulated rather than
amplitude modulated has a 200Khz bandwidth.

The only negative about SACD's is the limited number of them available
and the fact that Sony is the only manufacturer of SACD players (last I
knew).



My criteria is how much do the "super" CDs sound like a live concert.
The few I have heard on really good sound systems sound over-engineered
to me, sort of like an AUDI car. They sure as hell don't sound like you
are sitting in the expensive seats at a serious music concert.

A lot of issues there Harry. One is the sound system itself, it's
positioning and how much of a sound stage it can create without benefit
of creative mixing and recording. Also, I really do not care for
surround sound where the rear or side speakers are producing an
unnatural sound stage. You don't sit in the middle of a band or
orchestra when listening to music. The better recordings will capture
the subtle reflections of sound from the rear, and the audio system
needs to be adjusted and set up so they are not exaggerated.

I like simple, 2 channel stereo with well recorded music. A dipole
speaker design ... like your maggies or the Martin Logans I had work
well to produce a sound stage *if* you have them positioned properly.
So will the old Bose 901's when properly set up.

BTW, the sound stage can be 3 dimensional when set up well. Not just
left to right, but fore and aft as well. A well set up system will
create a sound illusion that "places the instruments or vocals.

My favorite Telarc CD
 

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:38:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 12:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2016 12:11 PM, John H. wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxGQ5t4lvI

Enjoy.


Telarc has put out a number of Super Audio CD's, this being one of them.

Hopefully, you have a Super Audio CD player (Sony) and
amplifier/receiver that
will accept it's 6 channel output with each channel having a dedicated,
discrete input. The amp/receiver must be then put in direct, 6 channel
mode, (often called "Multi-Channel Input" driving a main left, main
right, center, left rear, right rear and subwoofer. Most Telarc SACD
are hybrid, meaning they will also play on a conventional CD player but
you will lose superior fidelity of a SACD recording. Conventional,
digital "Surround Sound" ... be it 5.1 or 7.1 is *not* SACD.

In addition, SACD's are recorded completely differently than a regular
CD. It's complicated and hard to explain but it uses phase modulation
rather than amplitude modulation. Basically, it's much like the
fidelity difference between AM and FM radio. Many people don't realize
that AM radio's bandwidth is limited to 10Khz which means it can't
broadcast the full audio frequency spectrum that the human ear can
detect. FM, in addition to being frequency modulated rather than
amplitude modulated has a 200Khz bandwidth.

The only negative about SACD's is the limited number of them available
and the fact that Sony is the only manufacturer of SACD players (last I
knew).




My criteria is how much do the "super" CDs sound like a live concert.
The few I have heard on really good sound systems sound over-engineered
to me, sort of like an AUDI car. They sure as hell don't sound like you
are sitting in the expensive seats at a serious music concert.

BTW .. a true "audiophile" (which I am *not*) would be dismayed at the
sight of a bass or treble control or any other circuit that "colors" the
sound of the recording. I am not that far gone with this stuff. Living
rooms and listening areas vary acoustically and really can't duplicate a
concert hall or your local live music hot spot.

I've played with audio stuff for years but have pretty much lost
interest in it. I am cleaning out our house and you wouldn't believe
the gear I am tossing. Came across a big box *full* of directional
audio connects that must have cost a fortune to accumulate over the
years. Problem is, I never bought into the "directional" BS to begin
with. The idea is that the capacitive reactance changes along it's
length and the directional cables compensate for any losses.
My problem with that is that at audio frequencies there is *no*
capacitive or inductive reactance generated anyway. At higher freqs ..
like RF ... yes, the transmission line becomes reactive to frequency but
not at audio freqs.

My favorite Telarc CD
 

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:28:52 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:38:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 12:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2016 12:11 PM, John H. wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxGQ5t4lvI

Enjoy.


Telarc has put out a number of Super Audio CD's, this being one of them.

Hopefully, you have a Super Audio CD player (Sony) and
amplifier/receiver that
will accept it's 6 channel output with each channel having a dedicated,
discrete input. The amp/receiver must be then put in direct, 6 channel
mode, (often called "Multi-Channel Input" driving a main left, main
right, center, left rear, right rear and subwoofer. Most Telarc SACD
are hybrid, meaning they will also play on a conventional CD player but
you will lose superior fidelity of a SACD recording. Conventional,
digital "Surround Sound" ... be it 5.1 or 7.1 is *not* SACD.

In addition, SACD's are recorded completely differently than a regular
CD. It's complicated and hard to explain but it uses phase modulation
rather than amplitude modulation. Basically, it's much like the
fidelity difference between AM and FM radio. Many people don't realize
that AM radio's bandwidth is limited to 10Khz which means it can't
broadcast the full audio frequency spectrum that the human ear can
detect. FM, in addition to being frequency modulated rather than
amplitude modulated has a 200Khz bandwidth.

The only negative about SACD's is the limited number of them available
and the fact that Sony is the only manufacturer of SACD players (last I
knew).




My criteria is how much do the "super" CDs sound like a live concert.
The few I have heard on really good sound systems sound over-engineered
to me, sort of like an AUDI car. They sure as hell don't sound like you
are sitting in the expensive seats at a serious music concert.

BTW .. a true "audiophile" (which I am *not*) would be dismayed at the
sight of a bass or treble control or any other circuit that "colors" the
sound of the recording. I am not that far gone with this stuff. Living
rooms and listening areas vary acoustically and really can't duplicate a
concert hall or your local live music hot spot.

I've played with audio stuff for years but have pretty much lost
interest in it. I am cleaning out our house and you wouldn't believe
the gear I am tossing. Came across a big box *full* of directional
audio connects that must have cost a fortune to accumulate over the
years. Problem is, I never bought into the "directional" BS to begin
with. The idea is that the capacitive reactance changes along it's
length and the directional cables compensate for any losses.
My problem with that is that at audio frequencies there is *no*
capacitive or inductive reactance generated anyway. At higher freqs ..
like RF ... yes, the transmission line becomes reactive to frequency but
not at audio freqs.


I'm in the market for a new computer sound system. The one I've got now doesn't do
justice to the 'normal' Telarc.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

My favorite Telarc CD
 

On 2/17/16 5:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:38:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 12:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2016 12:11 PM, John H. wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxGQ5t4lvI

Enjoy.


Telarc has put out a number of Super Audio CD's, this being one of
them.

Hopefully, you have a Super Audio CD player (Sony) and
amplifier/receiver that
will accept it's 6 channel output with each channel having a dedicated,
discrete input. The amp/receiver must be then put in direct, 6 channel
mode, (often called "Multi-Channel Input" driving a main left, main
right, center, left rear, right rear and subwoofer. Most Telarc SACD
are hybrid, meaning they will also play on a conventional CD player but
you will lose superior fidelity of a SACD recording. Conventional,
digital "Surround Sound" ... be it 5.1 or 7.1 is *not* SACD.

In addition, SACD's are recorded completely differently than a regular
CD. It's complicated and hard to explain but it uses phase modulation
rather than amplitude modulation. Basically, it's much like the
fidelity difference between AM and FM radio. Many people don't realize
that AM radio's bandwidth is limited to 10Khz which means it can't
broadcast the full audio frequency spectrum that the human ear can
detect. FM, in addition to being frequency modulated rather than
amplitude modulated has a 200Khz bandwidth.

The only negative about SACD's is the limited number of them available
and the fact that Sony is the only manufacturer of SACD players (last I
knew).




My criteria is how much do the "super" CDs sound like a live concert.
The few I have heard on really good sound systems sound over-engineered
to me, sort of like an AUDI car. They sure as hell don't sound like you
are sitting in the expensive seats at a serious music concert.

BTW .. a true "audiophile" (which I am *not*) would be dismayed at the
sight of a bass or treble control or any other circuit that "colors" the
sound of the recording. I am not that far gone with this stuff. Living
rooms and listening areas vary acoustically and really can't duplicate a
concert hall or your local live music hot spot.

I've played with audio stuff for years but have pretty much lost
interest in it. I am cleaning out our house and you wouldn't believe
the gear I am tossing. Came across a big box *full* of directional
audio connects that must have cost a fortune to accumulate over the
years. Problem is, I never bought into the "directional" BS to begin
with. The idea is that the capacitive reactance changes along it's
length and the directional cables compensate for any losses.
My problem with that is that at audio frequencies there is *no*
capacitive or inductive reactance generated anyway. At higher freqs ..
like RF ... yes, the transmission line becomes reactive to frequency but
not at audio freqs.



If it sounds good to me, I'm happy with it.

My favorite Telarc CD
 

On 2/17/16 6:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:28:52 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:38:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 12:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2016 12:11 PM, John H. wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxGQ5t4lvI

Enjoy.


Telarc has put out a number of Super Audio CD's, this being one of them.

Hopefully, you have a Super Audio CD player (Sony) and
amplifier/receiver that
will accept it's 6 channel output with each channel having a dedicated,
discrete input. The amp/receiver must be then put in direct, 6 channel
mode, (often called "Multi-Channel Input" driving a main left, main
right, center, left rear, right rear and subwoofer. Most Telarc SACD
are hybrid, meaning they will also play on a conventional CD player but
you will lose superior fidelity of a SACD recording. Conventional,
digital "Surround Sound" ... be it 5.1 or 7.1 is *not* SACD.

In addition, SACD's are recorded completely differently than a regular
CD. It's complicated and hard to explain but it uses phase modulation
rather than amplitude modulation. Basically, it's much like the
fidelity difference between AM and FM radio. Many people don't realize
that AM radio's bandwidth is limited to 10Khz which means it can't
broadcast the full audio frequency spectrum that the human ear can
detect. FM, in addition to being frequency modulated rather than
amplitude modulated has a 200Khz bandwidth.

The only negative about SACD's is the limited number of them available
and the fact that Sony is the only manufacturer of SACD players (last I
knew).




My criteria is how much do the "super" CDs sound like a live concert.
The few I have heard on really good sound systems sound over-engineered
to me, sort of like an AUDI car. They sure as hell don't sound like you
are sitting in the expensive seats at a serious music concert.

BTW .. a true "audiophile" (which I am *not*) would be dismayed at the
sight of a bass or treble control or any other circuit that "colors" the
sound of the recording. I am not that far gone with this stuff. Living
rooms and listening areas vary acoustically and really can't duplicate a
concert hall or your local live music hot spot.

I've played with audio stuff for years but have pretty much lost
interest in it. I am cleaning out our house and you wouldn't believe
the gear I am tossing. Came across a big box *full* of directional
audio connects that must have cost a fortune to accumulate over the
years. Problem is, I never bought into the "directional" BS to begin
with. The idea is that the capacitive reactance changes along it's
length and the directional cables compensate for any losses.
My problem with that is that at audio frequencies there is *no*
capacitive or inductive reactance generated anyway. At higher freqs ..
like RF ... yes, the transmission line becomes reactive to frequency but
not at audio freqs.


I'm in the market for a new computer sound system. The one I've got now doesn't do
justice to the 'normal' Telarc.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!



I have some "M-Audio" speakers hooked up to my imac.

Like these:

http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Studio.../dp/B000MUXJCO

They sound pretty good.

My favorite Telarc CD
 

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:28:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 6:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:28:52 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:38:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 12:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2016 12:11 PM, John H. wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxGQ5t4lvI

Enjoy.


Telarc has put out a number of Super Audio CD's, this being one of them.

Hopefully, you have a Super Audio CD player (Sony) and
amplifier/receiver that
will accept it's 6 channel output with each channel having a dedicated,
discrete input. The amp/receiver must be then put in direct, 6 channel
mode, (often called "Multi-Channel Input" driving a main left, main
right, center, left rear, right rear and subwoofer. Most Telarc SACD
are hybrid, meaning they will also play on a conventional CD player but
you will lose superior fidelity of a SACD recording. Conventional,
digital "Surround Sound" ... be it 5.1 or 7.1 is *not* SACD.

In addition, SACD's are recorded completely differently than a regular
CD. It's complicated and hard to explain but it uses phase modulation
rather than amplitude modulation. Basically, it's much like the
fidelity difference between AM and FM radio. Many people don't realize
that AM radio's bandwidth is limited to 10Khz which means it can't
broadcast the full audio frequency spectrum that the human ear can
detect. FM, in addition to being frequency modulated rather than
amplitude modulated has a 200Khz bandwidth.

The only negative about SACD's is the limited number of them available
and the fact that Sony is the only manufacturer of SACD players (last I
knew).




My criteria is how much do the "super" CDs sound like a live concert.
The few I have heard on really good sound systems sound over-engineered
to me, sort of like an AUDI car. They sure as hell don't sound like you
are sitting in the expensive seats at a serious music concert.

BTW .. a true "audiophile" (which I am *not*) would be dismayed at the
sight of a bass or treble control or any other circuit that "colors" the
sound of the recording. I am not that far gone with this stuff. Living
rooms and listening areas vary acoustically and really can't duplicate a
concert hall or your local live music hot spot.

I've played with audio stuff for years but have pretty much lost
interest in it. I am cleaning out our house and you wouldn't believe
the gear I am tossing. Came across a big box *full* of directional
audio connects that must have cost a fortune to accumulate over the
years. Problem is, I never bought into the "directional" BS to begin
with. The idea is that the capacitive reactance changes along it's
length and the directional cables compensate for any losses.
My problem with that is that at audio frequencies there is *no*
capacitive or inductive reactance generated anyway. At higher freqs ..
like RF ... yes, the transmission line becomes reactive to frequency but
not at audio freqs.


I'm in the market for a new computer sound system. The one I've got now doesn't do
justice to the 'normal' Telarc.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!



I have some "M-Audio" speakers hooked up to my imac.

Like these:

http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Studio.../dp/B000MUXJCO

They sound pretty good.

Thanks, I'll look into them. Do they get enough bass without a subwoofer?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

My favorite Telarc CD
 

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:28:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 6:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:28:52 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:38:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 12:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2016 12:11 PM, John H. wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxGQ5t4lvI

Enjoy.


Telarc has put out a number of Super Audio CD's, this being one of them.

Hopefully, you have a Super Audio CD player (Sony) and
amplifier/receiver that
will accept it's 6 channel output with each channel having a dedicated,
discrete input. The amp/receiver must be then put in direct, 6 channel
mode, (often called "Multi-Channel Input" driving a main left, main
right, center, left rear, right rear and subwoofer. Most Telarc SACD
are hybrid, meaning they will also play on a conventional CD player but
you will lose superior fidelity of a SACD recording. Conventional,
digital "Surround Sound" ... be it 5.1 or 7.1 is *not* SACD.

In addition, SACD's are recorded completely differently than a regular
CD. It's complicated and hard to explain but it uses phase modulation
rather than amplitude modulation. Basically, it's much like the
fidelity difference between AM and FM radio. Many people don't realize
that AM radio's bandwidth is limited to 10Khz which means it can't
broadcast the full audio frequency spectrum that the human ear can
detect. FM, in addition to being frequency modulated rather than
amplitude modulated has a 200Khz bandwidth.

The only negative about SACD's is the limited number of them available
and the fact that Sony is the only manufacturer of SACD players (last I
knew).




My criteria is how much do the "super" CDs sound like a live concert.
The few I have heard on really good sound systems sound over-engineered
to me, sort of like an AUDI car. They sure as hell don't sound like you
are sitting in the expensive seats at a serious music concert.

BTW .. a true "audiophile" (which I am *not*) would be dismayed at the
sight of a bass or treble control or any other circuit that "colors" the
sound of the recording. I am not that far gone with this stuff. Living
rooms and listening areas vary acoustically and really can't duplicate a
concert hall or your local live music hot spot.

I've played with audio stuff for years but have pretty much lost
interest in it. I am cleaning out our house and you wouldn't believe
the gear I am tossing. Came across a big box *full* of directional
audio connects that must have cost a fortune to accumulate over the
years. Problem is, I never bought into the "directional" BS to begin
with. The idea is that the capacitive reactance changes along it's
length and the directional cables compensate for any losses.
My problem with that is that at audio frequencies there is *no*
capacitive or inductive reactance generated anyway. At higher freqs ..
like RF ... yes, the transmission line becomes reactive to frequency but
not at audio freqs.


I'm in the market for a new computer sound system. The one I've got now doesn't do
justice to the 'normal' Telarc.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!



I have some "M-Audio" speakers hooked up to my imac.

Like these:

http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Studio.../dp/B000MUXJCO

They sound pretty good.

Thanks, I'll look into them. Do they get enough bass without a subwoofer?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!


It's subjective. I think they do. Your mileage will vary. If you order from
anazon returns are easy

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

My favorite Telarc CD
 

On 2/17/2016 6:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/17/16 5:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:38:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 12:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2016 12:11 PM, John H. wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxGQ5t4lvI

Enjoy.


Telarc has put out a number of Super Audio CD's, this being one of
them.

Hopefully, you have a Super Audio CD player (Sony) and
amplifier/receiver that
will accept it's 6 channel output with each channel having a
dedicated,
discrete input. The amp/receiver must be then put in direct, 6
channel
mode, (often called "Multi-Channel Input" driving a main left, main
right, center, left rear, right rear and subwoofer. Most Telarc SACD
are hybrid, meaning they will also play on a conventional CD player
but
you will lose superior fidelity of a SACD recording. Conventional,
digital "Surround Sound" ... be it 5.1 or 7.1 is *not* SACD.

In addition, SACD's are recorded completely differently than a regular
CD. It's complicated and hard to explain but it uses phase modulation
rather than amplitude modulation. Basically, it's much like the
fidelity difference between AM and FM radio. Many people don't
realize
that AM radio's bandwidth is limited to 10Khz which means it can't
broadcast the full audio frequency spectrum that the human ear can
detect. FM, in addition to being frequency modulated rather than
amplitude modulated has a 200Khz bandwidth.

The only negative about SACD's is the limited number of them available
and the fact that Sony is the only manufacturer of SACD players
(last I
knew).




My criteria is how much do the "super" CDs sound like a live concert.
The few I have heard on really good sound systems sound over-engineered
to me, sort of like an AUDI car. They sure as hell don't sound like you
are sitting in the expensive seats at a serious music concert.

BTW .. a true "audiophile" (which I am *not*) would be dismayed at the
sight of a bass or treble control or any other circuit that "colors" the
sound of the recording. I am not that far gone with this stuff. Living
rooms and listening areas vary acoustically and really can't duplicate a
concert hall or your local live music hot spot.

I've played with audio stuff for years but have pretty much lost
interest in it. I am cleaning out our house and you wouldn't believe
the gear I am tossing. Came across a big box *full* of directional
audio connects that must have cost a fortune to accumulate over the
years. Problem is, I never bought into the "directional" BS to begin
with. The idea is that the capacitive reactance changes along it's
length and the directional cables compensate for any losses.
My problem with that is that at audio frequencies there is *no*
capacitive or inductive reactance generated anyway. At higher freqs ..
like RF ... yes, the transmission line becomes reactive to frequency but
not at audio freqs.



If it sounds good to me, I'm happy with it.


Same with me. I used to be driven to try to achieve the cleanest, most
accurate sound I could but over the years it just doesn't get me excited
anymore. There's an often unnoticed equalization that takes place in
what we think we hear. We can listen to a song that we know well on one
inch computer speakers and our brain will put in what the speakers can't
produce.

My favorite Telarc CD
 

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:28:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 6:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:28:52 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:38:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/17/16 12:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2016 12:11 PM, John H. wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxGQ5t4lvI

Enjoy.


Telarc has put out a number of Super Audio CD's, this being one of them.

Hopefully, you have a Super Audio CD player (Sony) and
amplifier/receiver that
will accept it's 6 channel output with each channel having a dedicated,
discrete input. The amp/receiver must be then put in direct, 6 channel
mode, (often called "Multi-Channel Input" driving a main left, main
right, center, left rear, right rear and subwoofer. Most Telarc SACD
are hybrid, meaning they will also play on a conventional CD player but
you will lose superior fidelity of a SACD recording. Conventional,
digital "Surround Sound" ... be it 5.1 or 7.1 is *not* SACD.

In addition, SACD's are recorded completely differently than a regular
CD. It's complicated and hard to explain but it uses phase modulation
rather than amplitude modulation. Basically, it's much like the
fidelity difference between AM and FM radio. Many people don't realize
that AM radio's bandwidth is limited to 10Khz which means it can't
broadcast the full audio frequency spectrum that the human ear can
detect. FM, in addition to being frequency modulated rather than
amplitude modulated has a 200Khz bandwidth.

The only negative about SACD's is the limited number of them available
and the fact that Sony is the only manufacturer of SACD players (last I
knew).




My criteria is how much do the "super" CDs sound like a live concert.
The few I have heard on really good sound systems sound over-engineered
to me, sort of like an AUDI car. They sure as hell don't sound like you
are sitting in the expensive seats at a serious music concert.

BTW .. a true "audiophile" (which I am *not*) would be dismayed at the
sight of a bass or treble control or any other circuit that "colors" the
sound of the recording. I am not that far gone with this stuff. Living
rooms and listening areas vary acoustically and really can't duplicate a
concert hall or your local live music hot spot.

I've played with audio stuff for years but have pretty much lost
interest in it. I am cleaning out our house and you wouldn't believe
the gear I am tossing. Came across a big box *full* of directional
audio connects that must have cost a fortune to accumulate over the
years. Problem is, I never bought into the "directional" BS to begin
with. The idea is that the capacitive reactance changes along it's
length and the directional cables compensate for any losses.
My problem with that is that at audio frequencies there is *no*
capacitive or inductive reactance generated anyway. At higher freqs ..
like RF ... yes, the transmission line becomes reactive to frequency but
not at audio freqs.


I'm in the market for a new computer sound system. The one I've got now doesn't do
justice to the 'normal' Telarc.
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I have some "M-Audio" speakers hooked up to my imac.

Like these:

http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Studio.../dp/B000MUXJCO

They sound pretty good.

Funny, if you scroll down to see the current version, they're cheaper than the
previous version you have. I wonder what the differences are. The reviews for both
seem pretty good.
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