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On 2/10/2016 11:23 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
....not my first choice, and I'm not sure 'Mericans are unbiased enough to vote a New York Jewish Democratic Socialist into office, but I don't have any serious policy issues with him, and this issue is certainly one I favor: Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders called for a constitutional amendment to automatically register all *eligible* voters during a Democratic candidate forum on Friday night. He said he wanted to see legislative reform or “maybe even a constitutional amendment that says that everybody in America who has 18 years of age or older is registered to vote, end of discussion.” Sanders blasted politicians who pass laws making it harder for people to register to vote. States across the country have passed new laws—most pushed by Republicans—that require a photo ID to register to vote or limit when people can register. “People who suppress the vote are political cowards and are undermining democracy,” Sanders told moderator and MSNBC host Rachel Maddow during the forum at Winthrop University in Rock Hill, South Carolina. “What the Republicans are doing is so un-American, it’s outrageous, it is beyond belief,” he said. “If they can’t face a free election, they should get another job.” In his many elections, Sanders said, “it has never occurred to me as a candidate to figure out the way to deny people the right to vote because they might vote against me.” - - - - - Sanders is spot-on...there's very little voter fraud in this country, and the only reason the Repubs are pushing for tougher laws is to limit the vote. I agree. Show your SS card and vote. No problem |
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:49:28 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:35:12 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:23:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: ...not my first choice, and I'm not sure 'Mericans are unbiased enough to vote a New York Jewish Democratic Socialist into office, but I don't have any serious policy issues with him, and this issue is certainly one I favor: Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders called for a constitutional amendment to automatically register all *eligible* voters during a Democratic candidate forum on Friday night. He said he wanted to see legislative reform or “maybe even a constitutional amendment that says that everybody in America who has 18 years of age or older is registered to vote, end of discussion.” Sanders blasted politicians who pass laws making it harder for people to register to vote. States across the country have passed new laws—most pushed by Republicans—that require a photo ID to register to vote or limit when people can register. “People who suppress the vote are political cowards and are undermining democracy,” Sanders told moderator and MSNBC host Rachel Maddow during the forum at Winthrop University in Rock Hill, South Carolina. “What the Republicans are doing is so un-American, it’s outrageous, it is beyond belief,” he said. “If they can’t face a free election, they should get another job.” In his many elections, Sanders said, “it has never occurred to me as a candidate to figure out the way to deny people the right to vote because they might vote against me.” - - - - - Sanders is spot-on...there's very little voter fraud in this country, and the only reason the Repubs are pushing for tougher laws is to limit the vote. Nobody really investigates voter fraud. Our TV station had no problem finding it and even talked to some of the people to verify that they were resident aliens, not citizens but it didn't go anywhere. The answer is simple. The guy who won has no interest in calling into question whether his win was valid and the loser is simply a sore loser. I do find it interesting that the same people who think the government should have the power to require photo IDs for firearm purchases, driving cars, opening bank accounts, buying cigarettes and even buying cold medicine think voters should just be accepted blindly if they just show up. I guess the assumption is that illegal aliens must be democrats. Yup. Well said. I am ready for the national ID card or even my "chip". The idea that you can live anonymously in this country is pretty much gone, if you are not hiding in a cabin in Idaho. I would be happy if I could just lay my hand on the scanner and cash a check, buy stuff, drive a car, carry a gun, get on a plane or vote. I would want the chip to have a very limited range and be able to wear a watch or something that blocks the signal. |
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On 2/10/2016 1:29 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/10/16 1:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2016 11:44 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/10/16 11:35 AM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:23:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: ...not my first choice, and I'm not sure 'Mericans are unbiased enough to vote a New York Jewish Democratic Socialist into office, but I don't have any serious policy issues with him, and this issue is certainly one I favor: Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders called for a constitutional amendment to automatically register all *eligible* voters during a Democratic candidate forum on Friday night. He said he wanted to see legislative reform or “maybe even a constitutional amendment that says that everybody in America who has 18 years of age or older is registered to vote, end of discussion.” Sanders blasted politicians who pass laws making it harder for people to register to vote. States across the country have passed new laws—most pushed by Republicans—that require a photo ID to register to vote or limit when people can register. “People who suppress the vote are political cowards and are undermining democracy,” Sanders told moderator and MSNBC host Rachel Maddow during the forum at Winthrop University in Rock Hill, South Carolina. “What the Republicans are doing is so un-American, it’s outrageous, it is beyond belief,” he said. “If they can’t face a free election, they should get another job.” In his many elections, Sanders said, “it has never occurred to me as a candidate to figure out the way to deny people the right to vote because they might vote against me.” - - - - - Sanders is spot-on...there's very little voter fraud in this country, and the only reason the Repubs are pushing for tougher laws is to limit the vote. Nobody really investigates voter fraud. Our TV station had no problem finding it and even talked to some of the people to verify that they were resident aliens, not citizens but it didn't go anywhere. The answer is simple. The guy who won has no interest in calling into question whether his win was valid and the loser is simply a sore loser. I do find it interesting that the same people who think the government should have the power to require photo IDs for firearm purchases, driving cars, opening bank accounts, buying cigarettes and even buying cold medicine think voters should just be accepted blindly if they just show up. I guess the assumption is that illegal aliens must be democrats. Uh-high, right, of course. The Repubs pushing for it just don't seem to be able to come up with multiple serious occurrences, because "no one really investigates" it. I get it. What Bernie is advocating is simple: if you are qualified to be a registered voter at age 18, you are registered. Has nothing to do with voter ID, because once you are registered, the ID is issued automatically, even if the Republican legislators in your state don't want you to vote. Again, the operative word in Bernie's proposal is "qualified" or "eligible". As long as that is defined as being a US citizen, I have no problem at all with his proposal. I agree..."qualified," and simply defined and enforced, is the key. Interestingly, in the years we have lived in Maryland, I have never been asked to produce an ID to vote. When I go to the precinct, someone at the check-in table looks up my name on a computer printout booklet, says "OK," and hands me the form to hand to the voting machine "keepers." I "registered" when I first applied for a Maryland drivers' license. How did they know what your name was/is? |
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:29:52 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: I agree..."qualified," and simply defined and enforced, is the key. Interestingly, in the years we have lived in Maryland, I have never been asked to produce an ID to vote. When I go to the precinct, someone at the check-in table looks up my name on a computer printout booklet, says "OK," and hands me the form to hand to the voting machine "keepers." I "registered" when I first applied for a Maryland drivers' license. We have to show something with our picture on it but it could be a Sams card, an EBT Id card or a state issued DMV ID card (not a DL). There is a very long list of things that work. The hole in the system is who can get themselves registered in the first place. That is what TV-20 investigated. The problem is the DMV has no way to verify people are citizens. If you show up with a valid out of state license, they automatically swap it with a Florida license and citizenship is not going to be on that out of state DMV record. Some of the people NBC 2 found said they were registered without even being asked to be but they still showed up at the polls.. |
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:14:29 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 2/10/2016 11:23 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ....not my first choice, and I'm not sure 'Mericans are unbiased enough to vote a New York Jewish Democratic Socialist into office, but I don't have any serious policy issues with him, and this issue is certainly one I favor: Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders called for a constitutional amendment to automatically register all *eligible* voters during a Democratic candidate forum on Friday night. He said he wanted to see legislative reform or “maybe even a constitutional amendment that says that everybody in America who has 18 years of age or older is registered to vote, end of discussion.” Sanders blasted politicians who pass laws making it harder for people to register to vote. States across the country have passed new laws—most pushed by Republicans—that require a photo ID to register to vote or limit when people can register. “People who suppress the vote are political cowards and are undermining democracy,” Sanders told moderator and MSNBC host Rachel Maddow during the forum at Winthrop University in Rock Hill, South Carolina. “What the Republicans are doing is so un-American, it’s outrageous, it is beyond belief,” he said. “If they can’t face a free election, they should get another job.” In his many elections, Sanders said, “it has never occurred to me as a candidate to figure out the way to deny people the right to vote because they might vote against me.” - - - - - Sanders is spot-on...there's very little voter fraud in this country, and the only reason the Repubs are pushing for tougher laws is to limit the vote. I agree. Show your SS card and vote. No problem Where would I get that. I have not had a SS card since 1964 (when I lost my wallet in the Potomac). The SS card is not much of an ID anyway. Any kid with a color printer can make one. There is no biometric information on it at all. The last I heard a SS card, a "mica" and a birth certificate was about $500. |
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:41:54 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/10/2016 1:29 PM, Keyser Sze wrote: On 2/10/16 1:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2016 11:44 AM, Keyser Sze wrote: On 2/10/16 11:35 AM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:23:53 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: ...not my first choice, and I'm not sure 'Mericans are unbiased enough to vote a New York Jewish Democratic Socialist into office, but I don't have any serious policy issues with him, and this issue is certainly one I favor: Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders called for a constitutional amendment to automatically register all *eligible* voters during a Democratic candidate forum on Friday night. He said he wanted to see legislative reform or maybe even a constitutional amendment that says that everybody in America who has 18 years of age or older is registered to vote, end of discussion. Sanders blasted politicians who pass laws making it harder for people to register to vote. States across the country have passed new lawsmost pushed by Republicansthat require a photo ID to register to vote or limit when people can register. People who suppress the vote are political cowards and are undermining democracy, Sanders told moderator and MSNBC host Rachel Maddow during the forum at Winthrop University in Rock Hill, South Carolina. What the Republicans are doing is so un-American, its outrageous, it is beyond belief, he said. If they cant face a free election, they should get another job. In his many elections, Sanders said, it has never occurred to me as a candidate to figure out the way to deny people the right to vote because they might vote against me. - - - - - Sanders is spot-on...there's very little voter fraud in this country, and the only reason the Repubs are pushing for tougher laws is to limit the vote. Nobody really investigates voter fraud. Our TV station had no problem finding it and even talked to some of the people to verify that they were resident aliens, not citizens but it didn't go anywhere. The answer is simple. The guy who won has no interest in calling into question whether his win was valid and the loser is simply a sore loser. I do find it interesting that the same people who think the government should have the power to require photo IDs for firearm purchases, driving cars, opening bank accounts, buying cigarettes and even buying cold medicine think voters should just be accepted blindly if they just show up. I guess the assumption is that illegal aliens must be democrats. Uh-high, right, of course. The Repubs pushing for it just don't seem to be able to come up with multiple serious occurrences, because "no one really investigates" it. I get it. What Bernie is advocating is simple: if you are qualified to be a registered voter at age 18, you are registered. Has nothing to do with voter ID, because once you are registered, the ID is issued automatically, even if the Republican legislators in your state don't want you to vote. Again, the operative word in Bernie's proposal is "qualified" or "eligible". As long as that is defined as being a US citizen, I have no problem at all with his proposal. I agree..."qualified," and simply defined and enforced, is the key. Interestingly, in the years we have lived in Maryland, I have never been asked to produce an ID to vote. When I go to the precinct, someone at the check-in table looks up my name on a computer printout booklet, says "OK," and hands me the form to hand to the voting machine "keepers." I "registered" when I first applied for a Maryland drivers' license. How did they know what your name was/is? Harry's story doesn't quite jibe with the Maryland Board of Elections: http://www.elections.state.md.us/vot...dex.html#chap2 But then, who would have expected that it would? -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On 2/10/16 6:16 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:41:54 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 2/10/2016 1:29 PM, Keyser Sze wrote: On 2/10/16 1:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2016 11:44 AM, Keyser Sze wrote: On 2/10/16 11:35 AM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:23:53 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: ...not my first choice, and I'm not sure 'Mericans are unbiased enough to vote a New York Jewish Democratic Socialist into office, but I don't have any serious policy issues with him, and this issue is certainly one I favor: Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders called for a constitutional amendment to automatically register all *eligible* voters during a Democratic candidate forum on Friday night. He said he wanted to see legislative reform or maybe even a constitutional amendment that says that everybody in America who has 18 years of age or older is registered to vote, end of discussion. Sanders blasted politicians who pass laws making it harder for people to register to vote. States across the country have passed new lawsmost pushed by Republicansthat require a photo ID to register to vote or limit when people can register. People who suppress the vote are political cowards and are undermining democracy, Sanders told moderator and MSNBC host Rachel Maddow during the forum at Winthrop University in Rock Hill, South Carolina. What the Republicans are doing is so un-American, its outrageous, it is beyond belief, he said. If they cant face a free election, they should get another job. In his many elections, Sanders said, it has never occurred to me as a candidate to figure out the way to deny people the right to vote because they might vote against me. - - - - - Sanders is spot-on...there's very little voter fraud in this country, and the only reason the Repubs are pushing for tougher laws is to limit the vote. Nobody really investigates voter fraud. Our TV station had no problem finding it and even talked to some of the people to verify that they were resident aliens, not citizens but it didn't go anywhere. The answer is simple. The guy who won has no interest in calling into question whether his win was valid and the loser is simply a sore loser. I do find it interesting that the same people who think the government should have the power to require photo IDs for firearm purchases, driving cars, opening bank accounts, buying cigarettes and even buying cold medicine think voters should just be accepted blindly if they just show up. I guess the assumption is that illegal aliens must be democrats. Uh-high, right, of course. The Repubs pushing for it just don't seem to be able to come up with multiple serious occurrences, because "no one really investigates" it. I get it. What Bernie is advocating is simple: if you are qualified to be a registered voter at age 18, you are registered. Has nothing to do with voter ID, because once you are registered, the ID is issued automatically, even if the Republican legislators in your state don't want you to vote. Again, the operative word in Bernie's proposal is "qualified" or "eligible". As long as that is defined as being a US citizen, I have no problem at all with his proposal. I agree..."qualified," and simply defined and enforced, is the key. Interestingly, in the years we have lived in Maryland, I have never been asked to produce an ID to vote. When I go to the precinct, someone at the check-in table looks up my name on a computer printout booklet, says "OK," and hands me the form to hand to the voting machine "keepers." I "registered" when I first applied for a Maryland drivers' license. How did they know what your name was/is? Harry's story doesn't quite jibe with the Maryland Board of Elections: http://www.elections.state.md.us/vot...dex.html#chap2 But then, who would have expected that it would? -- Oh, please, John Ku Klux Herring, the registration process today likely is different than it was a decade plus ago when we registered. |
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