On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 16:24:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/31/16 3:46 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 13:57:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/31/16 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 00:06:04 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:32:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:35:06 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

Are again available,and they are taking orders Feb 1.

===

I fired an M1 Carbine once in the reserves and was not impressed with
its accuracy. Perhaps it was because we were shooting tracers but
have never had any desire to own one. I'd take an M-14 in a heartbeat
however if they were available at a reasonable price.

Never fired an M1, but would surely take an M14. I loved it.

===

There's a world of difference between an M1 Garand and an M1 carbine.
The Garand shoots almost as well as an M14 but is less convenient to
load and reload.

Without going through the NFA process you are not getting an M14 but
Springfield Armory will sell you an M1A Semi Auto version of the M14.
I paid $600 for mine but that was over 30 years ago. I think they are
more like $1600 now. These are accurized versions of the GI model,
made for people shooting "high power". You can also buy a chinese
knockoff a lot cheaper and they are not horrible if you get one with
the better quality bolt. There were problems with the earlier ones.
You can get a USGI bolt but it may need to be fitted into the receiver
by a gunsmith,

I got the "carbine" thing out of my system with my Ruger 44 mag. I
would like a box magazine for it but I don't shoot it often enough to
make it a problem.


Why would you want a 9 pound rifle?

I like the heft. I very much enjoy shooting the Mosin Nagant.

Maybe you need to exercise a bit more.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Moron. There are many reasons to enjoy shooting a rifle that doesn't
weigh that much. Quicker onto and to hold targets, for example.


You're the one calling the names, so I suppose you're the authority on enjoyment.

Did someone say there was no reason to enjoy shooting a lighter rifle, or is that
just more Krausesheize?

My little grandson absolutely loves shooting his little Marlin Glenfield .22.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 4:24:15 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/16 3:46 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 13:57:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/31/16 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 00:06:04 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:32:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:35:06 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

Are again available,and they are taking orders Feb 1.

===

I fired an M1 Carbine once in the reserves and was not impressed with
its accuracy. Perhaps it was because we were shooting tracers but
have never had any desire to own one. I'd take an M-14 in a heartbeat
however if they were available at a reasonable price.

Never fired an M1, but would surely take an M14. I loved it.

===

There's a world of difference between an M1 Garand and an M1 carbine..
The Garand shoots almost as well as an M14 but is less convenient to
load and reload.

Without going through the NFA process you are not getting an M14 but
Springfield Armory will sell you an M1A Semi Auto version of the M14.
I paid $600 for mine but that was over 30 years ago. I think they are
more like $1600 now. These are accurized versions of the GI model,
made for people shooting "high power". You can also buy a chinese
knockoff a lot cheaper and they are not horrible if you get one with
the better quality bolt. There were problems with the earlier ones.
You can get a USGI bolt but it may need to be fitted into the receiver
by a gunsmith,

I got the "carbine" thing out of my system with my Ruger 44 mag. I
would like a box magazine for it but I don't shoot it often enough to
make it a problem.


Why would you want a 9 pound rifle?

I like the heft. I very much enjoy shooting the Mosin Nagant.

Maybe you need to exercise a bit more.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Moron. There are many reasons to enjoy shooting a rifle that doesn't
weigh that much. Quicker onto and to hold targets, for example.

Do those pop bottles and stumps move around much?

On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 13:57:51 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


Without going through the NFA process you are not getting an M14 but
Springfield Armory will sell you an M1A Semi Auto version of the M14.
I paid $600 for mine but that was over 30 years ago. I think they are
more like $1600 now. These are accurized versions of the GI model,
made for people shooting "high power". You can also buy a chinese
knockoff a lot cheaper and they are not horrible if you get one with
the better quality bolt. There were problems with the earlier ones.
You can get a USGI bolt but it may need to be fitted into the receiver
by a gunsmith,

I got the "carbine" thing out of my system with my Ruger 44 mag. I
would like a box magazine for it but I don't shoot it often enough to
make it a problem.


Why would you want a 9 pound rifle?

Maybe because it makes .308 more pleasant to shoot?

None of us are humping our rifle across France and Germany and our
parents had no problem doing that with a M1 and 200 rounds of ammo,
along with everything else they needed to survive.
Nine pounds, with another few pounds of ammo is not that much to
carry, wherever I plan on going to shoot it. Those extra few ounces
make the recoil a lot more pleasant if you are shooting a man's round.
Maybe you should just be working on your upper body strength. ;-)

On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 16:24:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/16 3:46 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 13:57:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/31/16 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 00:06:04 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:32:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:04:59 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:35:06 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

Are again available,and they are taking orders Feb 1.

===

I fired an M1 Carbine once in the reserves and was not impressed with
its accuracy. Perhaps it was because we were shooting tracers but
have never had any desire to own one. I'd take an M-14 in a heartbeat
however if they were available at a reasonable price.

Never fired an M1, but would surely take an M14. I loved it.

===

There's a world of difference between an M1 Garand and an M1 carbine.
The Garand shoots almost as well as an M14 but is less convenient to
load and reload.

Without going through the NFA process you are not getting an M14 but
Springfield Armory will sell you an M1A Semi Auto version of the M14.
I paid $600 for mine but that was over 30 years ago. I think they are
more like $1600 now. These are accurized versions of the GI model,
made for people shooting "high power". You can also buy a chinese
knockoff a lot cheaper and they are not horrible if you get one with
the better quality bolt. There were problems with the earlier ones.
You can get a USGI bolt but it may need to be fitted into the receiver
by a gunsmith,

I got the "carbine" thing out of my system with my Ruger 44 mag. I
would like a box magazine for it but I don't shoot it often enough to
make it a problem.


Why would you want a 9 pound rifle?

I like the heft. I very much enjoy shooting the Mosin Nagant.

Maybe you need to exercise a bit more.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Moron. There are many reasons to enjoy shooting a rifle that doesn't
weigh that much. Quicker onto and to hold targets, for example.

What are these targets you need to get "on" so quickly? Are those
water bottles trickier than I think?
I have shot a lot of skeet with my 97 winchester "riot gun" and that
is no light weight. (probably more than a pound heavier than my daly)
but it never affected my ability to get on the bird and they are doing
60 miles an hour or more.
It did add to the hustle factor if money was changing hands tho '-)

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/16 3:46 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 13:57:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/31/16 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 00:06:04 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:32:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:04:59 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:35:06 -0800 (PST), Its Me

wrote:

Are again available,and they are taking orders Feb 1.

===

I fired an M1 Carbine once in the reserves and was not impressed
with
its accuracy. Perhaps it was because we were shooting tracers but
have never had any desire to own one. I'd take an M-14 in a
heartbeat
however if they were available at a reasonable price.

Never fired an M1, but would surely take an M14. I loved it.

===

There's a world of difference between an M1 Garand and an M1 carbine.
The Garand shoots almost as well as an M14 but is less convenient to
load and reload.

Without going through the NFA process you are not getting an M14 but
Springfield Armory will sell you an M1A Semi Auto version of the M14.
I paid $600 for mine but that was over 30 years ago. I think they are
more like $1600 now. These are accurized versions of the GI model,
made for people shooting "high power". You can also buy a chinese
knockoff a lot cheaper and they are not horrible if you get one with
the better quality bolt. There were problems with the earlier ones.
You can get a USGI bolt but it may need to be fitted into the receiver
by a gunsmith,

I got the "carbine" thing out of my system with my Ruger 44 mag. I
would like a box magazine for it but I don't shoot it often enough to
make it a problem.


Why would you want a 9 pound rifle?

I like the heft. I very much enjoy shooting the Mosin Nagant.

Maybe you need to exercise a bit more.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Moron. There are many reasons to enjoy shooting a rifle that doesn't
weigh that much. Quicker onto and to hold targets, for example.


The Tavor is perfect for that. Since you don't own one, it's a crappy
gun, eh?

On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 20:34:36 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/16 3:46 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 13:57:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/31/16 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 00:06:04 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:32:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:04:59 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:35:06 -0800 (PST), Its Me

wrote:

Are again available,and they are taking orders Feb 1.

===

I fired an M1 Carbine once in the reserves and was not impressed
with
its accuracy. Perhaps it was because we were shooting tracers but
have never had any desire to own one. I'd take an M-14 in a
heartbeat
however if they were available at a reasonable price.

Never fired an M1, but would surely take an M14. I loved it.

===

There's a world of difference between an M1 Garand and an M1 carbine.
The Garand shoots almost as well as an M14 but is less convenient to
load and reload.

Without going through the NFA process you are not getting an M14 but
Springfield Armory will sell you an M1A Semi Auto version of the M14.
I paid $600 for mine but that was over 30 years ago. I think they are
more like $1600 now. These are accurized versions of the GI model,
made for people shooting "high power". You can also buy a chinese
knockoff a lot cheaper and they are not horrible if you get one with
the better quality bolt. There were problems with the earlier ones.
You can get a USGI bolt but it may need to be fitted into the receiver
by a gunsmith,

I got the "carbine" thing out of my system with my Ruger 44 mag. I
would like a box magazine for it but I don't shoot it often enough to
make it a problem.


Why would you want a 9 pound rifle?

I like the heft. I very much enjoy shooting the Mosin Nagant.

Maybe you need to exercise a bit more.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Moron. There are many reasons to enjoy shooting a rifle that doesn't
weigh that much. Quicker onto and to hold targets, for example.


The Tavor is perfect for that. Since you don't own one, it's a crappy
gun, eh?

If I buy a mini-14, ever, my mini-14 will be a piece of ****, by Harry's standards.
Therefore he'll have to sell his. That should be fun to watch.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 2/2/16 12:47 PM, John H. wrote:

If I buy a mini-14, ever, my mini-14 will be a piece of ****, by Harry's standards.
Therefore he'll have to sell his. That should be fun to watch.
--


My mini-14 is a fun shooter, pretty good plinker up to 100 yards, which
is the longest range I have conveniently near.