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My lazy gun - author unknown
Today I Placed my .357 revolver on the table right next to my front door. I left 6 cartridges beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor's son across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the "stop" sign near the front of my house. After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was quietly sitting there, right where I had left it. It had not moved itself outside. It had not killed anyone. Certainly, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do that. In fact, it had not even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the left and the media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world. The United States is 3rd in Murders Throughout The World. But if you take out just 5 'left-wing' cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, St Louis and New Orleans -- the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the ENTIRE World, for Murders. These 5 Cities are controlled by Democrats. They also have The Toughest Gun Control Laws in the USA. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data, right? Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat. |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:16:43 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
My lazy gun - author unknown Today I Placed my .357 revolver on the table right next to my front door. I left 6 cartridges beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor's son across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the "stop" sign near the front of my house. After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was quietly sitting there, right where I had left it. It had not moved itself outside. It had not killed anyone. Certainly, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do that. In fact, it had not even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the left and the media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world. The United States is 3rd in Murders Throughout The World. But if you take out just 5 'left-wing' cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, St Louis and New Orleans -- the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the ENTIRE World, for Murders. These 5 Cities are controlled by Democrats. They also have The Toughest Gun Control Laws in the USA. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data, right? Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat. OK, I'll try... Maybe the guns in those big, Democrat-controlled cities aren't as lazy as that POS ..357 revolver of yours? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 1/28/16 12:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:16:43 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: My lazy gun - author unknown Today I Placed my .357 revolver on the table right next to my front door. I left 6 cartridges beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor's son across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the "stop" sign near the front of my house. After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was quietly sitting there, right where I had left it. It had not moved itself outside. It had not killed anyone. Certainly, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do that. In fact, it had not even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the left and the media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world. The United States is 3rd in Murders Throughout The World. But if you take out just 5 'left-wing' cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, St Louis and New Orleans -- the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the ENTIRE World, for Murders. These 5 Cities are controlled by Democrats. They also have The Toughest Gun Control Laws in the USA. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data, right? Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat. OK, I'll try... Maybe the guns in those big, Democrat-controlled cities aren't as lazy as that POS .357 revolver of yours? -- Ban idiots, not guns! For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The leading states, in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# |
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On 1/28/2016 1:31 PM, Keyser Sze wrote:
The United States is 3rd in Murders Throughout The World. But if you take out just 5 'left-wing' cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, St Louis and New Orleans -- the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the ENTIRE World, for Murders. These 5 Cities are controlled by Democrats. They also have The Toughest Gun Control Laws in the USA. Is this true? |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 1/28/16 12:28 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:16:43 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: My lazy gun - author unknown Today I Placed my .357 revolver on the table right next to my front door. I left 6 cartridges beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor's son across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the "stop" sign near the front of my house. After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was quietly sitting there, right where I had left it. It had not moved itself outside. It had not killed anyone. Certainly, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do that. In fact, it had not even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the left and the media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world. The United States is 3rd in Murders Throughout The World. But if you take out just 5 'left-wing' cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, St Louis and New Orleans -- the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the ENTIRE World, for Murders. These 5 Cities are controlled by Democrats. They also have The Toughest Gun Control Laws in the USA. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data, right? Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat. OK, I'll try... Maybe the guns in those big, Democrat-controlled cities aren't as lazy as that POS .357 revolver of yours? -- Ban idiots, not guns! For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The leading states, in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# So what? The discussion was about the five left-wing cities that bring this country from almost the bottom to almost the top of world-wide murder list. Pay attention. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) |
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On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The "leading states," in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) Yeah, it seems if you bunch up a lot of democratic voters in a big city in a heavily populated northern state and let them kill each other at a rate of hundreds or even over a thousand a year it's no big deal. But you have 30 gun deaths in a year in Alaska and suddenly gun violence is a red state thing. Uh-Huh. |
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On 1/28/16 3:55 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) Gun deaths are gun deaths are gun deaths. |
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On 1/28/16 3:55 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) You guys really don't give a ****, one way or the other, other than to drop statistics. |
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On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 4:16:51 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:55:28 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The "leading states," in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) Well, I guess by golly that'll shut him up for a while! -- Ban idiots, not guns! Hilarious... his numbers came from the Kaiser foundation... a liberal propaganda "think tank". Their political contributions from 2003-2010: Foundation Contributions Republicans Democrats Kaiser Family Foundation 49,500 0.00% 98.00% |
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On 1/28/16 3:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. Are those who die by the gun any deader no matter the cause? |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:30:43 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 1/28/16 3:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The leading states, in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) Gun deaths are gun deaths are gun deaths. Owls are owls are owls. How are they? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:31:41 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 1/28/16 3:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The leading states, in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) You guys really don't give a ****, one way or the other, other than to drop statistics. I could have sworn *you* started dropping the gun death statistics. No? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:32:16 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 1/28/16 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The leading states, in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. Are those who die by the gun any deader no matter the cause? Are those owls still down there by the creek? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 1/28/16 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:32:16 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: On 1/28/16 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The leading states, in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. Are those who die by the gun any deader no matter the cause? Are those owls still down there by the creek? -- Ban idiots, not guns! Lately, we've had a couple of Cooper's Hawks in the back yard. |
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On 1/28/16 3:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: On 1/28/16 12:28 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:16:43 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: My lazy gun - author unknown Today I Placed my .357 revolver on the table right next to my front door. I left 6 cartridges beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor's son across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the "stop" sign near the front of my house. After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was quietly sitting there, right where I had left it. It had not moved itself outside. It had not killed anyone. Certainly, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do that. In fact, it had not even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the left and the media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world. The United States is 3rd in Murders Throughout The World. But if you take out just 5 'left-wing' cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, St Louis and New Orleans -- the United States is 4th from the bottom, in the ENTIRE World, for Murders. These 5 Cities are controlled by Democrats. They also have The Toughest Gun Control Laws in the USA. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data, right? Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat. OK, I'll try... Maybe the guns in those big, Democrat-controlled cities aren't as lazy as that POS .357 revolver of yours? -- Ban idiots, not guns! For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The leading states, in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# So what? The discussion was about the five left-wing cities that bring this country from almost the bottom to almost the top of world-wide murder list. Pay attention. -- Ban idiots, not guns! No, that was *your* discussion, and I don't give a flying foch about your attempts to issue orders or control discussions... |
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On 1/28/2016 4:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/28/16 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. Are those who die by the gun any deader no matter the cause? Are you suggesting that the gun death rates in places like Detroit and Chicago would be even higher if the local governments were predominately Republican? |
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On 1/28/16 5:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2016 4:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/28/16 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. Are those who die by the gun any deader no matter the cause? Are you suggesting that the gun death rates in places like Detroit and Chicago would be even higher if the local governments were predominately Republican? Nope. |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:58:18 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 1/28/16 4:41 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:32:16 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: On 1/28/16 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The leading states, in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. Are those who die by the gun any deader no matter the cause? Are those owls still down there by the creek? -- Ban idiots, not guns! Lately, we've had a couple of Cooper's Hawks in the back yard. Gosh, you can put their pictures right up there with the owl pictures, eh? Do you really think someone believes that? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:30:43 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/28/16 3:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) Gun deaths are gun deaths are gun deaths. Why do you say that? If someone decides to commit suicide, the choice of method is inconsequential. I do find it ridiculous that it gets grouped into "gun violence". If the person had a can, it wouldn't even be loud. |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:31:41 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/28/16 3:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) You guys really don't give a ****, one way or the other, other than to drop statistics. You love statistics, that is how this sub thread started. The difference is I actually drilled down on the number a bit to make it more informative instead of just a scary sounding factoid. Should we try to figure out why Alaskans are suicidal? Maybe, but it is pretty well known that 6 months of winter where the sun barely shines and it is too cold to leave the house, can be very depressing. |
Won't someone take just a little nibble?
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:43 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote: On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 4:16:51 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:55:28 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The "leading states," in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) Well, I guess by golly that'll shut him up for a while! -- Ban idiots, not guns! Hilarious... his numbers came from the Kaiser foundation... a liberal propaganda "think tank". Their political contributions from 2003-2010: Foundation Contributions Republicans Democrats Kaiser Family Foundation 49,500 0.00% 98.00% The "numbers" are probably correct but they are lumping all of this into one number and trying to scare people into thinking this represents stranger danger to the average suburbanite. It is almost as bad as lumping drive by drug murders into school shootings and trying to say there were a couple hundred last year. |
Won't someone take just a little nibble?
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:32:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/28/16 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. Are those who die by the gun any deader no matter the cause? .. If people choose to shoot themselves, are they any deader than those who hang themselves, poison themselves or jump off a bridge/building? (the next 3 most common causes) It is more of an indication of how lazy Americans are that we choose a gun. My nephew jumped out of a tree with a rope around his neck because we wouldn't let him have a gun. It was just as effective but more painful for him I suppose. |
Won't someone take just a little nibble?
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:04:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Are you suggesting that the gun death rates in places like Detroit and Chicago would be even higher if the local governments were predominately Republican? Actually we have seen that experiment. When Rudy took over New York City from the Democrats and actually started enforcing the "little" laws, crime, particularly murder plunged, making NYC one of the safest cities instead of one of the most dangerous. Now that we have the bleeding heart liberal mayor, that crime rate is creeping back up again. |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. Evidently 60% were by suicide: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/up...ides.html?_r=0 They were included in Harry's "fact check": Causes of death attributable to firearm mortality include ICD-10 Codes W32-W34, Accidental discharge of firearm; Codes X72-X74, Intentional self-harm by firearm; X93-X95, Assault by firearm; Y22-Y24, Firearm discharge, undetermined intent; and Y35.0, Legal intervention involving firearm discharge. Deaths from injury by firearms exclude deaths due to explosives and other causes indirectly related to firearms. |
Won't someone take just a little nibble?
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:41:04 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:32:16 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: On 1/28/16 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The leading states, in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. Are those who die by the gun any deader no matter the cause? Are those owls still down there by the creek? === Perhaps there weren't any? It's very easy to mistake bats in the belfry for owls by the creek. |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. 80% of Alaska gun deaths are suicide. Also notice the per capita are sparsely populated states. |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:30:43 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/28/16 3:55 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The “leading states,” in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# Just a quick fact or two to put this in perspective, the gun murder rate in Alaska is 2.7 per 100,000. Arizona is 3.6, Montana is 1.2, Wyoming is 0.9 It is 5.7 in Maryland, DC is 16.5 ... with all of those laws. Vermont is the lowest in the country with virtually no gun laws. Cherry picking numbers from a larger statistic base is a dangerous thing. If you want me to look at those "deep south" states, I would end up being called a racist. (just like I would if I looked into those inner city deaths) I still remember the fact that Baltimore still has 304 unsolved murders last year. (out of 355) Gun deaths are gun deaths are gun deaths. Why do you say that? If someone decides to commit suicide, the choice of method is inconsequential. I do find it ridiculous that it gets grouped into "gun violence". If the person had a can, it wouldn't even be loud. I would much rather they shoot themselves instead of suicide by cop, or those who go out and crash their car in to some innocent family committing suicide. |
Won't someone take just a little nibble?
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 20:00:31 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:41:04 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:32:16 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: On 1/28/16 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:31:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: For gun deaths, the "Red" states are the deadliest. Gun Deaths per 100,000 Population Alaska 20.4 Louisiana 19.2 Alabama 16.2 Mississippi 16.1 Wyoming 15.6 Montana 15.4 New Mexico* 14.9 Arizona 14.6 Nevada* 14.5 Arkansas 14.4 The leading states, in terms of gun deaths per 100,000 residents, except for New Mexico and Nevada, were carried by the Republicans in the 2012 presidential race. All the rest of the states in the top 20 were carried by the Republican candidate. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...e-per-100000/# I don't have the time right now but it might be interesting to drill down on what those deaths were and where they occurred. My first question is how many were suicides. 6 months of winter will do that to you ;-) The next question in the southern states is how many were in the big cities. Are those who die by the gun any deader no matter the cause? Are those owls still down there by the creek? === Perhaps there weren't any? It's very easy to mistake bats in the belfry for owls by the creek. I'm sure we'll be seeing his hawk pictures soon. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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