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As the cause for her son being arrested for domestic violence.. What a whore she is. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 2:19:27 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
As the cause for her son being arrested for domestic violence.. What a whore she is. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ Like union members, military personnel do have a higher rate of alcohol abuse and domestic violence. It wasn't too long ago that you were pointing out the same as Palin about the military. Were you a whore then? |
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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 1:19:27 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
As the cause for her son being arrested for domestic violence.. What a whore she is. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ How blatant of you Krause. You should be sympathetic to the poor lad. It'ss not that the poor chap suffered from "afluenza" or some other nonsense. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sarah...ry?id=36405482 |
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12:21 PMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text - Apparently only to you. Everyone else chuckles or yawns. ..... Or ignores... |
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On 1/21/2016 1:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
I posit that your anecdotal experience with one drug addict does not a universal rule make. In the course of her 25 years of professional practice as a licensed psychotherapist my wife has treated hundreds, maybe thousands, of substance abusers. Most went on through recovery and are leading productive lives. Some were not able to kick their habits, be they drugs or booze, regardless of the sort of help they were getting. So, you think this is "normal"? http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624 |
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On 1/21/16 1:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/21/2016 1:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: I posit that your anecdotal experience with one drug addict does not a universal rule make. In the course of her 25 years of professional practice as a licensed psychotherapist my wife has treated hundreds, maybe thousands, of substance abusers. Most went on through recovery and are leading productive lives. Some were not able to kick their habits, be they drugs or booze, regardless of the sort of help they were getting. So, you think this is "normal"? http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624 Apparently it is the "new" normal, but I don't have any particular opinion on it. I think it is at least partly due to the heavy TV advertising by pharma companies, and the easy willingness of some physicians to prescribe. |
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On 1/21/2016 1:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
I posit that your anecdotal experience with one drug addict does not a universal rule make. In the course of her 25 years of professional practice as a licensed psychotherapist my wife has treated hundreds, maybe thousands, of substance abusers. Most went on through recovery and are leading productive lives. Some were not able to kick their habits, be they drugs or booze, regardless of the sort of help they were getting. The Palin family's continuous problems are of interest because of Mama Sarah's self-righteous posturing and lack of mothering skills or interest. "Empathy stops here", uh? |
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On 1/21/16 1:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/21/2016 1:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: I posit that your anecdotal experience with one drug addict does not a universal rule make. In the course of her 25 years of professional practice as a licensed psychotherapist my wife has treated hundreds, maybe thousands, of substance abusers. Most went on through recovery and are leading productive lives. Some were not able to kick their habits, be they drugs or booze, regardless of the sort of help they were getting. The Palin family's continuous problems are of interest because of Mama Sarah's self-righteous posturing and lack of mothering skills or interest. "Empathy stops here", uh? Perhaps you should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LPR7DktumA |
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On 1/21/2016 1:36 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/21/16 1:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 1:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: I posit that your anecdotal experience with one drug addict does not a universal rule make. In the course of her 25 years of professional practice as a licensed psychotherapist my wife has treated hundreds, maybe thousands, of substance abusers. Most went on through recovery and are leading productive lives. Some were not able to kick their habits, be they drugs or booze, regardless of the sort of help they were getting. So, you think this is "normal"? http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624 Apparently it is the "new" normal, but I don't have any particular opinion on it. I think it is at least partly due to the heavy TV advertising by pharma companies, and the easy willingness of some physicians to prescribe. Thank god your psychobabble mama can't write scrips. |
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:24:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: So what? Every minute of the day approximately 20 people in the USA is a victim of domestic violence. It's not unique to the Palin family. They are not super humans. It's not right, of course, but to single out one family's problems for political purposes isn't right either. If Palin's son is guilty, he should face the music. If he has military related problems, he should also get help, although the track record of mental health professionals actually making a difference isn't all that great. Sometimes I think they can cause more problems than they solve. The cure seems to be to drug the person into passivity and that is ironic since it is usually substance abuse that got them into trouble in the first place. "Self medicating" is bad but if a doctor prescribes stronger drugs, it is just "medicine". |
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:12:23 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote: I had a friend whose mother was in a nursing home and her doctor had a hard tome regulating her meds. She was a mess. My friend changed her doctor and they agreed to stop ALL her meds and see what happened. She got better. She then was prescribed certain meds to deal with certain conditions. She continued to get better. When you prescribe meds to manage side effects of other meds things can go south fast. One of my oldest friends has a daughter that they are trying to cure with chemistry. It seems that shortly after they get her drug cocktail dialed in, something changes, she goes off on some kind of jag, either self destructive or violent to others, the cops get involved, she goes off for "observation" and they come up with a new drug cocktail that turns her back into a zombie and things are quiet for a while. He also has a mother in law with Alzheimer living with him. I am surprised he still has any sanity at all. |
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On 1/21/2016 1:43 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/21/16 1:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 1:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: I posit that your anecdotal experience with one drug addict does not a universal rule make. In the course of her 25 years of professional practice as a licensed psychotherapist my wife has treated hundreds, maybe thousands, of substance abusers. Most went on through recovery and are leading productive lives. Some were not able to kick their habits, be they drugs or booze, regardless of the sort of help they were getting. The Palin family's continuous problems are of interest because of Mama Sarah's self-righteous posturing and lack of mothering skills or interest. "Empathy stops here", uh? Perhaps you should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LPR7DktumA That's funny as hell. "I think she's speaking in tongues". Ha! Watching it, something dawned on me. Trump is a marketing genius. Sarah makes him look sane and dignified. Maybe it was all planned? |
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On 1/21/16 4:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/21/2016 1:43 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/21/16 1:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 1:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: I posit that your anecdotal experience with one drug addict does not a universal rule make. In the course of her 25 years of professional practice as a licensed psychotherapist my wife has treated hundreds, maybe thousands, of substance abusers. Most went on through recovery and are leading productive lives. Some were not able to kick their habits, be they drugs or booze, regardless of the sort of help they were getting. The Palin family's continuous problems are of interest because of Mama Sarah's self-righteous posturing and lack of mothering skills or interest. "Empathy stops here", uh? Perhaps you should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LPR7DktumA That's funny as hell. "I think she's speaking in tongues". Ha! Watching it, something dawned on me. Trump is a marketing genius. Sarah makes him look sane and dignified. Maybe it was all planned? Perhaps Trump will invite the Governor of Michigan to endorse him... As for Sarah, I think her presence on the 2008 Republican ticket was a major reason why McCain lost. I know Palin has fans here, but it's just hard for me to believe than anyone with a three digit IQ might think her qualified to hold *any* political office. |
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On 1/21/2016 4:43 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/21/16 4:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 1:43 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/21/16 1:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 1:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: I posit that your anecdotal experience with one drug addict does not a universal rule make. In the course of her 25 years of professional practice as a licensed psychotherapist my wife has treated hundreds, maybe thousands, of substance abusers. Most went on through recovery and are leading productive lives. Some were not able to kick their habits, be they drugs or booze, regardless of the sort of help they were getting. The Palin family's continuous problems are of interest because of Mama Sarah's self-righteous posturing and lack of mothering skills or interest. "Empathy stops here", uh? Perhaps you should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LPR7DktumA That's funny as hell. "I think she's speaking in tongues". Ha! Watching it, something dawned on me. Trump is a marketing genius. Sarah makes him look sane and dignified. Maybe it was all planned? Perhaps Trump will invite the Governor of Michigan to endorse him... As for Sarah, I think her presence on the 2008 Republican ticket was a major reason why McCain lost. I know Palin has fans here, but it's just hard for me to believe than anyone with a three digit IQ might think her qualified to hold *any* political office. The only time she impressed me was when she gave her acceptance speech as McCain's pick for VP. I didn't have a clue who she was. I remember watching it on TV and thinking ... Wow, where the hell did she come from? That speech ... obviously written by someone else ... was well delivered and it, along with her popularity rating as Gov., caught a lot of people's attention. That was it though. Every time she opened her mouth after that she made a fool of herself .... and of McCain. |
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On 1/21/2016 4:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/21/16 4:48 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 2:40 PM, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:24:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So what? Every minute of the day approximately 20 people in the USA is a victim of domestic violence. It's not unique to the Palin family. They are not super humans. It's not right, of course, but to single out one family's problems for political purposes isn't right either. If Palin's son is guilty, he should face the music. If he has military related problems, he should also get help, although the track record of mental health professionals actually making a difference isn't all that great. Sometimes I think they can cause more problems than they solve. The cure seems to be to drug the person into passivity and that is ironic since it is usually substance abuse that got them into trouble in the first place. "Self medicating" is bad but if a doctor prescribes stronger drugs, it is just "medicine". It is hard for me to fathom that so many people now-a-days have mental health issues that require drugs to treat. Seems like being on anti-depressants is the "in" thing. Same with drugging up every other school kid because they have ADHD or ADD. For cripes sakes, kids are *supposed* to be hyperactive and wear their parents out. Their attention spans are short because they are *kids*, not because there is something wrong with them. I agree with Harry. We are being duped by the pharmaceutical industry and the arrangements they have with hospitals and clinics. It's cheaper in many cases for the insurance companies to pay to drug up patients rather than pay for enough pragmatic therapy to help them learn how to control their aberrant behavior. Sometimes, mild forms of drugs help to, for example, take the edge off patients without turning them into near zombies, and the talk therapy can be more effective. But there's no one hat fits all answer with mental illnesses. Don't get me started on this subject. Drugging up so many young kids to cure "aberrant behavior" is a lazy, stupid and selfish practice. We all displayed aberrant behavior from time to time as kids ... sometimes as adults ... but it certainly doesn't mean drugs are required. I was a bit of a creative hell raiser as a kid but my corrective "drug" was a six foot, five inch, 240lb old man. One of his "looks" usually cured the aberrant behavior ... and quickly. |
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:39:29 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/21/2016 4:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/21/16 4:48 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 2:40 PM, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:24:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So what? Every minute of the day approximately 20 people in the USA is a victim of domestic violence. It's not unique to the Palin family. They are not super humans. It's not right, of course, but to single out one family's problems for political purposes isn't right either. If Palin's son is guilty, he should face the music. If he has military related problems, he should also get help, although the track record of mental health professionals actually making a difference isn't all that great. Sometimes I think they can cause more problems than they solve. The cure seems to be to drug the person into passivity and that is ironic since it is usually substance abuse that got them into trouble in the first place. "Self medicating" is bad but if a doctor prescribes stronger drugs, it is just "medicine". It is hard for me to fathom that so many people now-a-days have mental health issues that require drugs to treat. Seems like being on anti-depressants is the "in" thing. Same with drugging up every other school kid because they have ADHD or ADD. For cripes sakes, kids are *supposed* to be hyperactive and wear their parents out. Their attention spans are short because they are *kids*, not because there is something wrong with them. I agree with Harry. We are being duped by the pharmaceutical industry and the arrangements they have with hospitals and clinics. It's cheaper in many cases for the insurance companies to pay to drug up patients rather than pay for enough pragmatic therapy to help them learn how to control their aberrant behavior. Sometimes, mild forms of drugs help to, for example, take the edge off patients without turning them into near zombies, and the talk therapy can be more effective. But there's no one hat fits all answer with mental illnesses. Don't get me started on this subject. Drugging up so many young kids to cure "aberrant behavior" is a lazy, stupid and selfish practice. We all displayed aberrant behavior from time to time as kids ... sometimes as adults ... but it certainly doesn't mean drugs are required. I was a bit of a creative hell raiser as a kid but my corrective "drug" was a six foot, five inch, 240lb old man. One of his "looks" usually cured the aberrant behavior ... and quickly. I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:43:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/21/16 4:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 1:43 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/21/16 1:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 1:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: I posit that your anecdotal experience with one drug addict does not a universal rule make. In the course of her 25 years of professional practice as a licensed psychotherapist my wife has treated hundreds, maybe thousands, of substance abusers. Most went on through recovery and are leading productive lives. Some were not able to kick their habits, be they drugs or booze, regardless of the sort of help they were getting. The Palin family's continuous problems are of interest because of Mama Sarah's self-righteous posturing and lack of mothering skills or interest. "Empathy stops here", uh? Perhaps you should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LPR7DktumA That's funny as hell. "I think she's speaking in tongues". Ha! Watching it, something dawned on me. Trump is a marketing genius. Sarah makes him look sane and dignified. Maybe it was all planned? Perhaps Trump will invite the Governor of Michigan to endorse him... As for Sarah, I think her presence on the 2008 Republican ticket was a major reason why McCain lost. I know Palin has fans here, but it's just hard for me to believe than anyone with a three digit IQ might think her qualified to hold *any* political office. Trump is playing the media like a fiddle. Everything he does gets him more free publicity and in the US, there is no such thing as bad publicity. I think he will use some of the $billion he says he is willing to spend, trying to convince people he is not crazy and the media misrepresented him, using out of context out takes. If Hillary can convince people she is not a crook and Bernie can split the hair between socialist and communist, who knows what donald can do. I am just watching this as a study in how dumb the American voter is and nothing will amaze me. |
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:48:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/21/2016 2:40 PM, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:24:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So what? Every minute of the day approximately 20 people in the USA is a victim of domestic violence. It's not unique to the Palin family. They are not super humans. It's not right, of course, but to single out one family's problems for political purposes isn't right either. If Palin's son is guilty, he should face the music. If he has military related problems, he should also get help, although the track record of mental health professionals actually making a difference isn't all that great. Sometimes I think they can cause more problems than they solve. The cure seems to be to drug the person into passivity and that is ironic since it is usually substance abuse that got them into trouble in the first place. "Self medicating" is bad but if a doctor prescribes stronger drugs, it is just "medicine". It is hard for me to fathom that so many people now-a-days have mental health issues that require drugs to treat. Seems like being on anti-depressants is the "in" thing. Same with drugging up every other school kid because they have ADHD or ADD. For cripes sakes, kids are *supposed* to be hyperactive and wear their parents out. Their attention spans are short because they are *kids*, not because there is something wrong with them. I agree with Harry. We are being duped by the pharmaceutical industry and the arrangements they have with hospitals and clinics. Schools like parents to drug kids because it makes their job easier. They have already convinced the school boards that results are not important. Just making them sit there quietly is the main concern. |
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H.
wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. |
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On 1/21/2016 6:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:39:29 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/21/2016 4:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/21/16 4:48 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 2:40 PM, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:24:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So what? Every minute of the day approximately 20 people in the USA is a victim of domestic violence. It's not unique to the Palin family. They are not super humans. It's not right, of course, but to single out one family's problems for political purposes isn't right either. If Palin's son is guilty, he should face the music. If he has military related problems, he should also get help, although the track record of mental health professionals actually making a difference isn't all that great. Sometimes I think they can cause more problems than they solve. The cure seems to be to drug the person into passivity and that is ironic since it is usually substance abuse that got them into trouble in the first place. "Self medicating" is bad but if a doctor prescribes stronger drugs, it is just "medicine". It is hard for me to fathom that so many people now-a-days have mental health issues that require drugs to treat. Seems like being on anti-depressants is the "in" thing. Same with drugging up every other school kid because they have ADHD or ADD. For cripes sakes, kids are *supposed* to be hyperactive and wear their parents out. Their attention spans are short because they are *kids*, not because there is something wrong with them. I agree with Harry. We are being duped by the pharmaceutical industry and the arrangements they have with hospitals and clinics. It's cheaper in many cases for the insurance companies to pay to drug up patients rather than pay for enough pragmatic therapy to help them learn how to control their aberrant behavior. Sometimes, mild forms of drugs help to, for example, take the edge off patients without turning them into near zombies, and the talk therapy can be more effective. But there's no one hat fits all answer with mental illnesses. Don't get me started on this subject. Drugging up so many young kids to cure "aberrant behavior" is a lazy, stupid and selfish practice. We all displayed aberrant behavior from time to time as kids ... sometimes as adults ... but it certainly doesn't mean drugs are required. I was a bit of a creative hell raiser as a kid but my corrective "drug" was a six foot, five inch, 240lb old man. One of his "looks" usually cured the aberrant behavior ... and quickly. I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. I am sure there are some cases where medication is needed but I think it's a fraction of what is being diagnosed and prescribed. Common sense has become obsolete in many cases. |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:36:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/21/2016 6:08 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:39:29 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/21/2016 4:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/21/16 4:48 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2016 2:40 PM, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:24:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So what? Every minute of the day approximately 20 people in the USA is a victim of domestic violence. It's not unique to the Palin family. They are not super humans. It's not right, of course, but to single out one family's problems for political purposes isn't right either. If Palin's son is guilty, he should face the music. If he has military related problems, he should also get help, although the track record of mental health professionals actually making a difference isn't all that great. Sometimes I think they can cause more problems than they solve. The cure seems to be to drug the person into passivity and that is ironic since it is usually substance abuse that got them into trouble in the first place. "Self medicating" is bad but if a doctor prescribes stronger drugs, it is just "medicine". It is hard for me to fathom that so many people now-a-days have mental health issues that require drugs to treat. Seems like being on anti-depressants is the "in" thing. Same with drugging up every other school kid because they have ADHD or ADD. For cripes sakes, kids are *supposed* to be hyperactive and wear their parents out. Their attention spans are short because they are *kids*, not because there is something wrong with them. I agree with Harry. We are being duped by the pharmaceutical industry and the arrangements they have with hospitals and clinics. It's cheaper in many cases for the insurance companies to pay to drug up patients rather than pay for enough pragmatic therapy to help them learn how to control their aberrant behavior. Sometimes, mild forms of drugs help to, for example, take the edge off patients without turning them into near zombies, and the talk therapy can be more effective. But there's no one hat fits all answer with mental illnesses. Don't get me started on this subject. Drugging up so many young kids to cure "aberrant behavior" is a lazy, stupid and selfish practice. We all displayed aberrant behavior from time to time as kids ... sometimes as adults ... but it certainly doesn't mean drugs are required. I was a bit of a creative hell raiser as a kid but my corrective "drug" was a six foot, five inch, 240lb old man. One of his "looks" usually cured the aberrant behavior ... and quickly. I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. I am sure there are some cases where medication is needed but I think it's a fraction of what is being diagnosed and prescribed. Common sense has become obsolete in many cases. My oldest grandson (18) definitely needs the medication. Without it he can't control himself, and he knows it. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. |
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On 1/22/16 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. What percentage of kids are being diagnosed that way? 1%, 5%, more? |
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On 1/22/2016 10:34 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/16 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. What percentage of kids are being diagnosed that way? 1%, 5%, more? I don't know but ask any parent with kids in junior high school and I think you find the situation is far more prevalent than you would imagine. As old farts we tend to drift away from what is going on in schools today. |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:34:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/22/16 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. What percentage of kids are being diagnosed that way? 1%, 5%, more? So what is 1% of middle schoolers? (206,050 kids in 2012- US census bureau) |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:32:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. If I were a parent and a teacher said something like that to me, I'd have her ass in front of the school administration for stepping way out of bounds. There is no way I'd ever have recommended anything like that to a parent. And, if I had, my principal would have had my ass for breakfast. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:34:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/16 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. What percentage of kids are being diagnosed that way? 1%, 5%, more? Are you admitting there is something you don't know? Go upstairs and ask the expert. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:38:51 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/22/2016 10:34 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/16 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. What percentage of kids are being diagnosed that way? 1%, 5%, more? I don't know but ask any parent with kids in junior high school and I think you find the situation is far more prevalent than you would imagine. As old farts we tend to drift away from what is going on in schools today. Approximately 11% of children 4-17 years of age (6.4 million) have been diagnosed with ADHD as of 2011. The percentage of children with an ADHD diagnosis continues to increase, from 7.8% in 2003 to 9.5% in 2007 and to 11.0% in 2011. Data and Statistics | ADHD | NCBDDD | CDC -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 1/22/2016 2:00 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:38:51 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/22/2016 10:34 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/16 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. What percentage of kids are being diagnosed that way? 1%, 5%, more? I don't know but ask any parent with kids in junior high school and I think you find the situation is far more prevalent than you would imagine. As old farts we tend to drift away from what is going on in schools today. Approximately 11% of children 4-17 years of age (6.4 million) have been diagnosed with ADHD as of 2011. The percentage of children with an ADHD diagnosis continues to increase, from 7.8% in 2003 to 9.5% in 2007 and to 11.0% in 2011. Data and Statistics | ADHD | NCBDDD | CDC Those are extraordinary numbers. |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 16:11:52 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/22/2016 2:00 PM, John H. wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:38:51 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/22/2016 10:34 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/16 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. What percentage of kids are being diagnosed that way? 1%, 5%, more? I don't know but ask any parent with kids in junior high school and I think you find the situation is far more prevalent than you would imagine. As old farts we tend to drift away from what is going on in schools today. Approximately 11% of children 4-17 years of age (6.4 million) have been diagnosed with ADHD as of 2011. The percentage of children with an ADHD diagnosis continues to increase, from 7.8% in 2003 to 9.5% in 2007 and to 11.0% in 2011. Data and Statistics | ADHD | NCBDDD | CDC Those are extraordinary numbers. I'll bet the percent is higher now. I think it's catchy, and a good way for doctors and drugmakers to rake in a few bucks. At an increase of about 1.5% every four years, it'd be about 12.5% now. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 16:18:06 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 16:11:52 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/22/2016 2:00 PM, John H. wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:38:51 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/22/2016 10:34 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/16 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. What percentage of kids are being diagnosed that way? 1%, 5%, more? I don't know but ask any parent with kids in junior high school and I think you find the situation is far more prevalent than you would imagine. As old farts we tend to drift away from what is going on in schools today. Approximately 11% of children 4-17 years of age (6.4 million) have been diagnosed with ADHD as of 2011. The percentage of children with an ADHD diagnosis continues to increase, from 7.8% in 2003 to 9.5% in 2007 and to 11.0% in 2011. Data and Statistics | ADHD | NCBDDD | CDC Those are extraordinary numbers. I'll bet the percent is higher now. I think it's catchy, and a good way for doctors and drugmakers to rake in a few bucks. At an increase of about 1.5% every four years, it'd be about 12.5% now. === Have there been any controlled studies of before and after school performance? Or against a control group with the same diagnosis taking a placebo? |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 17:50:31 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 16:18:06 -0500, John H. wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 16:11:52 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/22/2016 2:00 PM, John H. wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:38:51 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/22/2016 10:34 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/16 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/22/2016 7:53 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:22:33 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:08:27 -0500, John H. wrote: I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct either. I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another narcissistic ploy for attention. The thing that bothers me the most about this is that most of the people who shaped our history probably would have been called ADD in school and drugged. In the years that I taught, I never experienced the school putting pressure on the parents to drug their kids. Unless the counsellors were getting the parents on the sly, I don't know when it would be taking place. I think it's the teacher complaining to the parents about behavior/homework, and then the parents asking a doctor what they should do about it, instead of putting in the effort to fix the problem themselves. I've witnessed just the opposite. The school systems and even individual teachers are diagnosing kids and recommending to the parents that they be put on medication. Went through this with my daughter and her oldest kid. One of his teachers talked to her about it and even admitted that she herself (the teacher) was on medication for adult ADD. My daughter took him to his doctor and the doctor got bull ****. The kid (my grandson) was a perfectly normal, typical young adolescent going through the process of growing up. That f'in 24 year old teacher should be fired. That was about 5 years ago. He has since graduated from high school, is attending a trade school, working and is doing just fine. What percentage of kids are being diagnosed that way? 1%, 5%, more? I don't know but ask any parent with kids in junior high school and I think you find the situation is far more prevalent than you would imagine. As old farts we tend to drift away from what is going on in schools today. Approximately 11% of children 4-17 years of age (6.4 million) have been diagnosed with ADHD as of 2011. The percentage of children with an ADHD diagnosis continues to increase, from 7.8% in 2003 to 9.5% in 2007 and to 11.0% in 2011. Data and Statistics | ADHD | NCBDDD | CDC Those are extraordinary numbers. I'll bet the percent is higher now. I think it's catchy, and a good way for doctors and drugmakers to rake in a few bucks. At an increase of about 1.5% every four years, it'd be about 12.5% now. === Have there been any controlled studies of before and after school performance? Or against a control group with the same diagnosis taking a placebo? There are a lot of studies of the effects of methylphenidate on ADD and ADHD children, but it's hard to find a long-term double blind study with and without the medication. This one was interesting. Kinda shows a bias towards the drug (methylphenidate). "Results: We included 62 randomized trials that involved a total of 2897 participants with a primary diagnosis of ADD (e.g., with or without hyperactivity). The median age of trial participants was 8.7 years, and the median “percent male” composition of trials was 88.1%. Most studies used a crossover design. Using the scores from 2 separate indices, this collection of trials exhibited low quality. Interventions lasted, on average, 3 weeks, with no trial lasting longer than 28 weeks. Each primary outcome (hyperactivity index) demonstrated a significant effect of methylphenidate (effect size reported by teacher 0.78, 95% confidence interval [CI] 0.64–0.91; effect size reported by parent 0.54, 95% CI 0.40–0.67). However, these apparent beneficial effects are tempered by a strong indication of publication bias and the lack of robustness of the findings, especially those involving core ADD features. Methylphenidate also has an adverse event profile that requires consideration. For example, clinicians only need to treat 4 children to identify an episode of decreased appetite. " http://www.cmaj.ca/content/165/11/1475.short -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 08:39:55 -0500, John H.
wrote: "Results: We included 62 randomized trials that involved a total of 2897 participants with a primary diagnosis of ADD (e.g., with or without hyperactivity). The median age of trial participants was 8.7 years, and the median “percent male†composition of trials was 88.1%. Most studies used a crossover design. Using the scores from 2 separate indices, this collection of trials exhibited low quality. Interventions lasted, on average, 3 weeks, with no trial lasting longer than 28 weeks. Each primary outcome (hyperactivity index) demonstrated a significant effect of methylphenidate (effect size reported by teacher 0.78, 95% confidence interval [CI] 0.64–0.91; effect size reported by parent 0.54, 95% CI 0.40–0.67). However, these apparent beneficial effects are tempered by a strong indication of publication bias and the lack of robustness of the findings, especially those involving core ADD features. Methylphenidate also has an adverse event profile that requires consideration. For example, clinicians only need to treat 4 children to identify an episode of decreased appetite. " http://www.cmaj.ca/content/165/11/1475.short Speed kills, whether you get it from the doctor or from a biker on the street. ADD drugs are the gateway to crank just as the "oxy" pain killers are the gateway to smack. |
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 10:50:03 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 08:39:55 -0500, John H. wrote: "Results: We included 62 randomized trials that involved a total of 2897 participants with a primary diagnosis of ADD (e.g., with or without hyperactivity). The median age of trial participants was 8.7 years, and the median “percent male” composition of trials was 88.1%. Most studies used a crossover design. Using the scores from 2 separate indices, this collection of trials exhibited low quality. Interventions lasted, on average, 3 weeks, with no trial lasting longer than 28 weeks. Each primary outcome (hyperactivity index) demonstrated a significant effect of methylphenidate (effect size reported by teacher 0.78, 95% confidence interval [CI] 0.64–0.91; effect size reported by parent 0.54, 95% CI 0.40–0.67). However, these apparent beneficial effects are tempered by a strong indication of publication bias and the lack of robustness of the findings, especially those involving core ADD features. Methylphenidate also has an adverse event profile that requires consideration. For example, clinicians only need to treat 4 children to identify an episode of decreased appetite. " http://www.cmaj.ca/content/165/11/1475.short Speed kills, whether you get it from the doctor or from a biker on the street. ADD drugs are the gateway to crank just as the "oxy" pain killers are the gateway to smack. The best line: "However, these apparent beneficial effects are tempered by a strong indication of publication bias and the lack of robustness of the findings, especially those involving core ADD features." -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 17:00:59 -0500, John H.
wrote: I've always had good treatment at VA hospitals. But, that was once I got into the hospital. Having a VA card with 'Service Connected' thereon is a big help. It still takes over two months to get an audiology appointment. I asked about an orthopedic appointment when I was last there. The wait time for that was over three months. That wait time would be much, much longer if I had to add the time it takes to file a claim and get into the system in the first place. === You're in sort of a microcosm of the single payer, government run system they have in Canada. Everything that is not a life threatening issue is rationed. |
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