On 1/18/16 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:47:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


There is no shortage of chronic liars running for the GOP nomination,
including the two at the top, and as for giving away the farm, what the
Repugs want to do is get their hands on more of the assets of the middle
class and working poor and hand it over to the rich.


News flash!
Communism has failed every place it was tried and Robin Hood is a
fictional character.
Taking from the rich and giving to the poor only makes everyone poor.


News flash...communism is not an issue, Mr. Civics.

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:14:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/18/16 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:47:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


There is no shortage of chronic liars running for the GOP nomination,
including the two at the top, and as for giving away the farm, what the
Repugs want to do is get their hands on more of the assets of the middle
class and working poor and hand it over to the rich.


News flash!
Communism has failed every place it was tried and Robin Hood is a
fictional character.
Taking from the rich and giving to the poor only makes everyone poor.


News flash...communism is not an issue, Mr. Civics.

Bernie is a communist and you can parse it anywhere you want but it is
true.

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:14:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/18/16 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:47:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


There is no shortage of chronic liars running for the GOP nomination,
including the two at the top, and as for giving away the farm, what the
Repugs want to do is get their hands on more of the assets of the middle
class and working poor and hand it over to the rich.


News flash!
Communism has failed every place it was tried and Robin Hood is a
fictional character.
Taking from the rich and giving to the poor only makes everyone poor.


News flash...communism is not an issue, Mr. Civics.

Bernie is a communist and you can parse it anywhere you want but it is
true.


Bull****. He isn't even as much of a socialist as some of my socialist
friends, Mr. PoliSci.

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:51:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:14:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/18/16 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:47:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


There is no shortage of chronic liars running for the GOP nomination,
including the two at the top, and as for giving away the farm, what the
Repugs want to do is get their hands on more of the assets of the middle
class and working poor and hand it over to the rich.


News flash!
Communism has failed every place it was tried and Robin Hood is a
fictional character.
Taking from the rich and giving to the poor only makes everyone poor.


News flash...communism is not an issue, Mr. Civics.

Bernie is a communist and you can parse it anywhere you want but it is
true.


Bull****. He isn't even as much of a socialist as some of my socialist
friends, Mr. PoliSci.

Who? Karl Marx and Fidel Castro?

If you read the classical definition of Communism, Bernie fits it just
fine.
He wants to redistribute wealth, have the government establish wages,
he thinks the government should control the means of production and
has even suggested nationalizing businesses.

On 1/18/2016 4:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:14:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/18/16 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:47:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


There is no shortage of chronic liars running for the GOP nomination,
including the two at the top, and as for giving away the farm, what the
Repugs want to do is get their hands on more of the assets of the middle
class and working poor and hand it over to the rich.


News flash!
Communism has failed every place it was tried and Robin Hood is a
fictional character.
Taking from the rich and giving to the poor only makes everyone poor.


News flash...communism is not an issue, Mr. Civics.


Bernie is a communist and you can parse it anywhere you want but it is
true.


Disagree. He's a Democratic Socialist. It's a real thing and ideology.
My lawyer friend is also a Democratic Socialist and he and I often
discussed what it means and what the differences are as compared to
"socialism" and "communism."

Bernie is neither a socialist or a communist.

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:11:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



Bernie is a communist and you can parse it anywhere you want but it is
true.


Disagree. He's a Democratic Socialist. It's a real thing and ideology.
My lawyer friend is also a Democratic Socialist and he and I often
discussed what it means and what the differences are as compared to
"socialism" and "communism."

Bernie is neither a socialist or a communist.


You sound like Harry quibbling about the difference between an athirst
and an agnostic.

Sanders's LUP platform called for the nationalization of all U.S.
banks, public ownership of all utilities, and the establishment of a
worker-controlled federal government. Add to that, he wants to
nationalize the entire health care industry and regulate salaries of
the companies that are left, redistributing what he thinks are "excess
profits" he sounds pretty "communist" to me.

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:29:45 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:11:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



Bernie is a communist and you can parse it anywhere you want but it is
true.


Disagree. He's a Democratic Socialist. It's a real thing and ideology.
My lawyer friend is also a Democratic Socialist and he and I often
discussed what it means and what the differences are as compared to
"socialism" and "communism."

Bernie is neither a socialist or a communist.


You sound like Harry quibbling about the difference between an athirst
and an agnostic.

Sanders's LUP platform called for the nationalization of all U.S.
banks, public ownership of all utilities, and the establishment of a
worker-controlled federal government. Add to that, he wants to
nationalize the entire health care industry and regulate salaries of
the companies that are left, redistributing what he thinks are "excess
profits" he sounds pretty "communist" to me.

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It's a heck of a good start. I already live in a city with
essentially a worker controlled government and frankly it leaves a bit
to be desired. The employees union is very strong, they vote, and
there are a lot of them. Any elected official, or high ranking
appointed office, goes up against the union at their own peril.

Canada, our neighbor to the north, has a totally regulated health care
system. Patients hate it because non-emergency care is tightly
rationed. People wait a long time to see specialists, even people
with fractures who need an orthopedic surgeon. It's the same with
people who need cataract surgery or joint replacement. Doctors hate
it because they can't treat their patients the way they should be, and
every thing they do is second guessed by the system. Doctors have
left the system in droves to retire or go to other countries. It is
illegal for patients inside Canada to go outside the system but those
who can afford it go to other countries at their own expense.

That said, Bernie is a likable guy who has a few good ideas, mainly
his plan to get big money and special interests out of politics. Of
the four major candidates at this time, I might be tempted to vote for
him. At least he respects the second ammendment, is not an
inexperienced blow hard ego maniac, is not in bed with the religious
right, and not a proven liar surrounded by past scandals. I think our
system of checks and balances would keep him from nationalizing any
major businesses, and hopefully keep from implementing a nationalized
health care system.

On 1/18/2016 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:11:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



Bernie is a communist and you can parse it anywhere you want but it is
true.


Disagree. He's a Democratic Socialist. It's a real thing and ideology.
My lawyer friend is also a Democratic Socialist and he and I often
discussed what it means and what the differences are as compared to
"socialism" and "communism."

Bernie is neither a socialist or a communist.


You sound like Harry quibbling about the difference between an athirst
and an agnostic.

Sanders's LUP platform called for the nationalization of all U.S.
banks, public ownership of all utilities, and the establishment of a
worker-controlled federal government. Add to that, he wants to
nationalize the entire health care industry and regulate salaries of
the companies that are left, redistributing what he thinks are "excess
profits" he sounds pretty "communist" to me.



His LUP platform? Holy crap Greg. That was in 1971 .. 45 years ago.
He left the LUP (Liberty Union Party) in 1976. His views and
proposals have become much more mainstream now compared to then.

You really need to upgrade your computers and software. :-)

On 1/18/16 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:11:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



Bernie is a communist and you can parse it anywhere you want but it is
true.


Disagree. He's a Democratic Socialist. It's a real thing and ideology.
My lawyer friend is also a Democratic Socialist and he and I often
discussed what it means and what the differences are as compared to
"socialism" and "communism."

Bernie is neither a socialist or a communist.


You sound like Harry quibbling about the difference between an athirst
and an agnostic.


It's only a quibble to those who don't understand the difference.

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 20:08:18 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/18/16 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:11:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



Bernie is a communist and you can parse it anywhere you want but it is
true.


Disagree. He's a Democratic Socialist. It's a real thing and ideology.
My lawyer friend is also a Democratic Socialist and he and I often
discussed what it means and what the differences are as compared to
"socialism" and "communism."

Bernie is neither a socialist or a communist.


You sound like Harry quibbling about the difference between an athirst
and an agnostic.


It's only a quibble to those who don't understand the difference.

Yeah, you sound like one of those "audiophools" who lecture me about
oxygen in speaker wire.