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....to see which of them would have prevented the mass shootings.
http://tinyurl.com/h95cb2d It will be even more interesting to see which of them will make our government bigger! -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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John H. wrote:
...to see which of them would have prevented the mass shootings. http://tinyurl.com/h95cb2d It will be even more interesting to see which of them will make our government bigger! -- Ban idiots, not guns! Yes, rule by fiat. Forget about the other branches of government. |
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 10:01:05 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:
John H. wrote: ...to see which of them would have prevented the mass shootings. http://tinyurl.com/h95cb2d It will be even more interesting to see which of them will make our government bigger! -- Ban idiots, not guns! Yes, rule by fiat. Forget about the other branches of government. I guess he stalled around long enough that he will be out of office before the courts sort this mess out. One thing he said, can be done and should. Prosecute the ones who try to buy guns and are prohibited. That will either put some bad guys in jail or fix the flawed lists. Again we would be fixing a flawed government process in the courts. |
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On 1/1/2016 1:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote: ...to see which of them would have prevented the mass shootings. http://tinyurl.com/h95cb2d It will be even more interesting to see which of them will make our government bigger! -- Ban idiots, not guns! Yes, rule by fiat. Forget about the other branches of government. I hope congress is keeping track of all the O'Bama poop they are going to have to flush when he's retired. |
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On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 07:51:18 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 14:32:37 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 10:01:05 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: John H. wrote: ...to see which of them would have prevented the mass shootings. http://tinyurl.com/h95cb2d It will be even more interesting to see which of them will make our government bigger! -- Ban idiots, not guns! Yes, rule by fiat. Forget about the other branches of government. I guess he stalled around long enough that he will be out of office before the courts sort this mess out. One thing he said, can be done and should. Prosecute the ones who try to buy guns and are prohibited. That will either put some bad guys in jail or fix the flawed lists. Again we would be fixing a flawed government process in the courts. Enforcing the existing laws is a no-brainer. Wonder why it took him so long to think of it. They would rather have the issue than to find a solution. It is politics as usual. |
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
+- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. |
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: +- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida? This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll) Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD. This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not sure. https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download |
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On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: +- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida? This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll) Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD. This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not sure. https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe his story though. |
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:54:41 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: +- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida? This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll) Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD. This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not sure. https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe his story though. I simply cannot imagine not believing something said by Mr. Krause! -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:54:41 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: +- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida? This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll) Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD. This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not sure. https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe his story though. Harry is confusing "easy" with "fast". There is not much that gets turned around "fast" by the federal government, no matter how "easy" it is. If they do turn it around fast, it simply means that they are not really doing anything substantive and they are going to be wrong a lot. You only have to look at tax refunds and medicare payments to see that. The politicians have forced these things to be done fast but they end up with fraud rates well over 15% because they do nothing but write the check. AKA "pay and chase" |
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On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: +- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida? This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll) Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD. This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not sure. https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe his story though. It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible... |
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On 1/3/16 5:57 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: +- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida? This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll) Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD. This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not sure. https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe his story though. It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible... As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more than the state's processing/permit fee. Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in one of those danged liberal arts. |
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On 1/3/2016 6:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/3/16 5:57 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: +- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida? This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll) Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD. This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not sure. https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe his story though. It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible... As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more than the state's processing/permit fee. Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in one of those danged liberal arts. Doubtful. If that were so he would have talked you out of a concealed carry permit and charged you $500. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/3/2016 6:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/3/16 5:57 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: +- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida? This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll) Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD. This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not sure. https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe his story though. It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible... As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more than the state's processing/permit fee. Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in one of those danged liberal arts. Doubtful. If that were so he would have talked you out of a concealed carry permit and charged you $500. Now, that is funny! |
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 18:29:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/3/2016 6:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/3/16 5:57 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: +- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida? This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll) Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD. This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not sure. https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe his story though. It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible... As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more than the state's processing/permit fee. Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in one of those danged liberal arts. Doubtful. If that were so he would have talked you out of a concealed carry permit and charged you $500. I am surprised Harry didn't notice being photographed and fingerprinted. |
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On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 5:09:40 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe his story though. It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible... As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more than the state's processing/permit fee. Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in one of those danged liberal arts. Like I said... |
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On 1/3/16 9:35 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 18:29:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/3/2016 6:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/3/16 5:57 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/2/2016 9:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/16 6:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 15:16:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: +- I suspect the only effect would be a whole lot more people having an FFL, a bigger ATF and more revenue for the government. It still does nothing to stop the illegal trade because it is already illegal. It is not easy to get an FFL... Certainly a lot easier than a CCW in Md. You just need a clean record, a place of business and a check. A friend of mine who runs a nice sporting, tackle, long rifle store and has for 25 years, said it took nearly nine months for his handgun FFL to be processed. I think it is a little more difficult than you think, but maybe not in Florida. Dunno. Are there any real regs in Florida? This is a FEDERAL license. (so "Florida" was just a troll) Nobody said it was FAST, just not that HARD. This is the application. It has not changed much if at all between now and the one I filled out in 1989. The fees sound higher but I am not sure. https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download If Harry could get a Maryland carry permit anyone could get a FFL. Harry says it was easy peasy to get a carry permit. I don't know if I believe his story though. It seems that with money and lawyers anything is possible... As I have stated here many times, my lawyer asked if I wanted a conceal carry permit. I signed my name on the forms where told and that was extent of my involvement in the process. It didn't cost anything more than the state's processing/permit fee. Maybe it was easily done because my lawyer's undergraduate degree was in one of those danged liberal arts. Doubtful. If that were so he would have talked you out of a concealed carry permit and charged you $500. I am surprised Harry didn't notice being photographed and fingerprinted. Oh, well, I thought we were discussing the paperwork. Back then, the prints were done the old fashioned way, with ink. No more. |
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