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[email protected] December 18th 15 11:19 AM

El Faro Flotsam
 
On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff
coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came
up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg

In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be
intact


Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco.
BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater?


Mr. Luddite December 18th 15 11:38 AM

El Faro Flotsam
 
On 12/18/2015 6:19 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff
coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came
up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg

In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be
intact


Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco.
BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater?



Probably "decaf" now.

Decaffeinating coffee and tea was accidentally discovered when some
chests containing tea were swept overboard from a freighter during a
storm. The chests were recovered, the tea leaves were dried and used but
people who drank it noticed they didn't get the "buzz" they usually got.

[email protected] December 18th 15 03:37 PM

El Faro Flotsam
 
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff
coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came
up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg

In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be
intact


Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco.
BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater?


The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up.
Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was
really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube.

[email protected] December 18th 15 03:38 PM

El Faro Flotsam
 
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 06:38:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/18/2015 6:19 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff
coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came
up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg

In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be
intact


Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco.
BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater?



Probably "decaf" now.

Decaffeinating coffee and tea was accidentally discovered when some
chests containing tea were swept overboard from a freighter during a
storm. The chests were recovered, the tea leaves were dried and used but
people who drank it noticed they didn't get the "buzz" they usually got.


These vacuum packs should be pretty much unaffected. As I said in the
other note, they are saying these containers broke up on or pretty
near the surface.

Califbill December 18th 15 04:19 PM

El Faro Flotsam
 
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff
coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came
up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg

In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be
intact


Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco.
BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew
off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater?


The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up.
Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was
really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube.


Maybe not. They are vacuum packed.


[email protected] December 18th 15 05:01 PM

El Faro Flotsam
 
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:19:02 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff
coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came
up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg

In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be
intact

Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco.
BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew
off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater?


The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up.
Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was
really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube.


Maybe not. They are vacuum packed.


The "vacuum" would only exert 14.7 PSI on the contents if it was
perfect and it is far from perfect. At 3 miles down it would be more
like 7000 PSI.

Justan Olphart[_2_] December 18th 15 05:08 PM

El Faro Flotsam
 
On 12/18/2015 12:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:19:02 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff
coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came
up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg

In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be
intact

Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco.
BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew
off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater?

The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up.
Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was
really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube.


Maybe not. They are vacuum packed.


The "vacuum" would only exert 14.7 PSI on the contents if it was
perfect and it is far from perfect. At 3 miles down it would be more
like 7000 PSI.

14.7 should be enough to collapse all the air molecules at sea level.
The vaccum expert, and I mean expert should be along shortly to tell you
the whole story.

John H.[_5_] December 18th 15 06:02 PM

El Faro Flotsam
 
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:08:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 12/18/2015 12:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:19:02 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff
coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came
up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg

In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be
intact

Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco.
BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew
off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater?

The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up.
Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was
really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube.


Maybe not. They are vacuum packed.


The "vacuum" would only exert 14.7 PSI on the contents if it was
perfect and it is far from perfect. At 3 miles down it would be more
like 7000 PSI.

14.7 should be enough to collapse all the air molecules at sea level.
The vaccum expert, and I mean expert should be along shortly to tell you
the whole story.


I like my Hoover upright.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] December 18th 15 06:26 PM

El Faro Flotsam
 
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:02:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:08:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 12/18/2015 12:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:19:02 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff
coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came
up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg

In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be
intact

Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco.
BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew
off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater?

The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up.
Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was
really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube.


Maybe not. They are vacuum packed.

The "vacuum" would only exert 14.7 PSI on the contents if it was
perfect and it is far from perfect. At 3 miles down it would be more
like 7000 PSI.

14.7 should be enough to collapse all the air molecules at sea level.
The vaccum expert, and I mean expert should be along shortly to tell you
the whole story.


I like my Hoover upright.


===

Insert appropriate "really sucks" joke he _________________________

John H.[_5_] December 18th 15 08:21 PM

El Faro Flotsam
 
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:26:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:02:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:08:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 12/18/2015 12:01 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:19:02 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff
coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came
up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg

In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be
intact

Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco.
BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew
off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater?

The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up.
Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was
really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube.


Maybe not. They are vacuum packed.

The "vacuum" would only exert 14.7 PSI on the contents if it was
perfect and it is far from perfect. At 3 miles down it would be more
like 7000 PSI.

14.7 should be enough to collapse all the air molecules at sea level.
The vaccum expert, and I mean expert should be along shortly to tell you
the whole story.


I like my Hoover upright.


===

Insert appropriate "really sucks" joke he _________________________


Hey, at least I stayed on topic!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


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