Did anyone catch the article about TSA in Time Magazine?
They spent over $7 billion a year and when tested, they failed to
detect bombs and weapons 96% of the time.
It seems like about once a month there is a story about someone
getting on a plane with a loaded gun and those are he ones who self
report. This is just a hazy illusion of security based on the
inconvenience factor. We assume if they are making it this
inconvenient for us, it must deter a bad guy.
The agency itself is a boondoggle, worse than the typical government
boondoggle.
The hiring practices do not meet the federal standard, there is
virtually no oversight on their spending and over a third of their
spending is totally unregulated, not going through the normal
appropriations process, using the "transactional loophole".
In spite of all of this "gate" security, they found 73 people on the
no fly list actually working on the planes they were not allowed to
fly on and there is no screening at the employee entrance.

All of this and we are spending time worrying about some kid and his 9
oz drone. No plane has ever hit one and the danger is pretty much
undefined if they did.
A bird strike, (or drone) taking out an engine will make you miss your
connection but pilots are trained to fly on one and it happens far
more often than you would like to think about.
There were 11,000 bird strikes in 2013 and over 140,000 since 1990.
35% of those damaged an engine. One notable case, caused both engines
to fail.
Drone strikes? ZERO.

Nothing?

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:35:03 -0500, wrote:

Did anyone catch the article about TSA in Time Magazine?
They spent over $7 billion a year and when tested, they failed to
detect bombs and weapons 96% of the time.
It seems like about once a month there is a story about someone
getting on a plane with a loaded gun and those are he ones who self
report. This is just a hazy illusion of security based on the
inconvenience factor. We assume if they are making it this
inconvenient for us, it must deter a bad guy.
The agency itself is a boondoggle, worse than the typical government
boondoggle.
The hiring practices do not meet the federal standard, there is
virtually no oversight on their spending and over a third of their
spending is totally unregulated, not going through the normal
appropriations process, using the "transactional loophole".
In spite of all of this "gate" security, they found 73 people on the
no fly list actually working on the planes they were not allowed to
fly on and there is no screening at the employee entrance.

All of this and we are spending time worrying about some kid and his 9
oz drone. No plane has ever hit one and the danger is pretty much
undefined if they did.
A bird strike, (or drone) taking out an engine will make you miss your
connection but pilots are trained to fly on one and it happens far
more often than you would like to think about.
There were 11,000 bird strikes in 2013 and over 140,000 since 1990.
35% of those damaged an engine. One notable case, caused both engines
to fail.
Drone strikes? ZERO.

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:22:11 -0500, wrote:

Nothing?

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:35:03 -0500, wrote:

Did anyone catch the article about TSA in Time Magazine?
They spent over $7 billion a year and when tested, they failed to
detect bombs and weapons 96% of the time.
It seems like about once a month there is a story about someone
getting on a plane with a loaded gun and those are he ones who self
report. This is just a hazy illusion of security based on the
inconvenience factor. We assume if they are making it this
inconvenient for us, it must deter a bad guy.
The agency itself is a boondoggle, worse than the typical government
boondoggle.
The hiring practices do not meet the federal standard, there is
virtually no oversight on their spending and over a third of their
spending is totally unregulated, not going through the normal
appropriations process, using the "transactional loophole".
In spite of all of this "gate" security, they found 73 people on the
no fly list actually working on the planes they were not allowed to
fly on and there is no screening at the employee entrance.

All of this and we are spending time worrying about some kid and his 9
oz drone. No plane has ever hit one and the danger is pretty much
undefined if they did.
A bird strike, (or drone) taking out an engine will make you miss your
connection but pilots are trained to fly on one and it happens far
more often than you would like to think about.
There were 11,000 bird strikes in 2013 and over 140,000 since 1990.
35% of those damaged an engine. One notable case, caused both engines
to fail.
Drone strikes? ZERO.

Nothing this current administration does, or doesn't, surprises me.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:22:11 -0500, wrote:

Nothing?

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:35:03 -0500, wrote:

Did anyone catch the article about TSA in Time Magazine?
They spent over $7 billion a year and when tested, they failed to
detect bombs and weapons 96% of the time.
It seems like about once a month there is a story about someone
getting on a plane with a loaded gun and those are he ones who self
report. This is just a hazy illusion of security based on the
inconvenience factor. We assume if they are making it this
inconvenient for us, it must deter a bad guy.
The agency itself is a boondoggle, worse than the typical government
boondoggle.
The hiring practices do not meet the federal standard, there is
virtually no oversight on their spending and over a third of their
spending is totally unregulated, not going through the normal
appropriations process, using the "transactional loophole".
In spite of all of this "gate" security, they found 73 people on the
no fly list actually working on the planes they were not allowed to
fly on and there is no screening at the employee entrance.

All of this and we are spending time worrying about some kid and his 9
oz drone. No plane has ever hit one and the danger is pretty much
undefined if they did.
A bird strike, (or drone) taking out an engine will make you miss your
connection but pilots are trained to fly on one and it happens far
more often than you would like to think about.
There were 11,000 bird strikes in 2013 and over 140,000 since 1990.
35% of those damaged an engine. One notable case, caused both engines
to fail.
Drone strikes? ZERO.

Nothing this current administration does, or doesn't, surprises me.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


TSA. Trained to steal anything. Or as one flight crew told me, Totally
****ty Attitude.

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:58:13 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:22:11 -0500, wrote:

Nothing?

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:35:03 -0500, wrote:

Did anyone catch the article about TSA in Time Magazine?
They spent over $7 billion a year and when tested, they failed to
detect bombs and weapons 96% of the time.
It seems like about once a month there is a story about someone
getting on a plane with a loaded gun and those are he ones who self
report. This is just a hazy illusion of security based on the
inconvenience factor. We assume if they are making it this
inconvenient for us, it must deter a bad guy.
The agency itself is a boondoggle, worse than the typical government
boondoggle.
The hiring practices do not meet the federal standard, there is
virtually no oversight on their spending and over a third of their
spending is totally unregulated, not going through the normal
appropriations process, using the "transactional loophole".
In spite of all of this "gate" security, they found 73 people on the
no fly list actually working on the planes they were not allowed to
fly on and there is no screening at the employee entrance.

All of this and we are spending time worrying about some kid and his 9
oz drone. No plane has ever hit one and the danger is pretty much
undefined if they did.
A bird strike, (or drone) taking out an engine will make you miss your
connection but pilots are trained to fly on one and it happens far
more often than you would like to think about.
There were 11,000 bird strikes in 2013 and over 140,000 since 1990.
35% of those damaged an engine. One notable case, caused both engines
to fail.
Drone strikes? ZERO.

Nothing this current administration does, or doesn't, surprises me.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


TSA. Trained to steal anything. Or as one flight crew told me, Totally
****ty Attitude.

I am sure it will upset some here but the few airports that have been
allowed to have private security perform better than TSA

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 19:31:13 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:22:11 -0500, wrote:

Nothing?

On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:35:03 -0500, wrote:

Did anyone catch the article about TSA in Time Magazine?
They spent over $7 billion a year and when tested, they failed to
detect bombs and weapons 96% of the time.
It seems like about once a month there is a story about someone
getting on a plane with a loaded gun and those are he ones who self
report. This is just a hazy illusion of security based on the
inconvenience factor. We assume if they are making it this
inconvenient for us, it must deter a bad guy.
The agency itself is a boondoggle, worse than the typical government
boondoggle.
The hiring practices do not meet the federal standard, there is
virtually no oversight on their spending and over a third of their
spending is totally unregulated, not going through the normal
appropriations process, using the "transactional loophole".
In spite of all of this "gate" security, they found 73 people on the
no fly list actually working on the planes they were not allowed to
fly on and there is no screening at the employee entrance.

All of this and we are spending time worrying about some kid and his 9
oz drone. No plane has ever hit one and the danger is pretty much
undefined if they did.
A bird strike, (or drone) taking out an engine will make you miss your
connection but pilots are trained to fly on one and it happens far
more often than you would like to think about.
There were 11,000 bird strikes in 2013 and over 140,000 since 1990.
35% of those damaged an engine. One notable case, caused both engines
to fail.
Drone strikes? ZERO.

Nothing this current administration does, or doesn't, surprises me.

This started in the GWB administration but it is still going on.
The real problem is the "other transaction authority". That started
when NASA was hiding defense projects in the moon shot program and
they didn't want it to show up in appropriations.
It is a loophole that allows an agency to spend virtually unlimited
money without actually having regular congressional oversight.
TSA is just one agency that uses it. They just need to be able to say
it is an emergency.