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Tom Nofinger December 6th 15 02:08 AM

another day another
 
On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 6:51:22 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/5/2015 7:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 12:40:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/5/2015 11:31 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500,

wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:14:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

I did look into it when I was there and I knew lots of cops (state and
county). they all said "forget it, you are not getting one".
The Md state police barracks on Rt 28 (Rockville) was one of my
customers and I was there pretty often when they were trying to get
their system going. I am not even sure most of them knew I wasn't a
state employee.


If Maryland is anything like Massachusetts, the ability to get a
concealed carry permit was once very difficult but, due to towns
becoming subject to increasing lawsuits, the thinking changed.
Here, you must still have a valid reason for the concealed carry permit
but as long as it's reasonable and you pass the background check, they
are usually issued.

The old "for all lawful purposes" is no longer valid up here however.


Keyser Söze December 6th 15 03:36 AM

another day another
 
On 12/5/15 8:07 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 19:51:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


Why would you possibly need a lawyer to get a gun permit?



I didn't. He offered and I said "sure."


Did he get your driver's license for you too?


It's important to know when to use the services of a consultant. Even
you could get a driver's license up here on your own, but, apparently,
not a carry permit.

[email protected] December 6th 15 03:45 AM

another day another
 
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 19:17:15 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

As I stated at the time and several times since, my lawyer handled most
of the task for me. You know, Greg, lawyer...in this case, a guy who
went to college and went to law school, those activities you've many
times here have stated are not worth it.



I know it's none of my business but curiosity compels me to ask:

Why would you possibly need a lawyer to get a gun permit?


===

To help clear his record? Harry has left quite a trail of debris
behind him over the years.

Justan Olphart[_2_] December 6th 15 11:42 AM

another day another
 
On 12/5/2015 7:51 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/5/2015 7:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 12:40:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/5/2015 11:31 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500,

wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:14:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

I did look into it when I was there and I knew lots of cops (state and
county). they all said "forget it, you are not getting one".
The Md state police barracks on Rt 28 (Rockville) was one of my
customers and I was there pretty often when they were trying to get
their system going. I am not even sure most of them knew I wasn't a
state employee.


If Maryland is anything like Massachusetts, the ability to get a
concealed carry permit was once very difficult but, due to towns
becoming subject to increasing lawsuits, the thinking changed.
Here, you must still have a valid reason for the concealed carry permit
but as long as it's reasonable and you pass the background check, they
are usually issued.

The old "for all lawful purposes" is no longer valid up here however.
You must have a specific reason to be issued a concealed carry permit
and it's considered a "may issue" decision by the issuing authority.

A permit to own a handgun for home defense or target practice is
different. It's considered a "Class B" permit (rather than a Class A)
and it is a "shall issue" regulation ... again subject to a background
check. The Class B permit does not allow concealed carry and the
transportation of the gun to a range or whatever must include it being
unloaded and in a locked container in your vehicle.


Florida has a "two move" law. A loaded gun has to be two moves away
from the driver. In a case or even a retention holster in the glove
compartment works. (without the CCW)


As I stated at the time and several times since, my lawyer handled most
of the task for me. You know, Greg, lawyer...in this case, a guy who
went to college and went to law school, those activities you've many
times here have stated are not worth it.



I know it's none of my business but curiosity compels me to ask:

Why would you possibly need a lawyer to get a gun permit?



I didn't. He offered and I said "sure."


Did he do it pro bono? Doubt it.

Justan Olphart[_2_] December 6th 15 11:50 AM

another day another
 
On 12/5/2015 10:36 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 8:07 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 19:51:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


Why would you possibly need a lawyer to get a gun permit?



I didn't. He offered and I said "sure."


Did he get your driver's license for you too?


It's important to know when to use the services of a consultant. Even
you could get a driver's license up here on your own, but, apparently,
not a carry permit.


Apparently your lawyer thought you needed his consulting services and
you agreed. As others have stated here, a typical asshole can't get a
carry permit in MD., without extenuating circumstances and a lawyer's
help. Keep shoveling Mr. Krause.


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