On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:14:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

I did look into it when I was there and I knew lots of cops (state and
county). they all said "forget it, you are not getting one".
The Md state police barracks on Rt 28 (Rockville) was one of my
customers and I was there pretty often when they were trying to get
their system going. I am not even sure most of them knew I wasn't a
state employee.

On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 11:31:54 -0500, wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

===

Most likely both. Harry was always trying to push someone over the
edge in those days. My theory is that he was trying to accumulate
enough threats to justify a CCW. Maybe it worked.

On 12/5/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:14:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

I did look into it when I was there and I knew lots of cops (state and
county). they all said "forget it, you are not getting one".
The Md state police barracks on Rt 28 (Rockville) was one of my
customers and I was there pretty often when they were trying to get
their system going. I am not even sure most of them knew I wasn't a
state employee.


If Maryland is anything like Massachusetts, the ability to get a
concealed carry permit was once very difficult but, due to towns
becoming subject to increasing lawsuits, the thinking changed.
Here, you must still have a valid reason for the concealed carry permit
but as long as it's reasonable and you pass the background check, they
are usually issued.

The old "for all lawful purposes" is no longer valid up here however.
You must have a specific reason to be issued a concealed carry permit
and it's considered a "may issue" decision by the issuing authority.

A permit to own a handgun for home defense or target practice is
different. It's considered a "Class B" permit (rather than a Class A)
and it is a "shall issue" regulation ... again subject to a background
check. The Class B permit does not allow concealed carry and the
transportation of the gun to a range or whatever must include it being
unloaded and in a locked container in your vehicle.

On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 11:31:54 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:14:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

I did look into it when I was there and I knew lots of cops (state and
county). they all said "forget it, you are not getting one".
The Md state police barracks on Rt 28 (Rockville) was one of my
customers and I was there pretty often when they were trying to get
their system going. I am not even sure most of them knew I wasn't a
state employee.

According to 'Harry', Harry has a CCW. Harry has not displayed a whole lot of
integrity around here.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 12:40:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/5/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:14:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

I did look into it when I was there and I knew lots of cops (state and
county). they all said "forget it, you are not getting one".
The Md state police barracks on Rt 28 (Rockville) was one of my
customers and I was there pretty often when they were trying to get
their system going. I am not even sure most of them knew I wasn't a
state employee.


If Maryland is anything like Massachusetts, the ability to get a
concealed carry permit was once very difficult but, due to towns
becoming subject to increasing lawsuits, the thinking changed.
Here, you must still have a valid reason for the concealed carry permit
but as long as it's reasonable and you pass the background check, they
are usually issued.

The old "for all lawful purposes" is no longer valid up here however.
You must have a specific reason to be issued a concealed carry permit
and it's considered a "may issue" decision by the issuing authority.

A permit to own a handgun for home defense or target practice is
different. It's considered a "Class B" permit (rather than a Class A)
and it is a "shall issue" regulation ... again subject to a background
check. The Class B permit does not allow concealed carry and the
transportation of the gun to a range or whatever must include it being
unloaded and in a locked container in your vehicle.


Florida has a "two move" law. A loaded gun has to be two moves away
from the driver. In a case or even a retention holster in the glove
compartment works. (without the CCW)

On 12/5/15 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 12:40:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/5/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:14:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

I did look into it when I was there and I knew lots of cops (state and
county). they all said "forget it, you are not getting one".
The Md state police barracks on Rt 28 (Rockville) was one of my
customers and I was there pretty often when they were trying to get
their system going. I am not even sure most of them knew I wasn't a
state employee.


If Maryland is anything like Massachusetts, the ability to get a
concealed carry permit was once very difficult but, due to towns
becoming subject to increasing lawsuits, the thinking changed.
Here, you must still have a valid reason for the concealed carry permit
but as long as it's reasonable and you pass the background check, they
are usually issued.

The old "for all lawful purposes" is no longer valid up here however.
You must have a specific reason to be issued a concealed carry permit
and it's considered a "may issue" decision by the issuing authority.

A permit to own a handgun for home defense or target practice is
different. It's considered a "Class B" permit (rather than a Class A)
and it is a "shall issue" regulation ... again subject to a background
check. The Class B permit does not allow concealed carry and the
transportation of the gun to a range or whatever must include it being
unloaded and in a locked container in your vehicle.


Florida has a "two move" law. A loaded gun has to be two moves away
from the driver. In a case or even a retention holster in the glove
compartment works. (without the CCW)


As I stated at the time and several times since, my lawyer handled most
of the task for me. You know, Greg, lawyer...in this case, a guy who
went to college and went to law school, those activities you've many
times here have stated are not worth it.

On 12/5/2015 7:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 12:40:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/5/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:14:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

I did look into it when I was there and I knew lots of cops (state and
county). they all said "forget it, you are not getting one".
The Md state police barracks on Rt 28 (Rockville) was one of my
customers and I was there pretty often when they were trying to get
their system going. I am not even sure most of them knew I wasn't a
state employee.


If Maryland is anything like Massachusetts, the ability to get a
concealed carry permit was once very difficult but, due to towns
becoming subject to increasing lawsuits, the thinking changed.
Here, you must still have a valid reason for the concealed carry permit
but as long as it's reasonable and you pass the background check, they
are usually issued.

The old "for all lawful purposes" is no longer valid up here however.
You must have a specific reason to be issued a concealed carry permit
and it's considered a "may issue" decision by the issuing authority.

A permit to own a handgun for home defense or target practice is
different. It's considered a "Class B" permit (rather than a Class A)
and it is a "shall issue" regulation ... again subject to a background
check. The Class B permit does not allow concealed carry and the
transportation of the gun to a range or whatever must include it being
unloaded and in a locked container in your vehicle.


Florida has a "two move" law. A loaded gun has to be two moves away
from the driver. In a case or even a retention holster in the glove
compartment works. (without the CCW)


As I stated at the time and several times since, my lawyer handled most
of the task for me. You know, Greg, lawyer...in this case, a guy who
went to college and went to law school, those activities you've many
times here have stated are not worth it.


I know it's none of my business but curiosity compels me to ask:

Why would you possibly need a lawyer to get a gun permit?

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/5/2015 7:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 12:40:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/5/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:14:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

I did look into it when I was there and I knew lots of cops (state and
county). they all said "forget it, you are not getting one".
The Md state police barracks on Rt 28 (Rockville) was one of my
customers and I was there pretty often when they were trying to get
their system going. I am not even sure most of them knew I wasn't a
state employee.


If Maryland is anything like Massachusetts, the ability to get a
concealed carry permit was once very difficult but, due to towns
becoming subject to increasing lawsuits, the thinking changed.
Here, you must still have a valid reason for the concealed carry permit
but as long as it's reasonable and you pass the background check, they
are usually issued.

The old "for all lawful purposes" is no longer valid up here however.
You must have a specific reason to be issued a concealed carry permit
and it's considered a "may issue" decision by the issuing authority.

A permit to own a handgun for home defense or target practice is
different. It's considered a "Class B" permit (rather than a Class A)
and it is a "shall issue" regulation ... again subject to a background
check. The Class B permit does not allow concealed carry and the
transportation of the gun to a range or whatever must include it being
unloaded and in a locked container in your vehicle.


Florida has a "two move" law. A loaded gun has to be two moves away
from the driver. In a case or even a retention holster in the glove
compartment works. (without the CCW)


As I stated at the time and several times since, my lawyer handled most
of the task for me. You know, Greg, lawyer...in this case, a guy who
went to college and went to law school, those activities you've many
times here have stated are not worth it.


I know it's none of my business but curiosity compels me to ask:

Why would you possibly need a lawyer to get a gun permit?



I didn't. He offered and I said "sure."


--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 19:09:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/5/15 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 12:40:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/5/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:14:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

If cops are so terrible, why then did you go whining
to the CT. cops about Scotty's obviously empty threats?

===

My theory is that he used Scotty as the rationale for a concealed
carry permit.

I never figured out how Harry managed to jump through all the hoops to
get a Md CCW.
According to him, living there is as safe as being in your momma's
arms. As Jack McCoy says "Was he lying then or is he lying now".

I did look into it when I was there and I knew lots of cops (state and
county). they all said "forget it, you are not getting one".
The Md state police barracks on Rt 28 (Rockville) was one of my
customers and I was there pretty often when they were trying to get
their system going. I am not even sure most of them knew I wasn't a
state employee.


If Maryland is anything like Massachusetts, the ability to get a
concealed carry permit was once very difficult but, due to towns
becoming subject to increasing lawsuits, the thinking changed.
Here, you must still have a valid reason for the concealed carry permit
but as long as it's reasonable and you pass the background check, they
are usually issued.

The old "for all lawful purposes" is no longer valid up here however.
You must have a specific reason to be issued a concealed carry permit
and it's considered a "may issue" decision by the issuing authority.

A permit to own a handgun for home defense or target practice is
different. It's considered a "Class B" permit (rather than a Class A)
and it is a "shall issue" regulation ... again subject to a background
check. The Class B permit does not allow concealed carry and the
transportation of the gun to a range or whatever must include it being
unloaded and in a locked container in your vehicle.


Florida has a "two move" law. A loaded gun has to be two moves away
from the driver. In a case or even a retention holster in the glove
compartment works. (without the CCW)


As I stated at the time and several times since, my lawyer handled most
of the task for me. You know, Greg, lawyer...in this case, a guy who
went to college and went to law school, those activities you've many
times here have stated are not worth it.

I know all about lawyers, my son in law is one (along with a BS in
coastal science and an MS in the same general thing). I figure he will
pay off his student loans in about 2045 assuming Hillary or Bernie
don't just tell the tax payers we have to eat it.

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 19:51:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:

Why would you possibly need a lawyer to get a gun permit?



I didn't. He offered and I said "sure."

Did he get your driver's license for you too?