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[email protected] November 29th 15 04:06 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
From Facebook;

Tim suffered a heart attack on Friday and is likely facing at least
one surgery and, for now, an uncertain future. He has been a
bi-vocational minister in the Sailor Springs Christian Church and
elsewhere in the Clay City and Greenup area. I know he and his wife,
Bridget, will appreciate your prayers, along with his daughter,
Krystine, and others in the family.

===

Tim is one heck of a great guy who will do almost anything to help ypu
put. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.

[email protected] November 29th 15 04:09 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:06:16 -0500,
wrote:

Edited;

From Facebook;

Tim suffered a heart attack on Friday and is likely facing at least
one surgery and, for now, an uncertain future. He has been a
bi-vocational minister in the Sailor Springs Christian Church and
elsewhere in the Clay City and Greenup area. I know he and his wife,
Bridget, will appreciate your prayers, along with his daughter,
Krystine, and others in the family.

===

Tim is one heck of a great guy who will do almost anything to help you
out. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.

Mr. Luddite November 29th 15 05:23 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On 11/28/2015 11:06 PM, wrote:
From Facebook;

Tim suffered a heart attack on Friday and is likely facing at least
one surgery and, for now, an uncertain future. He has been a
bi-vocational minister in the Sailor Springs Christian Church and
elsewhere in the Clay City and Greenup area. I know he and his wife,
Bridget, will appreciate your prayers, along with his daughter,
Krystine, and others in the family.

===

Tim is one heck of a great guy who will do almost anything to help ypu
put. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.



This is one of those times I get religious and say a prayer.
Here's to Tim and a speedy, complete recovery.


Tim November 29th 15 10:50 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!

Mr. Luddite November 29th 15 01:04 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On 11/29/2015 5:50 AM, Tim wrote:
Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!


Glad you are ok Tim. Time to lay off the cheese steak subs!



John H.[_5_] November 29th 15 01:33 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:06:16 -0500, wrote:

From Facebook;

Tim suffered a heart attack on Friday and is likely facing at least
one surgery and, for now, an uncertain future. He has been a
bi-vocational minister in the Sailor Springs Christian Church and
elsewhere in the Clay City and Greenup area. I know he and his wife,
Bridget, will appreciate your prayers, along with his daughter,
Krystine, and others in the family.

===

Tim is one heck of a great guy who will do almost anything to help ypu
put. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.


Thanks for the info, Wayne. Today's his birthday also. ****. He sounded fine
Wednesday.

Really bad news. He is a great guy.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] November 29th 15 01:36 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 02:50:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!


Well you must have gone back to sleep, 'cause you're knot answering your damn
telephone.

You better get your ass better if we're going for a ride this spring!

Damn turkey lips.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] November 29th 15 03:00 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Saturday, November 28, 2015 at 11:06:29 PM UTC-5, wrote:
From Facebook;

Tim suffered a heart attack on Friday and is likely facing at least
one surgery and, for now, an uncertain future. He has been a
bi-vocational minister in the Sailor Springs Christian Church and
elsewhere in the Clay City and Greenup area. I know he and his wife,
Bridget, will appreciate your prayers, along with his daughter,
Krystine, and others in the family.

===

Tim is one heck of a great guy who will do almost anything to help ypu
put. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.


Tim had what's called a 'Widomaker' heart attack, with an 80% blockage of the left anterior artery (from what I understand Tim to have said)and total blockage of the other two arteries. More info is he http://myheart.net/articles/the-widowmaker/

He was supposed to get a stint put in this morning, but the docs decided the risk was too great so put the stint in last night. He says he doesn't need anything, but that a few prayers wouldn't hurt. He also sounded in pretty good spirits, even though he's going to have to go on a cardboard diet.

[email protected] November 29th 15 05:56 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 02:50:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!


Good deal, stay healthy. We need a little more balance here. Too many
citiots.

I know a few guys here with the same type of thing (this is Florida,
you don't have to look far for some with just about any malady)
The rehab for the heart thing seems to be exercise and diet. Maybe you
should do more "walking around" hunting and less of that "sit up
against a tree" stuff

Quail are lower in cholesterol than squirrels anyway. ;-)

Get up, move around as soon as you can and get better, we need you.

John H.[_5_] November 29th 15 09:27 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:56:22 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 02:50:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!


Good deal, stay healthy. We need a little more balance here. Too many
citiots.

I know a few guys here with the same type of thing (this is Florida,
you don't have to look far for some with just about any malady)
The rehab for the heart thing seems to be exercise and diet. Maybe you
should do more "walking around" hunting and less of that "sit up
against a tree" stuff

Quail are lower in cholesterol than squirrels anyway. ;-)

Get up, move around as soon as you can and get better, we need you.


....and rabbits are much easier to clean than either one of them.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] November 29th 15 11:53 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:27:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:56:22 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 02:50:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!


Good deal, stay healthy. We need a little more balance here. Too many
citiots.

I know a few guys here with the same type of thing (this is Florida,
you don't have to look far for some with just about any malady)
The rehab for the heart thing seems to be exercise and diet. Maybe you
should do more "walking around" hunting and less of that "sit up
against a tree" stuff

Quail are lower in cholesterol than squirrels anyway. ;-)

Get up, move around as soon as you can and get better, we need you.


...and rabbits are much easier to clean than either one of them.


Quail and woodcock are just more challenging to hit, particularly if
you are too poor for a bird dog. It might be a long walk between
birds.

True North[_2_] November 30th 15 12:11 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
Oh boy.. Tim. I'll certainly be offering prayers for your speedy and complete recovery. You are like an oasis in the bleak barren desert that this group has become. We do need your positive contributions.
A couple of months ago I brought this subject to my doctor. I complained that we didn't have an easily accessible diagnostic program to check us for potential problems like clogged arteries. His response was to change my lifestyle now to head off problems.
Best of luck to you over the next few months.

John H.[_5_] November 30th 15 01:28 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:53:25 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:27:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:56:22 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 02:50:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!

Good deal, stay healthy. We need a little more balance here. Too many
citiots.

I know a few guys here with the same type of thing (this is Florida,
you don't have to look far for some with just about any malady)
The rehab for the heart thing seems to be exercise and diet. Maybe you
should do more "walking around" hunting and less of that "sit up
against a tree" stuff

Quail are lower in cholesterol than squirrels anyway. ;-)

Get up, move around as soon as you can and get better, we need you.


...and rabbits are much easier to clean than either one of them.


Quail and woodcock are just more challenging to hit, particularly if
you are too poor for a bird dog. It might be a long walk between
birds.


I was talking to a farmer down in southern Virginia a few weeks ago. He had some bird
dogs, and we just got to talking about hunting. He said the quail are just about gone
due to the coyotes. He said the same about the deer. The coyotes eat the eggs and
young quail and the young deer. Hell, he was worried a pack of coyotes might get one
of his dogs out wandering by itself.

We used to hunt quail out Rt 50, a few miles outside Fairfax. Now it's just one big
shopping center or townhouse development almost to Winchester. Got quite a few quail
- back in early 70's.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] November 30th 15 02:36 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:28:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:53:25 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:27:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:56:22 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 02:50:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!

Good deal, stay healthy. We need a little more balance here. Too many
citiots.

I know a few guys here with the same type of thing (this is Florida,
you don't have to look far for some with just about any malady)
The rehab for the heart thing seems to be exercise and diet. Maybe you
should do more "walking around" hunting and less of that "sit up
against a tree" stuff

Quail are lower in cholesterol than squirrels anyway. ;-)

Get up, move around as soon as you can and get better, we need you.

...and rabbits are much easier to clean than either one of them.


Quail and woodcock are just more challenging to hit, particularly if
you are too poor for a bird dog. It might be a long walk between
birds.


I was talking to a farmer down in southern Virginia a few weeks ago. He had some bird
dogs, and we just got to talking about hunting. He said the quail are just about gone
due to the coyotes. He said the same about the deer. The coyotes eat the eggs and
young quail and the young deer. Hell, he was worried a pack of coyotes might get one
of his dogs out wandering by itself.

We used to hunt quail out Rt 50, a few miles outside Fairfax. Now it's just one big
shopping center or townhouse development almost to Winchester. Got quite a few quail
- back in early 70's.


I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

John H.[_5_] November 30th 15 01:57 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:28:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:53:25 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:27:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:56:22 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 02:50:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!

Good deal, stay healthy. We need a little more balance here. Too many
citiots.

I know a few guys here with the same type of thing (this is Florida,
you don't have to look far for some with just about any malady)
The rehab for the heart thing seems to be exercise and diet. Maybe you
should do more "walking around" hunting and less of that "sit up
against a tree" stuff

Quail are lower in cholesterol than squirrels anyway. ;-)

Get up, move around as soon as you can and get better, we need you.

...and rabbits are much easier to clean than either one of them.

Quail and woodcock are just more challenging to hit, particularly if
you are too poor for a bird dog. It might be a long walk between
birds.


I was talking to a farmer down in southern Virginia a few weeks ago. He had some bird
dogs, and we just got to talking about hunting. He said the quail are just about gone
due to the coyotes. He said the same about the deer. The coyotes eat the eggs and
young quail and the young deer. Hell, he was worried a pack of coyotes might get one
of his dogs out wandering by itself.

We used to hunt quail out Rt 50, a few miles outside Fairfax. Now it's just one big
shopping center or townhouse development almost to Winchester. Got quite a few quail
- back in early 70's.


I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.


Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] November 30th 15 05:32 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500, wrote:


I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.


Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.


That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.

John H.[_5_] November 30th 15 07:32 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.


Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.


That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.


No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] December 1st 15 12:34 AM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.


That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.


No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.


Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.



Alex[_6_] December 1st 15 01:24 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
True North wrote:
Oh boy.. Tim. I'll certainly be offering prayers for your speedy and complete recovery. You are like an oasis in the bleak barren desert that this group has become. We do need your positive contributions.
A couple of months ago I brought this subject to my doctor. I complained that we didn't have an easily accessible diagnostic program to check us for potential problems like clogged arteries. His response was to change my lifestyle now to head off problems.
Best of luck to you over the next few months.


Leave it to you to interject your bull**** when a guy is down.

True North[_2_] December 1st 15 03:39 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
Ditzy Dan Kruger spews...

"Leave it to you to interject your bull**** when a guy is down."

Always the asshole eh!
Do you ever tire of being a jackass? ( a rhetorical question )

[email protected] December 1st 15 12:47 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 5:50:53 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!


Hang tough, Tim. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Tim December 1st 15 01:25 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 6:47:38 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 5:50:53 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!


Hang tough, Tim. My thoughts and prayers are with you.


Thanks man, this is much appreciated. I don't want to do this again...

Justan Olphart[_2_] December 1st 15 01:34 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On 12/1/2015 8:25 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 6:47:38 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 5:50:53 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!


Hang tough, Tim. My thoughts and prayers are with you.


Thanks man, this is much appreciated. I don't want to do this again...


Well then, you need to stop cookin up John's recipes. :-)

Tim December 1st 15 03:02 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 7:34:08 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/1/2015 8:25 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 6:47:38 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 5:50:53 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!

Hang tough, Tim. My thoughts and prayers are with you.


Thanks man, this is much appreciated. I don't want to do this again...


Well then, you need to stop cookin up John's recipes. :-)


you may have a point there...

John H.[_5_] December 1st 15 05:20 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 19:34:23 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.


No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.


Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.


I'm guessing dump crows are not as smart as farm crows. On my grandfather's farm they
were smart sonsabitches. I had a single-shot .22 - no scope. It's funny because the
damn things would sit on the power lines cawing as we walked to school. But as soon
as I had the rifle they'd never come close.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Mr. Luddite December 1st 15 05:26 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On 12/1/2015 12:20 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 19:34:23 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.

No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.


Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.


I'm guessing dump crows are not as smart as farm crows. On my grandfather's farm they
were smart sonsabitches. I had a single-shot .22 - no scope. It's funny because the
damn things would sit on the power lines cawing as we walked to school. But as soon
as I had the rifle they'd never come close.


Must be related somehow to fly's. Ever notice one can bug the s%&T out
of you until you get a fly swatter? It then disappears.


John H.[_5_] December 1st 15 05:51 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 08:34:08 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 12/1/2015 8:25 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 6:47:38 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 5:50:53 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
Wow thanks guys. Here it it at 4:45am Sunday. And I'm awake because it seems I've slept for a day and 1/2. So far 1 stint then review other options. So far so good I guess. Thanks guys!

Hang tough, Tim. My thoughts and prayers are with you.


Thanks man, this is much appreciated. I don't want to do this again...


Well then, you need to stop cookin up John's recipes. :-)


LMAO!

I told him, leave out the salt and fat. Of course everything will taste like
cardboard!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Keyser Söze December 1st 15 06:09 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On 11/30/15 7:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.


No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.


Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.




Were the crows tasty?

[email protected] December 1st 15 09:23 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 12:26:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/1/2015 12:20 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 19:34:23 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.

No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.

Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.


I'm guessing dump crows are not as smart as farm crows. On my grandfather's farm they
were smart sonsabitches. I had a single-shot .22 - no scope. It's funny because the
damn things would sit on the power lines cawing as we walked to school. But as soon
as I had the rifle they'd never come close.


Must be related somehow to fly's. Ever notice one can bug the s%&T out
of you until you get a fly swatter? It then disappears.




I really think it has more to do with eye contact. When you look at an
animal like you are a predator they can tell the difference and they
get away. I see the same thing with wasps. If you just swat aimlessly
at one, they will end up stinging you but it you actually make a well
targeted motion at them, they fly away. In the case of a paper wasp
nest, there is always a "guard". Identify him and engage him and you
can usually just knock the nest down, unharmed. If you don't engage
him, you will get stung, usually in the back somewhere. That leads to
more stings.

[email protected] December 1st 15 09:24 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 13:09:46 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/30/15 7:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.

No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.


Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.




Were the crows tasty?


My buddy tried one and not so much, same with a pigeon.

Califbill December 1st 15 09:39 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/30/15 7:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.

No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.


Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.




Were the crows tasty?


Used to be bounty on crows.


Keyser Söze December 1st 15 09:46 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On 12/1/15 4:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 13:09:46 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/30/15 7:34 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.

No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.

Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.




Were the crows tasty?


My buddy tried one and not so much, same with a pigeon.


You were shooting animals for *fun*?

[email protected] December 1st 15 10:03 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:46:56 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/1/15 4:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 13:09:46 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/30/15 7:34 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.

No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.

Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.




Were the crows tasty?


My buddy tried one and not so much, same with a pigeon.


You were shooting animals for *fun*?


****'n A.
They were seen as pests and people wanted them dead.
There was supposed to be a bounty on them but we never figured out how
to get it. The Md hunting laws had them listed as "no limit, no closed
season"
These days I imagine there are people who think you shouldn't step on
roaches.

John H.[_5_] December 1st 15 11:08 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 12:26:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 12/1/2015 12:20 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 19:34:23 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.

No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.

Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.


I'm guessing dump crows are not as smart as farm crows. On my grandfather's farm they
were smart sonsabitches. I had a single-shot .22 - no scope. It's funny because the
damn things would sit on the power lines cawing as we walked to school. But as soon
as I had the rifle they'd never come close.


Must be related somehow to fly's. Ever notice one can bug the s%&T out
of you until you get a fly swatter? It then disappears.


That's what I'm saying!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] December 1st 15 11:32 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 16:24:31 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 13:09:46 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/30/15 7:34 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.

No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.

Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.




Were the crows tasty?


My buddy tried one and not so much, same with a pigeon.


We ate a lot of pigeons. They're about like quail with a bit more meat.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] December 1st 15 11:34 PM

Hunting (was something else)
 
On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 17:03:49 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:46:56 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/1/15 4:24 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 13:09:46 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/30/15 7:34 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:32:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:32:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 08:57:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:36:15 -0500,
wrote:

I hunted quail all over Maryland but the best spot was a friend's farm
on the Eastern Shore. I only hunted over dogs once and although it was
very efficient, Over dogs, it is like shooting skeet. I was shooting
skeet at the time and I was thinking it was too easy.
I like walking them down better.
Part of it is the challenge.

Never did it with dogs. My pointer would probably love it though.

That might be fun for the dog but a real bird dog takes a lot of
training. The pair we were hunting over could herd up a covey and hold
them until you called the flush, then they charged the birds and
flushed them away in a "station 7 low house" configuration. Shooting
them seemed too easy to me. I limited out in less than an hour.

Walking them down is a lot more like hunting. You are never sure when
they will flush or which way they will go.

The most challenging is woodcock in heavy cover.

No, my dog's not trained. When I first got her, she'd 'point' robins and hold it
until I said "OK". Now she's gotten used to the birds and shows no interest. She'd
point just like in the pictures, with one paw raised and dead still.

Never hunted woodcock. Wouldn't know what one looked like. Pheasants, pigeons, and
quail is about it as far as birds go. Oh, and crows as a kid. Never shot one. They
seemed to know what a rifle looks like and would stay about a half mile away.

Woodcock is like a quail with a long beak. They live back in the
woods. The first one I kicked surprised the hell out of me but I gave
him a load of #5s anyway. I was expecting a rabbit.
The owner didn't even know they were there.

Back in the olden days we used to shoot crows at the dump (not a real
land fill, just an old country dump) but we made blinds so they would
get close enough. We were still taking shots at 50 yards or more.
My old Remington .22 pump with a 6x Weaver was pretty reliable out to
100 yards.




Were the crows tasty?

My buddy tried one and not so much, same with a pigeon.


You were shooting animals for *fun*?


****'n A.
They were seen as pests and people wanted them dead.
There was supposed to be a bounty on them but we never figured out how
to get it. The Md hunting laws had them listed as "no limit, no closed
season"
These days I imagine there are people who think you shouldn't step on
roaches.


Crows are not farm friendly either, especially if one of the crops is corn. They love
it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] December 5th 15 03:57 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 7:11:10 PM UTC-5, True North wrote:

** You are like an oasis in the bleak barren desert that this group has become.**

Due to you and harry the pig and your useless bull****. We can only hope you keel over and gasp for air, ****FACE.


[email protected] December 5th 15 04:59 AM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:11:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

A couple of months ago I brought this subject to my doctor. I complained that we didn't have an easily accessible diagnostic program to check us for potential problems like clogged arteries. His response was to change my lifestyle now to head off problems.
Best of luck to you over the next few months.


===

There's nothing wrong with changing to a healthier lifestyle but there
are plenty of tests available here in the USA.

True North[_2_] December 5th 15 12:25 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:11:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

A couple of months ago I brought this subject to my doctor. I complained that we didn't have an easily accessible diagnostic program to check us for potential problems like clogged arteries. His response was to change my lifestyle now to head off problems.
Best of luck to you over the next few months.


===

"There's nothing wrong with changing to a healthier lifestyle but there
are plenty of tests available here in the USA."



I'm sure we have most of them here but you have to have some kind of event before you get access to them.
It's almost as if my doctor has to pay for them out of his own pocket. I'd just like to see a complete diagnosis program for any senior who wants one. Might save a life.

Justan Ohlphart December 5th 15 02:46 PM

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 
True North Wrote in message:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:11:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

A couple of months ago I brought this subject to my doctor. I complained that we didn't have an easily accessible diagnostic program to check us for potential problems like clogged arteries. His response was to change my lifestyle now to head off problems.
Best of luck to you over the next few months.


===

"There's nothing wrong with changing to a healthier lifestyle but there
are plenty of tests available here in the USA."



I'm sure we have most of them here but you have to have some kind of event before you get access to them.
It's almost as if my doctor has to pay for them out of his own pocket. I'd just like to see a complete diagnosis program for any senior who wants one. Might save a life.


Tell me again why you choose to live in s socialist country where
the liberal socialist gubmint does everything BUT take proper
care of you?
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