Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 

On 12/5/2015 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 11:33:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/5/2015 11:15 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 04:25:57 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:


On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:11:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

A couple of months ago I brought this subject to my doctor. I complained that we didn't have an easily accessible diagnostic program to check us for potential problems like clogged arteries. His response was to change my lifestyle now to head off problems.
Best of luck to you over the next few months.

===

"There's nothing wrong with changing to a healthier lifestyle but there
are plenty of tests available here in the USA."



I'm sure we have most of them here but you have to have some kind of event before you get access to them.
It's almost as if my doctor has to pay for them out of his own pocket. I'd just like to see a complete diagnosis program for any senior who wants one. Might save a life.

That is one good thing about "pay to play" medicine like we have here.
That stuff is pushed on you whether you want it or not.
I had 2 MRIs for a sore wrist.
It is also why we have the most expensive medical care in the world.
I agree with those who say some of the testing can become excessive.
I suspect the number of lawyers we have has a lot to do with it.
Doctors practice defensive medicine. They want to be in the position
of saying "there was nothing else we could have done" when they get
sued and they get sued a lot. It is a profit center for the lawyers.


I just read a report that only 1 in 14 doctors are sued per year and the
docs win 85% of the time. The cost factor is the concern of being sued
and the mandatory malpractice insurance they must carry. Insurance
companies are the ones raking in the bucks.


That is a huge number. How much do you think car insurance would be if
7% of all drivers had a 5-6 figure accident every year?
Insurance companies are just bookies, scraping their "vig" off of the
claim money, which sets the premium rate.
It does make the idea that insurance companies try to limit claims
seem ludicrous tho. I agree they don't want "unexpected" claims but as
long as they are out in front of the claims with the premiums, they
like claims. It allows them to raise the rates again.
I found out you can get kicked off a jury in a heart beat if you say
"doctors lawyers and insurance companies are a fiscal perpetual motion
machine, raising the cost of everything you do and everything you buy"

When I said that in voir dire, both sides were writing vigorously and
I was out of there.


Years ago if you sprained your ankle, you might wrap a tight brace
around it, hobble around for a couple of weeks and in a month it would
be all better. Now, you get x-rays, MRI's, crutches, wrap a brace
around it, hobble around for a couple of weeks and in a month it's all
better.


I agree. My wrist problem was fixed in one physical therapy session
(and advice of what to do myself)
That was after about $100,000 worth of bull**** that didn't find
anything or fix anything. When they started trying to throw drugs at
it that I refused to take, they finally did what they should have done
in the first place.
The whole thing would have gone away on it's own if I never went to
the doctor in the first place and just went on with my life.
They actually made it worse with the braces and "immobilize" advice
that they sold me.
The first thing the PT lady said it throw away that brace and exercise
your joints. I was OK in a week.


Years ago I slipped on some icy deck stairs and went head over heels
down them. I tore the rotator cuff in my right arm which, to anyone who
has ever done this, is very painful. I went to see a doc and he
recommended surgery and offered cortisone shots until it could be
scheduled. I elected neither. Went home and, for the next year, took
it easy with that arm. Initially, I couldn't toss a tennis ball
underhand for more than a couple of feet without extreme pain. But,
over the course of a full year it got better and better and now I have
no lasting affects or limitations. Then, a few years later I did the
same thing, although not quite as bad, to the left rotator cuff.

I know a young guy who got a job working for Comcast about 7 years ago.
He fell off a ladder and tore a rotator cuff. He's had
three surgeries (unsuccessful) and now collects Social Security
disability, claiming he can't work.

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 

On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 12:27:43 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 12:05:29 -0500, wrote:

When they started trying to throw drugs at
it that I refused to take, they finally did what they should have done
in the first place.
The whole thing would have gone away on it's own if I never went to
the doctor in the first place and just went on with my life.
They actually made it worse with the braces and "immobilize" advice
that they sold me.

===

When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Especially when you get paid by the swing ;-)

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 

On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 9:35:11 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 09:46:07 -0500 (EST), Justan Ohlphart wrote:

True North Wrote in message:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:11:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

A couple of months ago I brought this subject to my doctor. I complained that we didn't have an easily accessible diagnostic program to check us for potential problems like clogged arteries. His response was to change my lifestyle now to head off problems.
Best of luck to you over the next few months.

===

"There's nothing wrong with changing to a healthier lifestyle but there
are plenty of tests available here in the USA."



I'm sure we have most of them here but you have to have some kind of event before you get access to them.
It's almost as if my doctor has to pay for them out of his own pocket. I'd just like to see a complete diagnosis program for any senior who wants one. Might save a life.


Tell me again why you choose to live in s socialist country where
the liberal socialist gubmint does everything BUT take proper
care of you?

It's funny. I complained to my doc about palpitations while I was playing golf (heart
racing, dizzy). Stress tests with nuclear crap in my veins, EKGs, heart monitor for
two weeks, sonograms, you name it. They found nothing wrong and told me I should
start eating breakfast when I play golf.

Of course, the USA doesn't have the fantastic health care system of Canada.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Nor the great healcare of Krause's dreamland, Cuba.

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 

True North wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:11:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

A couple of months ago I brought this subject to my doctor. I complained that we didn't have an easily accessible diagnostic program to check us for potential problems like clogged arteries. His response was to change my lifestyle now to head off problems.
Best of luck to you over the next few months.
===

"There's nothing wrong with changing to a healthier lifestyle but there
are plenty of tests available here in the USA."



I'm sure we have most of them here but you have to have some kind of event before you get access to them.
It's almost as if my doctor has to pay for them out of his own pocket. I'd just like to see a complete diagnosis program for any senior who wants one. Might save a life.


Cross the border and self-pay like your political leaders do.

Tim Schnautz, Heart Attack
 

wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 04:25:57 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:


On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:11:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

A couple of months ago I brought this subject to my doctor. I complained that we didn't have an easily accessible diagnostic program to check us for potential problems like clogged arteries. His response was to change my lifestyle now to head off problems.
Best of luck to you over the next few months.
===

"There's nothing wrong with changing to a healthier lifestyle but there
are plenty of tests available here in the USA."



I'm sure we have most of them here but you have to have some kind of event before you get access to them.
It's almost as if my doctor has to pay for them out of his own pocket. I'd just like to see a complete diagnosis program for any senior who wants one. Might save a life.
That is one good thing about "pay to play" medicine like we have here.
That stuff is pushed on you whether you want it or not.
I had 2 MRIs for a sore wrist.
It is also why we have the most expensive medical care in the world.
I agree with those who say some of the testing can become excessive.
I suspect the number of lawyers we have has a lot to do with it.
Doctors practice defensive medicine. They want to be in the position
of saying "there was nothing else we could have done" when they get
sued and they get sued a lot. It is a profit center for the lawyers.


I have one of these. It's well worth the money...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngood...cierge-doctor/