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Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. |
Carson is screwed ...
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. ..... Richard, I don't know of many politicos or wannabes that don't have bones in their closets. Like the movie 'Master Comander'. While searching for the enemy French man o war, the captain looked at the vast ocean and said to the ship surgeon- "finding them out there would be like finding an honest man in parliament " |
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On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:18:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. Maybe that will attract more liberals for whom integrity seems to be a detriment. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. .... Richard, I don't know of many politicos or wannabes that don't have bones in their closets. Like the movie 'Master Comander'. While searching for the enemy French man o war, the captain looked at the vast ocean and said to the ship surgeon- "finding them out there would be like finding an honest man in parliament " Did you by any chance read that whole Patrick O'Brian series? Fantastic series! -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:18:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. Already posted, but it's a decent story: If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 11/6/15 1:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. I don't see it making much difference in his support. Carson's base consists of evangelical christians, and they base their beliefs on a book filled with fairy tales. What will bring Carson down, though, are how he mixes those fairy tales with reality and comes up with a new set of fairy tales. Those weird beliefs don't play well with rational people. As in, Carson is upset that the XL pipeline isn't going to be built, because "where will we store our grain?" |
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On 11/6/15 2:37 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:18:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. Maybe that will attract more liberals for whom integrity seems to be a detriment. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Carson has very little ability to attract voters with critical thinking skills who don't take the biblical fairy tales at face value. |
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On 11/6/2015 1:28 PM, Tim wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. .... Richard, I don't know of many politicos or wannabes that don't have bones in their closets. Like the movie 'Master Comander'. While searching for the enemy French man o war, the captain looked at the vast ocean and said to the ship surgeon- "finding them out there would be like finding an honest man in parliament " Difference is ... we are not talking about youthful transgressions that actually occurred. The West Point appointment and sniper fire in Bosnia (by Hillary) are outright lies ... fabrications. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2015 2:51 PM, John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! The West Point thing isn't the only strange tale to come from Carson in the past week. He also gave an account about how he was somewhat of a bad ass as a kid living in Detroit and recounted an event where he stabbed some other kid in the stomach with a knife. The media jumped all over this, investigating and interviewing anyone they could find who knew Carson at that time. Last I knew, nobody has any recollection of such an event. He has a right to his beliefs and his religious views but I am starting to wonder if he has all his oars in the water. Wait for the movie: Indiana Carson & the Temple of Grain. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:40:39 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:
John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. One of my in law's kids was on the short list for Annapolis and he blew it off over a girl (just one missed appointment). That is a one way deal. He tried to get back on the list and they said too bad. |
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On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. |
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On 11/7/15 2:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. But he believes in the literal bible, so what else matters to his supporters? |
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On 11/7/2015 6:49 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/7/15 2:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. But he believes in the literal bible, so what else matters to his supporters? Don't fret. Carson will never be POTUS. He won't be the GOP nominee either. Now, this may shock you: Just like how the liberal side conveniently left out "illegal" when bashing Trump and his comments about (illegal) immigrants, the right conveniently leaves out the word "democratic" when describing Bernie as a socialist. I don't think many people know the difference between a socialist and a "democratic socialist". The lawyer friend I have and I have discussed this from time to time. He considers himself a democratic socialist. If "democratic socialist" simply means that the welfare and interests of a nation's citizens comes before the welfare and interests of large corporations, politicians or special interest groups, then include me in the "democratic socialist" category. :-) |
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On 11/7/2015 2:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. "can't remember"? He must have caught that disease from Hillary. |
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On 11/7/2015 7:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/7/2015 6:49 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/7/15 2:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. But he believes in the literal bible, so what else matters to his supporters? Don't fret. Carson will never be POTUS. He won't be the GOP nominee either. Now, this may shock you: Just like how the liberal side conveniently left out "illegal" when bashing Trump and his comments about (illegal) immigrants, the right conveniently leaves out the word "democratic" when describing Bernie as a socialist. I don't think many people know the difference between a socialist and a "democratic socialist". The lawyer friend I have and I have discussed this from time to time. He considers himself a democratic socialist. If "democratic socialist" simply means that the welfare and interests of a nation's citizens comes before the welfare and interests of large corporations, politicians or special interest groups, then include me in the "democratic socialist" category. :-) You don't get to officially define words. You're too dumb for that. |
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On 11/7/2015 8:17 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/7/2015 2:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. "can't remember"? He must have caught that disease from Hillary. In his defense, it was 50 years ago. But still, if it was General Westmoreland who personally offered the "scholarship" as described in Carson's book, you would think he'd remember it. Instead, he now refers to a "group" of people and can't remember who they were. |
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On 11/7/15 9:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/7/2015 8:17 AM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/7/2015 2:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. "can't remember"? He must have caught that disease from Hillary. In his defense, it was 50 years ago. But still, if it was General Westmoreland who personally offered the "scholarship" as described in Carson's book, you would think he'd remember it. Instead, he now refers to a "group" of people and can't remember who they were. Neither can they, I am sure. Carson is a crackpot or, actually, a: http://tinyurl.com/o76pvws |
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 07:06:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Now, this may shock you: Just like how the liberal side conveniently left out "illegal" when bashing Trump and his comments about (illegal) immigrants, the right conveniently leaves out the word "democratic" when describing Bernie as a socialist. I don't think many people know the difference between a socialist and a "democratic socialist". The lawyer friend I have and I have discussed this from time to time. He considers himself a democratic socialist. If "democratic socialist" simply means that the welfare and interests of a nation's citizens comes before the welfare and interests of large corporations, politicians or special interest groups, then include me in the "democratic socialist" category. :-) Everyone from the nazis to the soviets have thrown the name "socialist" around when describing themselves. I really look at what they want to do, not what they call themselves. My only real problem with Bernie is he underestimates the amount of taxes necessary to fund the government programs he advocates and he underestimates the inflationary impact of his $15 minimum wage. Other than that, he is a Libertarian. As for Carson, I do find it ironic that people are now saying he isn't "thuggish" enough to run as a black man and are questioning his alleged violent past |
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 09:28:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: In his defense, it was 50 years ago. But still, if it was General Westmoreland who personally offered the "scholarship" as described in Carson's book, you would think he'd remember it. Instead, he now refers to a "group" of people and can't remember who they were. My guess is he was addressing a group of gifted people of color, saying "you too can go to West Point" and Carson remembers it a bit more fondly than it may have actually been. The academies are for people looking at a career in the military so I can see how it would be easy to blow it off if you did not want to go that way. I doubt Harry would take that seriously either but 50 years later he might remember that it was an option. Harry may be right when he says the troubling thing about Carson is his religious politics but I wonder how serious he is about that. It may just be a way to cement his relationship with the 38%. This is truly silly time in the electoral process and over 90% of the people we are looking at now will be gone in 11 months. If history is an indication, none of the front runners will still be there except maybe Hillary and that is far from certain. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/primary%20one%20year%20out.jpg |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:59:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/6/2015 2:51 PM, John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! The West Point thing isn't the only strange tale to come from Carson in the past week. He also gave an account about how he was somewhat of a bad ass as a kid living in Detroit and recounted an event where he stabbed some other kid in the stomach with a knife. The media jumped all over this, investigating and interviewing anyone they could find who knew Carson at that time. Last I knew, nobody has any recollection of such an event. He has a right to his beliefs and his religious views but I am starting to wonder if he has all his oars in the water. We've been camping. Haven't heard that story yet. But I did listen to CNN for a few minutes on the way to the campground. I am convinced the liberal media will do anything it can to drag any GOP candidate through the dirt. I don't for a minute believe the liberal media did all that much searching to find a witness to the 'incident'. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 01:21:16 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:40:39 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. One of my in law's kids was on the short list for Annapolis and he blew it off over a girl (just one missed appointment). That is a one way deal. He tried to get back on the list and they said too bad. Amen. They don't play games. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would major in a 'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the scholarship. I didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17 at the time. Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year old whiz kid ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he could get him an appointment at the academy. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 12:25:52 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/7/15 11:51 AM, wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 09:28:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: In his defense, it was 50 years ago. But still, if it was General Westmoreland who personally offered the "scholarship" as described in Carson's book, you would think he'd remember it. Instead, he now refers to a "group" of people and can't remember who they were. My guess is he was addressing a group of gifted people of color, saying "you too can go to West Point" and Carson remembers it a bit more fondly than it may have actually been. The academies are for people looking at a career in the military so I can see how it would be easy to blow it off if you did not want to go that way. I doubt Harry would take that seriously either but 50 years later he might remember that it was an option. I was mildly interested in attending the Coast Guard Academy during my junior year of high school, but the interest "passed." No political string-pulling was necessary. Necessary for what...the 'passing' of your interest? Do you think there is no political string-pulling in getting an appointment to the Navy, Air Force, or Army academies? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 12:25:52 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/7/15 11:51 AM, wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 09:28:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: In his defense, it was 50 years ago. But still, if it was General Westmoreland who personally offered the "scholarship" as described in Carson's book, you would think he'd remember it. Instead, he now refers to a "group" of people and can't remember who they were. My guess is he was addressing a group of gifted people of color, saying "you too can go to West Point" and Carson remembers it a bit more fondly than it may have actually been. The academies are for people looking at a career in the military so I can see how it would be easy to blow it off if you did not want to go that way. I doubt Harry would take that seriously either but 50 years later he might remember that it was an option. I was mildly interested in attending the Coast Guard Academy during my junior year of high school, but the interest "passed." No political string-pulling was necessary. Necessary for what...the 'passing' of your interest? Do you think there is no political string-pulling in getting an appointment to the Navy, Air Force, or Army academies? -- Ban idiots, not guns! No, **** for brains. Back then and maybe still appointment to the Coast Guard academy was strictly on merit. Political nominations were not part of the process. W -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 16:18:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 12:25:52 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/7/15 11:51 AM, wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 09:28:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: In his defense, it was 50 years ago. But still, if it was General Westmoreland who personally offered the "scholarship" as described in Carson's book, you would think he'd remember it. Instead, he now refers to a "group" of people and can't remember who they were. My guess is he was addressing a group of gifted people of color, saying "you too can go to West Point" and Carson remembers it a bit more fondly than it may have actually been. The academies are for people looking at a career in the military so I can see how it would be easy to blow it off if you did not want to go that way. I doubt Harry would take that seriously either but 50 years later he might remember that it was an option. I was mildly interested in attending the Coast Guard Academy during my junior year of high school, but the interest "passed." No political string-pulling was necessary. Necessary for what...the 'passing' of your interest? Do you think there is no political string-pulling in getting an appointment to the Navy, Air Force, or Army academies? -- Ban idiots, not guns! No, **** for brains. Back then and maybe still appointment to the Coast Guard academy was strictly on merit. Political nominations were not part of the process. W We're not talking about the Coast Guard Academy. One must be nominated to attend USMA *after* all the 'merit' requirements are met. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would major in a 'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the scholarship. I didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17 at the time. Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year old whiz kid ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he could get him an appointment at the academy. Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from. |
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On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would major in a 'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the scholarship. I didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17 at the time. Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year old whiz kid ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he could get him an appointment at the academy. Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from. heh. "chock" |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 16:55:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would major in a 'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the scholarship. I didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17 at the time. Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year old whiz kid ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he could get him an appointment at the academy. Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from. heh. "chock" Oh, I just thought that was northeast slang. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 11/8/15 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would major in a 'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the scholarship. I didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17 at the time. Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year old whiz kid ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he could get him an appointment at the academy. Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from. heh. "chock" This is a fun discussion here, considering that Carson is loonytunes. |
Carson is screwed ...
On 11/8/15 3:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:59:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2015 2:51 PM, John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! The West Point thing isn't the only strange tale to come from Carson in the past week. He also gave an account about how he was somewhat of a bad ass as a kid living in Detroit and recounted an event where he stabbed some other kid in the stomach with a knife. The media jumped all over this, investigating and interviewing anyone they could find who knew Carson at that time. Last I knew, nobody has any recollection of such an event. He has a right to his beliefs and his religious views but I am starting to wonder if he has all his oars in the water. We've been camping. Haven't heard that story yet. But I did listen to CNN for a few minutes on the way to the campground. I am convinced the liberal media will do anything it can to drag any GOP candidate through the dirt. I don't for a minute believe the liberal media did all that much searching to find a witness to the 'incident'. -- Oooooh...another right-wing simpie blaming the "liberal media" for the bull**** spewed by Ben "Call Me Crazy" Carson... |
Carson is screwed ...
On 11/8/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/8/15 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would major in a 'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the scholarship. I didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17 at the time. Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year old whiz kid ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he could get him an appointment at the academy. Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from. heh. "chock" This is a fun discussion here, considering that Carson is loonytunes. In his 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story," he claims that as a youth he: He tried to hit his mother with a hammer. He hit someone with a lock, gashing the person's forehead. Hit someone with a rock, breaking the person's glasses and causing injury. Tried to stab "a friend" in the stomach with a knife. When recently challenged about these accounts, he said they are absolutely true. He claims he suffered from an uncontrollable "pathological temper." So far, nobody has come forward to substantiate his claims. WTF? |
Carson is screwed ...
On 11/8/15 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/8/15 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would major in a 'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the scholarship. I didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17 at the time. Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year old whiz kid ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he could get him an appointment at the academy. Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from. heh. "chock" This is a fun discussion here, considering that Carson is loonytunes. In his 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story," he claims that as a youth he: He tried to hit his mother with a hammer. He hit someone with a lock, gashing the person's forehead. Hit someone with a rock, breaking the person's glasses and causing injury. Tried to stab "a friend" in the stomach with a knife. When recently challenged about these accounts, he said they are absolutely true. He claims he suffered from an uncontrollable "pathological temper." So far, nobody has come forward to substantiate his claims. WTF? He's a psychopath in his mind? Obviously, he'd make a terrific POTUS. Perhaps the victims won't come forward because they're afraid a Gang of Crazed Evangelical Carson Supporters will bomb their houses or shoot them. |
Carson is screwed ...
On 11/8/2015 6:37 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/8/15 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/8/15 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would major in a 'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the scholarship. I didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17 at the time. Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year old whiz kid ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he could get him an appointment at the academy. Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from. heh. "chock" This is a fun discussion here, considering that Carson is loonytunes. In his 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story," he claims that as a youth he: He tried to hit his mother with a hammer. He hit someone with a lock, gashing the person's forehead. Hit someone with a rock, breaking the person's glasses and causing injury. Tried to stab "a friend" in the stomach with a knife. When recently challenged about these accounts, he said they are absolutely true. He claims he suffered from an uncontrollable "pathological temper." So far, nobody has come forward to substantiate his claims. WTF? He's a psychopath in his mind? Obviously, he'd make a terrific POTUS. Perhaps the victims won't come forward because they're afraid a Gang of Crazed Evangelical Carson Supporters will bomb their houses or shoot them. He has credited the adoption of his religious beliefs as being the reason he turned from a troubled youth to a mild mannered, soft spoken neurosurgeon. At least that's what he claims in his book, from what I hear. I haven't read it .. and won't. |
Carson is screwed ...
On 11/8/15 6:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 6:37 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/8/15 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/8/15 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point. That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he ever had any. He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given? Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire. But that didn't end that particular career, did it? :) If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was five years when I was in the military). It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo. Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get into the academy. **** happens. Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's story. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow to have got the appointment. The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened. In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a "scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship. I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would major in a 'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the scholarship. I didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17 at the time. Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year old whiz kid ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he could get him an appointment at the academy. Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from. heh. "chock" This is a fun discussion here, considering that Carson is loonytunes. In his 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story," he claims that as a youth he: He tried to hit his mother with a hammer. He hit someone with a lock, gashing the person's forehead. Hit someone with a rock, breaking the person's glasses and causing injury. Tried to stab "a friend" in the stomach with a knife. When recently challenged about these accounts, he said they are absolutely true. He claims he suffered from an uncontrollable "pathological temper." So far, nobody has come forward to substantiate his claims. WTF? He's a psychopath in his mind? Obviously, he'd make a terrific POTUS. Perhaps the victims won't come forward because they're afraid a Gang of Crazed Evangelical Carson Supporters will bomb their houses or shoot them. He has credited the adoption of his religious beliefs as being the reason he turned from a troubled youth to a mild mannered, soft spoken neurosurgeon. At least that's what he claims in his book, from what I hear. I haven't read it .. and won't. I've heard nothing from Carson that would make me change my mind about him being a religious crackpot. |
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