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....has a liberal bias...
So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. |
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On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. |
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On 11/4/2015 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. $Al Gore$ |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:30:39 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 11/4/2015 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. $Al Gore$ Al Gore is just one of the many who has found a way to monetize this fear with the "cap and trade" scam. His company is selling the snake oil called carbon credits. That is basically brokering 3d world dictators selling trees they don't own and can't really protect, to gullible people in the 1st world to make them feel better about their energy use. It has no effect except to raise prices. |
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On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. I guess the rise of man and agriculture stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago. |
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On 11/4/15 12:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. I guess the rise of man and agriculture stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago. How could that be possible when Dr. Ben believes "creation" didn't happen that far in the past? |
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On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. |
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On 11/4/2015 12:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. I guess the rise of man and agriculture stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago. Yabut, it was a bitch trying to get crops to grow in the permafrost. |
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On 11/4/15 12:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. What's the percentage of scientists who believe humans are the cause of global warming/change to scientists who don't believe humans are the cause of global warming/change? 99.9% to 00.1%? There aren't many non-believing scientists compared to believing scientists. |
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On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing? It would be better to do nothing than to do the wrong thing. I cite O'Bamacare as an example. |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:58:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing? Only do things that help. Snake oil like carbon credits and ethanol don't help anything but the bottom line of the people who sell it. We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not deluding ourselves that we can change it. That is still far from the biggest danger we face. We have people like you wringing their hands about global warming that may affect our great grandchildren and ignoring the debt bubble that could crush the world economy in a matter of weeks. It certainly appears that the resulting nuclear war seems to be the democratic plan for global warming. |
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On 11/4/15 12:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:58:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing? Only do things that help. Snake oil like carbon credits and ethanol don't help anything but the bottom line of the people who sell it. We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not deluding ourselves that we can change it. That is still far from the biggest danger we face. We have people like you wringing their hands about global warming that may affect our great grandchildren and ignoring the debt bubble that could crush the world economy in a matter of weeks. It certainly appears that the resulting nuclear war seems to be the democratic plan for global warming. Ahh, life in the libertarian bubble...don't do anything. |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:06:07 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. I guess the rise of man and agriculture stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago. Cutting down the forests and plowing up the prairie to plant crops did increase the CO2 levels. The contemporary example is Brazil, the lefty's sweetheart, who are burning the rain forest and draining wetlands to grow sugar for ethanol. Oil has far less effect on the environment. |
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On 11/4/2015 12:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 12:06 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. I guess the rise of man and agriculture stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago. How could that be possible when Dr. Ben believes "creation" didn't happen that far in the past? Let's keep it honest and accurate, shall we? Carson has never made a claim as to *when" mankind was created. In fact, here's a direct quote by him: " -- and I’m not a hard and fast person who says the Earth is only 6,000 years old -- " and, referencing the Bible: “It says, in the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth,” “It doesn’t say when He created them except for "in the beginning." BTW, Carson *does* believe in evolution, but not on the grand scale as proposed by Darwin. He claims that according to the Bible each thing brought forth was after its own kind. Evolutionary changes *within* each species has occurred to adapt to changing climates and/or environments. He has also stated, "But in no way has a species evolved into another species". This certainly isn't the view of someone who thinks life on earth is only 6 or 10 thousand years old. Gotta keep the liberal smear machine honest once in a while..... |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:27:15 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. I doubt there are many scientists who would deny that a rise in volcanism would "fix" global warming pretty quickly. If that happens, we would be back to the 70s when the same people were wringing their hands over global cooling. When (not if) Yellowstone goes up, there might be a thriving ice breaking business in the Chesapeake bay. |
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On 11/4/15 12:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/4/2015 12:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:06 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. I guess the rise of man and agriculture stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago. How could that be possible when Dr. Ben believes "creation" didn't happen that far in the past? Let's keep it honest and accurate, shall we? Carson has never made a claim as to *when" mankind was created. In fact, here's a direct quote by him: " -- and I’m not a hard and fast person who says the Earth is only 6,000 years old -- " and, referencing the Bible: “It says, in the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth,” “It doesn’t say when He created them except for "in the beginning." BTW, Carson *does* believe in evolution, but not on the grand scale as proposed by Darwin. He claims that according to the Bible each thing brought forth was after its own kind. Evolutionary changes *within* each species has occurred to adapt to changing climates and/or environments. He has also stated, "But in no way has a species evolved into another species". This certainly isn't the view of someone who thinks life on earth is only 6 or 10 thousand years old. Gotta keep the liberal smear machine honest once in a while..... Gosh...you've evolved into the defender of Obnoxious Trump and Know Nothing Carson. Congrats. Oh, and the Carson quote on evolutionary change demonstrates his belief in the bible over his belief in evolution and evolutionary theory. Carson is a "creationist," ergo, a believer in superstitious bull****. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyHDJgTYi1k |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 12:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. What's the percentage of scientists who believe humans are the cause of global warming/change to scientists who don't believe humans are the cause of global warming/change? 99.9% to 00.1%? There aren't many non-believing scientists compared to believing scientists. There are certainly not many willing to endanger their tenure and their grants by saying it publicly. Most are silent on the subject. |
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On 11/4/2015 12:31 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 12:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. What's the percentage of scientists who believe humans are the cause of global warming/change to scientists who don't believe humans are the cause of global warming/change? 99.9% to 00.1%? There aren't many non-believing scientists compared to believing scientists. There are many reasons scientists jump on a bandwagon ... or cling to existing theories. Here's an example, although in reverse: When Al Einstein first published his general theory of relativity, it was met with scorn and criticism by virtually all of the leading scientists of the day. It wasn't until the famous eclipse experiment in 1919 that his theory became accepted and it fundamentally changed physics the laws of physics to this day. |
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On 11/4/15 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. What's the percentage of scientists who believe humans are the cause of global warming/change to scientists who don't believe humans are the cause of global warming/change? 99.9% to 00.1%? There aren't many non-believing scientists compared to believing scientists. There are certainly not many willing to endanger their tenure and their grants by saying it publicly. Most are silent on the subject. Apparently you don't know what academic tenure is... |
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On 11/4/2015 12:56 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 12:52 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:58:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing? Only do things that help. Snake oil like carbon credits and ethanol don't help anything but the bottom line of the people who sell it. We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not deluding ourselves that we can change it. That is still far from the biggest danger we face. We have people like you wringing their hands about global warming that may affect our great grandchildren and ignoring the debt bubble that could crush the world economy in a matter of weeks. It certainly appears that the resulting nuclear war seems to be the democratic plan for global warming. Ahh, life in the libertarian bubble...don't do anything. Greg didn't say that. You either need a refresher course in understanding what you read ... or a beginner's course in intellectual honesty. |
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On 11/4/15 1:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/4/2015 12:56 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:52 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:58:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing? Only do things that help. Snake oil like carbon credits and ethanol don't help anything but the bottom line of the people who sell it. We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not deluding ourselves that we can change it. That is still far from the biggest danger we face. We have people like you wringing their hands about global warming that may affect our great grandchildren and ignoring the debt bubble that could crush the world economy in a matter of weeks. It certainly appears that the resulting nuclear war seems to be the democratic plan for global warming. Ahh, life in the libertarian bubble...don't do anything. Greg didn't say that. You either need a refresher course in understanding what you read ... or a beginner's course in intellectual honesty. "Only things that help" is not an answer, and neither is doing nothing and hoping we can cope. |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:56:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 12:52 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:58:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing? Only do things that help. Snake oil like carbon credits and ethanol don't help anything but the bottom line of the people who sell it. We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not deluding ourselves that we can change it. That is still far from the biggest danger we face. We have people like you wringing their hands about global warming that may affect our great grandchildren and ignoring the debt bubble that could crush the world economy in a matter of weeks. It certainly appears that the resulting nuclear war seems to be the democratic plan for global warming. Ahh, life in the libertarian bubble...don't do anything. Are you just acting like you are obtuse or is it a reading comprehension problem? My point is the clear and present danger is not some theory about what may happen in 100 years but a real debt problem that could affect the whole world tomorrow. Just look at how fast the markets crashed over a little dip in housing prices. Within a couple of months, the banks didn't even think the houses they were using for collateral were valuable enough to foreclose on. The government's plan was to simply print more money to cover the debt the bailout created. I understand people like you see no problem with that but it is going to blow up on all of us eventually. The fact remains that the US is buried in debt and the left's answer is to simply lift our credit limit without actually showing any increase in income. That is exactly what caused the housing crash. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 12:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. What's the percentage of scientists who believe humans are the cause of global warming/change to scientists who don't believe humans are the cause of global warming/change? 99.9% to 00.1%? There aren't many non-believing scientists compared to believing scientists. Lots of non believing scientists. But the money is flowing to those who say they believe. Follow the money! |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 12:06 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. I guess the rise of man and agriculture stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago. How could that be possible when Dr. Ben believes "creation" didn't happen that far in the past? More brain farts. Avoid the question and fart. Harry's MO. |
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On 11/4/2015 1:04 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 12:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 12:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:06 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. I guess the rise of man and agriculture stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago. How could that be possible when Dr. Ben believes "creation" didn't happen that far in the past? Let's keep it honest and accurate, shall we? Carson has never made a claim as to *when" mankind was created. In fact, here's a direct quote by him: " -- and I’m not a hard and fast person who says the Earth is only 6,000 years old -- " and, referencing the Bible: “It says, in the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth,” “It doesn’t say when He created them except for "in the beginning." BTW, Carson *does* believe in evolution, but not on the grand scale as proposed by Darwin. He claims that according to the Bible each thing brought forth was after its own kind. Evolutionary changes *within* each species has occurred to adapt to changing climates and/or environments. He has also stated, "But in no way has a species evolved into another species". This certainly isn't the view of someone who thinks life on earth is only 6 or 10 thousand years old. Gotta keep the liberal smear machine honest once in a while..... Gosh...you've evolved into the defender of Obnoxious Trump and Know Nothing Carson. Congrats. Oh, and the Carson quote on evolutionary change demonstrates his belief in the bible over his belief in evolution and evolutionary theory. Carson is a "creationist," ergo, a believer in superstitious bull****. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyHDJgTYi1k Carson has a right to believe in anything he wants to believe in. He doesn't have a right to force his beliefs upon others due to a political position he may or may not hold. He has stated this on numerous occasions. Oh, and I am not "defending" anyone. I was simply correcting your implied reference to Carson believing that life on earth began within the last 10k years. Yet another "liberal" response trying to change the facts. |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 13:04:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
Gosh...you've evolved into the defender of Obnoxious Trump and Know Nothing Carson. Congrats. Oh, and the Carson quote on evolutionary change demonstrates his belief in the bible over his belief in evolution and evolutionary theory. Carson is a "creationist," ergo, a believer in superstitious bull****. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyHDJgTYi1k You have to be into irrational beliefs in the unprovable if you believe Hillary on anything. If she had not married Bill, she might be the GOP candidate. She certainly fits the mold, Corporate lawyer, Walmart and Tyson foods board member, self made millionaire by doing basically nothing. She is just trump with tits. |
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On 11/4/2015 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. What's the percentage of scientists who believe humans are the cause of global warming/change to scientists who don't believe humans are the cause of global warming/change? 99.9% to 00.1%? There aren't many non-believing scientists compared to believing scientists. There are certainly not many willing to endanger their tenure and their grants by saying it publicly. Most are silent on the subject. Any honest scientist will admit that "proof" just doesn't exist ... at least not yet. Lot's of compelling theories and statistics exist that can support human caused global warming but there is still no definitive proof that can be supported. That's how a otherwise uninfluenced scientist approaches these issues. |
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On 11/4/2015 1:11 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 1:06 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. What's the percentage of scientists who believe humans are the cause of global warming/change to scientists who don't believe humans are the cause of global warming/change? 99.9% to 00.1%? There aren't many non-believing scientists compared to believing scientists. There are certainly not many willing to endanger their tenure and their grants by saying it publicly. Most are silent on the subject. Apparently you don't know what academic tenure is... Oh ... geeze ... here we go again. |
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On 11/4/2015 1:16 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 1:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 12:56 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:52 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:58:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing? Only do things that help. Snake oil like carbon credits and ethanol don't help anything but the bottom line of the people who sell it. We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not deluding ourselves that we can change it. That is still far from the biggest danger we face. We have people like you wringing their hands about global warming that may affect our great grandchildren and ignoring the debt bubble that could crush the world economy in a matter of weeks. It certainly appears that the resulting nuclear war seems to be the democratic plan for global warming. Ahh, life in the libertarian bubble...don't do anything. Greg didn't say that. You either need a refresher course in understanding what you read ... or a beginner's course in intellectual honesty. "Only things that help" is not an answer, and neither is doing nothing and hoping we can cope. You ignored: "We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not deluding ourselves that we can change it." |
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On 11/4/15 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:56:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:52 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:58:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing? Only do things that help. Snake oil like carbon credits and ethanol don't help anything but the bottom line of the people who sell it. We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not deluding ourselves that we can change it. That is still far from the biggest danger we face. We have people like you wringing their hands about global warming that may affect our great grandchildren and ignoring the debt bubble that could crush the world economy in a matter of weeks. It certainly appears that the resulting nuclear war seems to be the democratic plan for global warming. Ahh, life in the libertarian bubble...don't do anything. Are you just acting like you are obtuse or is it a reading comprehension problem? My point is the clear and present danger is not some theory about what may happen in 100 years but a real debt problem that could affect the whole world tomorrow. Just look at how fast the markets crashed over a little dip in housing prices. Within a couple of months, the banks didn't even think the houses they were using for collateral were valuable enough to foreclose on. The government's plan was to simply print more money to cover the debt the bailout created. I understand people like you see no problem with that but it is going to blow up on all of us eventually. The fact remains that the US is buried in debt and the left's answer is to simply lift our credit limit without actually showing any increase in income. That is exactly what caused the housing crash. So, your solution for global warming is to adapt ourselves to a hotter world (in other words, do nothing), and worry about the debt problem, instead. I get it. In the short term, I'd be more worried about the decline of the middle class in this country and the lack of upper mobility for those in the lowest income levels. I think we'll have a violent revolution long before the world roasts us alive or debt buries us. Oh, increase in income. Yes, that would be nice. What's your proposal for that? Get rid of environmental and food safety regs? |
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On 11/4/2015 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:56:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:52 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:58:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing? Only do things that help. Snake oil like carbon credits and ethanol don't help anything but the bottom line of the people who sell it. We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not deluding ourselves that we can change it. That is still far from the biggest danger we face. We have people like you wringing their hands about global warming that may affect our great grandchildren and ignoring the debt bubble that could crush the world economy in a matter of weeks. It certainly appears that the resulting nuclear war seems to be the democratic plan for global warming. Ahh, life in the libertarian bubble...don't do anything. Are you just acting like you are obtuse or is it a reading comprehension problem? My point is the clear and present danger is not some theory about what may happen in 100 years but a real debt problem that could affect the whole world tomorrow. Just look at how fast the markets crashed over a little dip in housing prices. Within a couple of months, the banks didn't even think the houses they were using for collateral were valuable enough to foreclose on. The government's plan was to simply print more money to cover the debt the bailout created. I understand people like you see no problem with that but it is going to blow up on all of us eventually. The fact remains that the US is buried in debt and the left's answer is to simply lift our credit limit without actually showing any increase in income. That is exactly what caused the housing crash. Isn't that the liberal mindset though? Address a serious financial crisis by, hmmmmm.... Ah! Got it! ... Let's spend *more* that we don't have. That's the ticket! Hear about the $250K gas station in Afghanistan that the US Government spent $43 million building? |
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On 11/4/2015 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 13:04:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Gosh...you've evolved into the defender of Obnoxious Trump and Know Nothing Carson. Congrats. Oh, and the Carson quote on evolutionary change demonstrates his belief in the bible over his belief in evolution and evolutionary theory. Carson is a "creationist," ergo, a believer in superstitious bull****. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyHDJgTYi1k You have to be into irrational beliefs in the unprovable if you believe Hillary on anything. If she had not married Bill, she might be the GOP candidate. She certainly fits the mold, Corporate lawyer, Walmart and Tyson foods board member, self made millionaire by doing basically nothing. She is just trump with tits. Ah, come on will ya? I *was* enjoying my lunch. |
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On 11/4/15 1:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/4/2015 1:04 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 12:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:06 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. I guess the rise of man and agriculture stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago. How could that be possible when Dr. Ben believes "creation" didn't happen that far in the past? Let's keep it honest and accurate, shall we? Carson has never made a claim as to *when" mankind was created. In fact, here's a direct quote by him: " -- and I’m not a hard and fast person who says the Earth is only 6,000 years old -- " and, referencing the Bible: “It says, in the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth,” “It doesn’t say when He created them except for "in the beginning." BTW, Carson *does* believe in evolution, but not on the grand scale as proposed by Darwin. He claims that according to the Bible each thing brought forth was after its own kind. Evolutionary changes *within* each species has occurred to adapt to changing climates and/or environments. He has also stated, "But in no way has a species evolved into another species". This certainly isn't the view of someone who thinks life on earth is only 6 or 10 thousand years old. Gotta keep the liberal smear machine honest once in a while..... Gosh...you've evolved into the defender of Obnoxious Trump and Know Nothing Carson. Congrats. Oh, and the Carson quote on evolutionary change demonstrates his belief in the bible over his belief in evolution and evolutionary theory. Carson is a "creationist," ergo, a believer in superstitious bull****. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyHDJgTYi1k Carson has a right to believe in anything he wants to believe in. He doesn't have a right to force his beliefs upon others due to a political position he may or may not hold. He has stated this on numerous occasions. Oh, and I am not "defending" anyone. I was simply correcting your implied reference to Carson believing that life on earth began within the last 10k years. Yet another "liberal" response trying to change the facts. Carson uses the bible as evidence that the bible is true. He's a creationist, and that sort of biblical bull**** permeates his beliefs. A creationist has no business running this country. |
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On 11/4/15 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/4/2015 1:11 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 1:06 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. What's the percentage of scientists who believe humans are the cause of global warming/change to scientists who don't believe humans are the cause of global warming/change? 99.9% to 00.1%? There aren't many non-believing scientists compared to believing scientists. There are certainly not many willing to endanger their tenure and their grants by saying it publicly. Most are silent on the subject. Apparently you don't know what academic tenure is... Oh ... geeze ... here we go again. Why, because Greg doesn't know what academic tenure is, and I do? No need for extensive research...Wiki has the simple answer: Academic tenure protects teachers and researchers when they dissent from prevailing opinion, openly disagree with authorities of any sort, or spend time on unfashionable topics. Thus, if you are a tenured academic, you are not endangering your tenure by coming out against the prevailing thoughts on global warming. Next? |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 1:11 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 1:06 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 11:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. Right, because nearly all the scientists who agree human activity is a major contributor to global warming/climate chage are card-carrying liberals, and, of course, nearly all scientists agree. Gotta love rec.boats, the Ben Carson-approved usenet group. Sheesh. Man caused climate change is far from being a "uncontroversial notion". There are many scientists who disagree or who acknowledge a human influence but it is in the noise level on a signal to noise ratio when compared to cyclic, natural causes. Point is, nobody really knows for sure. What's the percentage of scientists who believe humans are the cause of global warming/change to scientists who don't believe humans are the cause of global warming/change? 99.9% to 00.1%? There aren't many non-believing scientists compared to believing scientists. There are certainly not many willing to endanger their tenure and their grants by saying it publicly. Most are silent on the subject. Apparently you don't know what academic tenure is... Oh ... geeze ... here we go again. Why, because Greg doesn't know what academic tenure is, and I do? No need for extensive research...Wiki has the simple answer: Academic tenure protects teachers and researchers when they dissent from prevailing opinion, openly disagree with authorities of any sort, or spend time on unfashionable topics. Thus, if you are a tenured academic, you are not endangering your tenure by coming out against the prevailing thoughts on global warming. Next? And that tenure will protect research grants? |
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On 11/4/2015 1:30 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 1:17 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:56:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 12:52 PM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:58:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: ...has a liberal bias... So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal, as those on the right love to claim? Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal bias — at least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate change, for example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human activity is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the vast majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for humanity if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not contest the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant left-wing conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is operating in reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate change (i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes this, or his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a communist lie, does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael Cruz and his son are delusional. http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk - - - Yup. How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"? Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media. There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend and tracks population as closely as any other metric. Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go. ;-) What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing? Only do things that help. Snake oil like carbon credits and ethanol don't help anything but the bottom line of the people who sell it. We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not deluding ourselves that we can change it. That is still far from the biggest danger we face. We have people like you wringing their hands about global warming that may affect our great grandchildren and ignoring the debt bubble that could crush the world economy in a matter of weeks. It certainly appears that the resulting nuclear war seems to be the democratic plan for global warming. Ahh, life in the libertarian bubble...don't do anything. Are you just acting like you are obtuse or is it a reading comprehension problem? My point is the clear and present danger is not some theory about what may happen in 100 years but a real debt problem that could affect the whole world tomorrow. Just look at how fast the markets crashed over a little dip in housing prices. Within a couple of months, the banks didn't even think the houses they were using for collateral were valuable enough to foreclose on. The government's plan was to simply print more money to cover the debt the bailout created. I understand people like you see no problem with that but it is going to blow up on all of us eventually. The fact remains that the US is buried in debt and the left's answer is to simply lift our credit limit without actually showing any increase in income. That is exactly what caused the housing crash. So, your solution for global warming is to adapt ourselves to a hotter world (in other words, do nothing), and worry about the debt problem, instead. I get it. In the short term, I'd be more worried about the decline of the middle class in this country and the lack of upper mobility for those in the lowest income levels. I think we'll have a violent revolution long before the world roasts us alive or debt buries us. Oh, increase in income. Yes, that would be nice. What's your proposal for that? Get rid of environmental and food safety regs? You liberals screwed up the economy. You liberals screwed up the healthcare system. You liberals are promoting gayism and abortion. You liberals are encouraging illegal immigration. You liberals won't keep your promise to get out of the middle east. And now you want to **** with mother nature. No way Jose. Viva la revolution. |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 13:11:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 1:06 PM, wrote: There are certainly not many willing to endanger their tenure and their grants by saying it publicly. Most are silent on the subject. Apparently you don't know what academic tenure is... Are you saying a professor can't be shunned and driven out by his peers? |
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