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On 11/2/2015 9:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. By William Saletan Half an hour into Wednesday’s Republican presidential debate, Sen. Ted Cruz exploded at the CNBC moderators. “The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don’t trust the media,” Cruz fumed. “You look at the questions: ‘Donald Trump, are you a comic-book villain?’ ‘Ben Carson, can you do math?’ ‘John Kasich, will you insult two people over here?’ ‘Marco Rubio, why don't you resign?’ ‘Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?’ How about talking about the substantive issues the people care about?” By the end of the evening, Cruz, Carson, Trump, Rubio, and several other candidates had declared war on the press. They claimed to speak for the Republican Party, the American people, and the truth. These candidates are deluded. Many of their statements were falsified on the spot. Others were exposed as absurd by their opponents. It’s true that the debate exposed a division within the country. But the division isn’t between the press and the public. It’s between people who listen to evidence—reporters, policy analysts, and many Democrats and Republicans—and an impervious, defiant wing of the GOP. Take Cruz’s speech. It doesn’t even match the debate transcript. To begin with, nobody called Trump a villain. CNBC’s John Harwood asked Trump how he would fulfill his promises to “build a wall and make another country pay for it” (Mexico), “send 11 million people out of the country” (undocumented immigrants), and “cut taxes $10 trillion without increasing the deficit.” Second, nobody asked Carson whether he could do math. CNBC’s Becky Quick asked Carson how he would close the $1 trillion gap between current federal spending and the revenue projected from Carson’s 15 percent flat tax. Third, nobody asked Kasich to insult his colleagues. Kasich volunteered that Trump’s and Carson’s promises were impractical and incoherent. All of these questions were substantive. In fact, Cruz’s speech was a diversion from the query that had been posed to him—namely, why did he oppose this week’s agreement to raise the debt limit? Presented with facts and figures that didn’t fit their story, the leading Republican candidates accused the moderators of malice and deceit. As the evening wore on, it became increasingly obvious that Trump, Carson, and their allies onstage didn’t just have a problem with the press. They had problems with fellow Republicans. Harwood brought up Ben Bernanke, the former Federal Reserve chairman who recently declared that the GOP, hijacked by the “know-nothingism of the far right,” had forfeited Bernanke’s allegiance. Sen. Rand Paul dismissed Bernanke’s criticism as “arrogance” and said it showed why the Fed should be audited. Paul, one-upping Cruz and Rubio—who had already celebrated the resignation of House Speaker John Boehner—spurned Boehner’s likely replacement, Paul Ryan, as “more of the same.” For much, much mo http://tinyurl.com/ozxmvax Have you noticed that nobody else in this newsgroup routinely posts long, cut and paste commentaries on politics like you do? Some express personal opinions and preferences from time to time but that's about it. What are you trying to prove? |
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#2
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On 11/2/15 9:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/2/2015 9:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. By William Saletan Half an hour into Wednesday’s Republican presidential debate, Sen. Ted Cruz exploded at the CNBC moderators. “The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don’t trust the media,” Cruz fumed. “You look at the questions: ‘Donald Trump, are you a comic-book villain?’ ‘Ben Carson, can you do math?’ ‘John Kasich, will you insult two people over here?’ ‘Marco Rubio, why don't you resign?’ ‘Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?’ How about talking about the substantive issues the people care about?” By the end of the evening, Cruz, Carson, Trump, Rubio, and several other candidates had declared war on the press. They claimed to speak for the Republican Party, the American people, and the truth. These candidates are deluded. Many of their statements were falsified on the spot. Others were exposed as absurd by their opponents. It’s true that the debate exposed a division within the country. But the division isn’t between the press and the public. It’s between people who listen to evidence—reporters, policy analysts, and many Democrats and Republicans—and an impervious, defiant wing of the GOP. Take Cruz’s speech. It doesn’t even match the debate transcript. To begin with, nobody called Trump a villain. CNBC’s John Harwood asked Trump how he would fulfill his promises to “build a wall and make another country pay for it” (Mexico), “send 11 million people out of the country” (undocumented immigrants), and “cut taxes $10 trillion without increasing the deficit.” Second, nobody asked Carson whether he could do math. CNBC’s Becky Quick asked Carson how he would close the $1 trillion gap between current federal spending and the revenue projected from Carson’s 15 percent flat tax. Third, nobody asked Kasich to insult his colleagues. Kasich volunteered that Trump’s and Carson’s promises were impractical and incoherent. All of these questions were substantive. In fact, Cruz’s speech was a diversion from the query that had been posed to him—namely, why did he oppose this week’s agreement to raise the debt limit? Presented with facts and figures that didn’t fit their story, the leading Republican candidates accused the moderators of malice and deceit. As the evening wore on, it became increasingly obvious that Trump, Carson, and their allies onstage didn’t just have a problem with the press. They had problems with fellow Republicans. Harwood brought up Ben Bernanke, the former Federal Reserve chairman who recently declared that the GOP, hijacked by the “know-nothingism of the far right,” had forfeited Bernanke’s allegiance. Sen. Rand Paul dismissed Bernanke’s criticism as “arrogance” and said it showed why the Fed should be audited. Paul, one-upping Cruz and Rubio—who had already celebrated the resignation of House Speaker John Boehner—spurned Boehner’s likely replacement, Paul Ryan, as “more of the same.” For much, much mo http://tinyurl.com/ozxmvax Have you noticed that nobody else in this newsgroup routinely posts long, cut and paste commentaries on politics like you do? Some express personal opinions and preferences from time to time but that's about it. What are you trying to prove? I occasionally post such articles or portions of them, as in the current case. |
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On 11/2/2015 10:06 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/2/15 9:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/2/2015 9:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. By William Saletan Half an hour into Wednesday’s Republican presidential debate, Sen. Ted Cruz exploded at the CNBC moderators. “The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don’t trust the media,” Cruz fumed. “You look at the questions: ‘Donald Trump, are you a comic-book villain?’ ‘Ben Carson, can you do math?’ ‘John Kasich, will you insult two people over here?’ ‘Marco Rubio, why don't you resign?’ ‘Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?’ How about talking about the substantive issues the people care about?” By the end of the evening, Cruz, Carson, Trump, Rubio, and several other candidates had declared war on the press. They claimed to speak for the Republican Party, the American people, and the truth. These candidates are deluded. Many of their statements were falsified on the spot. Others were exposed as absurd by their opponents. It’s true that the debate exposed a division within the country. But the division isn’t between the press and the public. It’s between people who listen to evidence—reporters, policy analysts, and many Democrats and Republicans—and an impervious, defiant wing of the GOP. Take Cruz’s speech. It doesn’t even match the debate transcript. To begin with, nobody called Trump a villain. CNBC’s John Harwood asked Trump how he would fulfill his promises to “build a wall and make another country pay for it” (Mexico), “send 11 million people out of the country” (undocumented immigrants), and “cut taxes $10 trillion without increasing the deficit.” Second, nobody asked Carson whether he could do math. CNBC’s Becky Quick asked Carson how he would close the $1 trillion gap between current federal spending and the revenue projected from Carson’s 15 percent flat tax. Third, nobody asked Kasich to insult his colleagues. Kasich volunteered that Trump’s and Carson’s promises were impractical and incoherent. All of these questions were substantive. In fact, Cruz’s speech was a diversion from the query that had been posed to him—namely, why did he oppose this week’s agreement to raise the debt limit? Presented with facts and figures that didn’t fit their story, the leading Republican candidates accused the moderators of malice and deceit. As the evening wore on, it became increasingly obvious that Trump, Carson, and their allies onstage didn’t just have a problem with the press. They had problems with fellow Republicans. Harwood brought up Ben Bernanke, the former Federal Reserve chairman who recently declared that the GOP, hijacked by the “know-nothingism of the far right,” had forfeited Bernanke’s allegiance. Sen. Rand Paul dismissed Bernanke’s criticism as “arrogance” and said it showed why the Fed should be audited. Paul, one-upping Cruz and Rubio—who had already celebrated the resignation of House Speaker John Boehner—spurned Boehner’s likely replacement, Paul Ryan, as “more of the same.” For much, much mo http://tinyurl.com/ozxmvax Have you noticed that nobody else in this newsgroup routinely posts long, cut and paste commentaries on politics like you do? Some express personal opinions and preferences from time to time but that's about it. What are you trying to prove? I occasionally post such articles or portions of them, as in the current case. You didn't answer Luddite's question. |
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#4
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 10:49:12 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/2/2015 10:06 AM, Keyser Sze wrote: On 11/2/15 9:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: For much, much mo http://tinyurl.com/ozxmvax Have you noticed that nobody else in this newsgroup routinely posts long, cut and paste commentaries on politics like you do? Some express personal opinions and preferences from time to time but that's about it. What are you trying to prove? I occasionally post such articles or portions of them, as in the current case. You didn't answer Luddite's question. He probably considers Luddite 'unentitled' to an answer. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:33:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 11/2/2015 9:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. By William Saletan Have you noticed that nobody else in this newsgroup routinely posts long, cut and paste commentaries on politics like you do? Some express personal opinions and preferences from time to time but that's about it. What are you trying to prove? Lack of imagination? |
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On 11/2/15 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 11:21:14 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/2/15 11:18 AM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:33:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/2/2015 9:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. By William Saletan Have you noticed that nobody else in this newsgroup routinely posts long, cut and paste commentaries on politics like you do? Some express personal opinions and preferences from time to time but that's about it. What are you trying to prove? Lack of imagination? Lack of interest in golf, RV'ing, other peoples' grandkids, spicy recipes, rec.boats posts from 1998 about defunct boat companies, et cetera. Non responsive brain fart. Can't that over hyped education of yours support actually writing any original opinion pieces? Richard was pointing out that you just quote articles, you never have an original thought. You dodged that question. It does make me wonder if you would have graduated if your professors had the ability to google your papers to see how much was simply cut and pasted. Hehehe. I've stated many times that the poisonous right-wing atmosphere in rec.boats makes writing and posting "original" opinion pieces here a waste of my time and effort. When the righties here start behaving decently towards everyone, I'll consider it. I did quite well in my English Lit and Sociology majors, based upon my ability to write, my ability to research (before Google) and my understanding of the mechanics of producing college level papers. Certainly I "quoted" sources, because you were supposed to integrate the works of others into your papers, and give those others credit for their "contributions." You were supposed to add your points or knowledge or findings to all that had gone before. I knew this because in the 10 grade at my high school, I was lucky enough to be in the AP English class of one Emma Ruff, unquestionably the best teacher I've ever encountered, and she taught us how to do well in college liberal arts courses, which involve a lot of writing. I lucked out my first semester with placement in "Advanced English Composition." The associate professor wanted us to demonstrate we understood the "how" of writing, so he went to the blackboard and asked each of us to dictate the "completion" of a sentence fragment he scrawled there...a different sentence fragment for each of the 12 class members. Everyone else came up with sentences that ran maybe 100 words. Mine, properly punctuated from beginning to end, ran 997 words and covered three blackboards. Nowadays, most of my "for fun" writing appears on Facebook. |
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 12:36:38 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
I've stated many times that the poisonous right-wing atmosphere in rec.boats makes writing and posting "original" opinion pieces here a waste of my time and effort. Perhaps opening your posts is a waste of time too. |
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