On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:29:53 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


You're taking it a lot farther than I am. I simply don't believe that
U.S. corporations that export jobs should get tax breaks. My
"experience" last night with the tech company that has its "help desk"
in India is a perfect example. Why should that company get tax breaks
(assuming it does) if it is hiring people in an underdeveloped country
at very low wages to provide lousy tech support for American customers?


I am not sure exactly what the tax break would be. They use off shore
tech support, simply because it is cheap.
I really avoid tech support altogether since they seldom ever tell me
anything I can't find on the net and it is just a hassle I don't need
in my day.

What "cleaner" did you think you needed in the first place?
If it is just adware, try JRT, now part of Malwarebytes.

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:01:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Maybe I am but wouldn't it be nice to have more products say "Made in
the USA" on them?

It's only money. If we were willing to pay more, they would make more
here. Unfortunately most people are not willing to pay more.

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:16:21 -0400, wrote:

If you really want something to keep you up at night, you should be
worrying that our loose fiscal policies will cause loss in faith in
the dollar and perhaps the end of the dollar being the world's reserve
currency. That could make our economy unstable and make most of the
promises from the government, not much more than love letters in the
sand.
It is certainly as worrying as global warming.

===

More worrying in my opinion. The effects of global warming are still
a ways out, maybe 50 to 100 years if at all.

A currency crisis could happen next week , next month or next year.

wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:01:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Maybe I am but wouldn't it be nice to have more products say "Made in
the USA" on them?

It's only money. If we were willing to pay more, they would make more
here. Unfortunately most people are not willing to pay more.


Minimum wage is a guarantee of offshoring jobs. Make sure we are
overpriced.

On 10/29/2015 2:29 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/29/15 1:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Maybe I am but wouldn't it be nice to have more products say "Made in
the USA" on them? Either that or maybe you should take some courses in
basic Hindi. :-)







Sure, it would be nice.

Do I detect a note of hopelessness?

On 10/29/15 6:51 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2015 2:29 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/29/15 1:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Maybe I am but wouldn't it be nice to have more products say "Made in
the USA" on them? Either that or maybe you should take some courses in
basic Hindi. :-)







Sure, it would be nice.

Do I detect a note of hopelessness?



So long as this country is ruled by corporationists, we're not going to
get anywhere.

Justan Olphart wrote:
On 10/29/2015 7:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
(7) Carly is a deceptive, ego maniacal piece of ****.

(8) Cruz is an evil, ego maniacal piece of **** who bragged about
leading the battle against Planned Parenthood.

Would you mind if I appended your list?

(8A) Hillery is an evil, ego maniacal, deceptive, POS who bragged
about dodging bullets while disembarking from a helicopter in an
obviously staged media event, in some ******** in the middle east.

You share some of her attributes, so maybe that's why you are so
mesmerized by her.


True.

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:46:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/29/15 6:51 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2015 2:29 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/29/15 1:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Maybe I am but wouldn't it be nice to have more products say "Made in
the USA" on them? Either that or maybe you should take some courses in
basic Hindi. :-)







Sure, it would be nice.

Do I detect a note of hopelessness?



So long as this country is ruled by corporationists, we're not going to
get anywhere.

That ultimately still gets back to the consumer. As long as people are
willing to camp out in front of a store for days, just to save $100 on
a TV, we are not going to get away from the economy of scale that
makes big conglomerates successful.
If nothing else, I would like to see anti trust legislation passed and
enforced. (and you think I am a corporations uber alles libertarian)

If we had not broken up the phone company we would not have an
internet and if that shot was not fired across IBM's bow we would not
have the PC as we know it.

Does anyone think beer will be improved or even made cheaper when A/B
owns Miller?

On 10/29/2015 7:46 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/29/15 6:51 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2015 2:29 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/29/15 1:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Maybe I am but wouldn't it be nice to have more products say "Made in
the USA" on them? Either that or maybe you should take some
courses in
basic Hindi. :-)







Sure, it would be nice.

Do I detect a note of hopelessness?



So long as this country is ruled by corporationists, we're not going to
get anywhere.


It has *always* been run by corporationists. It's what made the USA
number one in the world for a very long time.

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:19:02 -0400, wrote:

If we had not broken up the phone company we would not have an
internet and if that shot was not fired across IBM's bow we would not
have the PC as we know it.

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The old Bell System phone companies fought successfull for years to
keep other devices from attaching to their wires. Those were the days
when a 1200 baud modem was considered high speed and cost over a
thousand dollars. Only the most visionary could concieve of an
internet like structure even though a lot of the technology came out
of Bell Labs.

IBM was not forced into the PC business by the threat of anti trust
however. That threat had far more impact on mainframe hardware and
software. IBM's PC was more of a response to the possible loss of
account control posed by the Apple II computer and the VisiCalc
spreadsheet application. IBM marketing reps were walking into
customer offices, seeing the proliferation of Apple 2s, spreadsheets,
word processors, etc., and recognizing the threat to their business
model and customer relationships. In the end they lost that segment
of the business anyway but not before the Intel/Microsoft platform had
become an industry standard.