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On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:57:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/17-...lexing-rights/

http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/E...307979961.html

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Tim wrote:
On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:57:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/17-...lexing-rights/

http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/E...307979961.html


Actually sounds like the cop murdered the kid. Maybe the kid was defending
himself from an out of control officer. Ripping the kid out of the car for
flashing lights and then conveniently the body cam stopped recording.

Live like a thug, die like a thug
 

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:01:06 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:57:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/17-...lexing-rights/

http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/E...307979961.html


Actually sounds like the cop murdered the kid. Maybe the kid was defending
himself from an out of control officer. Ripping the kid out of the car for
flashing lights and then conveniently the body cam stopped recording.

Fortunately the cop had a camera and it looks like the kid was just
being an asshole. He refused to come up with any ID 7 times, then when
the cop said he was under arrest the kid started a fight with the cop,
going for his gun according to the cop. The cop did get banged up a
bit.

Act like a thug, die like a thug.

What the hell ever happened to the idea that it was a good thing to
talk yourself out of a ticket?

Live like a thug, die like a thug
 

wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:01:06 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:57:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/17-...lexing-rights/

http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/E...307979961.html


Actually sounds like the cop murdered the kid. Maybe the kid was defending
himself from an out of control officer. Ripping the kid out of the car for
flashing lights and then conveniently the body cam stopped recording.

Fortunately the cop had a camera and it looks like the kid was just
being an asshole. He refused to come up with any ID 7 times, then when
the cop said he was under arrest the kid started a fight with the cop,
going for his gun according to the cop. The cop did get banged up a
bit.

Act like a thug, die like a thug.

What the hell ever happened to the idea that it was a good thing to
talk yourself out of a ticket?



I think the kid was out of control, but a cop should be able to subdue an
asshole without having to shoot him 7 times. And with a camera that
conveniently stops.

Live like a thug, die like a thug
 

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 21:32:04 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:01:06 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:57:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/17-...lexing-rights/

http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/E...307979961.html


Actually sounds like the cop murdered the kid. Maybe the kid was defending
himself from an out of control officer. Ripping the kid out of the car for
flashing lights and then conveniently the body cam stopped recording.

Fortunately the cop had a camera and it looks like the kid was just
being an asshole. He refused to come up with any ID 7 times, then when
the cop said he was under arrest the kid started a fight with the cop,
going for his gun according to the cop. The cop did get banged up a
bit.

Act like a thug, die like a thug.

What the hell ever happened to the idea that it was a good thing to
talk yourself out of a ticket?



I think the kid was out of control, but a cop should be able to subdue an
asshole without having to shoot him 7 times. And with a camera that
conveniently stops.

It stopped after the kid started fighting with the cop.
What was he supposed to do. The taser didn't help.
I suppose dumping a whole can of pepper spray into the car might have
done something but there was the distinct possibility that this could
have degraded into a high speed chase if he didn't detain the kid.
Then innocent people are at risk.

What was so hard about just following the law and handing the cop his
ID? This was a minor traffic infraction, he might have had a warning
but it is unlikely that there would be a ticket if he showed the least
amount of contrition.

Live like a thug, die like a thug
 

wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 21:32:04 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:01:06 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:57:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/17-...lexing-rights/

http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/E...307979961.html


Actually sounds like the cop murdered the kid. Maybe the kid was defending
himself from an out of control officer. Ripping the kid out of the car for
flashing lights and then conveniently the body cam stopped recording.

Fortunately the cop had a camera and it looks like the kid was just
being an asshole. He refused to come up with any ID 7 times, then when
the cop said he was under arrest the kid started a fight with the cop,
going for his gun according to the cop. The cop did get banged up a
bit.

Act like a thug, die like a thug.

What the hell ever happened to the idea that it was a good thing to
talk yourself out of a ticket?



I think the kid was out of control, but a cop should be able to subdue an
asshole without having to shoot him 7 times. And with a camera that
conveniently stops.

It stopped after the kid started fighting with the cop.
What was he supposed to do. The taser didn't help.
I suppose dumping a whole can of pepper spray into the car might have
done something but there was the distinct possibility that this could
have degraded into a high speed chase if he didn't detain the kid.
Then innocent people are at risk.

What was so hard about just following the law and handing the cop his
ID? This was a minor traffic infraction, he might have had a warning
but it is unlikely that there would be a ticket if he showed the least
amount of contrition.


It's the ripping the kid out of the car starting and the camera turning
off, that makes this a bad case. Should have called for backup when the
idiot got belligerent.

Live like a thug, die like a thug
 

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 1:36:18 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 21:32:04 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:01:06 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:57:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/17-...lexing-rights/

http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/E...307979961.html


Actually sounds like the cop murdered the kid. Maybe the kid was defending
himself from an out of control officer. Ripping the kid out of the car for
flashing lights and then conveniently the body cam stopped recording.

Fortunately the cop had a camera and it looks like the kid was just
being an asshole. He refused to come up with any ID 7 times, then when
the cop said he was under arrest the kid started a fight with the cop,
going for his gun according to the cop. The cop did get banged up a
bit.

Act like a thug, die like a thug.

What the hell ever happened to the idea that it was a good thing to
talk yourself out of a ticket?



I think the kid was out of control, but a cop should be able to subdue an
asshole without having to shoot him 7 times. And with a camera that
conveniently stops.

It stopped after the kid started fighting with the cop.
What was he supposed to do. The taser didn't help.
I suppose dumping a whole can of pepper spray into the car might have
done something but there was the distinct possibility that this could
have degraded into a high speed chase if he didn't detain the kid.
Then innocent people are at risk.

What was so hard about just following the law and handing the cop his
ID? This was a minor traffic infraction, he might have had a warning
but it is unlikely that there would be a ticket if he showed the least
amount of contrition.


It's the ripping the kid out of the car starting and the camera turning
off, that makes this a bad case. Should have called for backup when the
idiot got belligerent.

Go back and listen closely. He did call for backup, twice.

Live like a thug, die like a thug
 

On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 10:36:19 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 21:32:04 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:01:06 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 6:57:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/17-...lexing-rights/

http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/E...307979961.html


Actually sounds like the cop murdered the kid. Maybe the kid was defending
himself from an out of control officer. Ripping the kid out of the car for
flashing lights and then conveniently the body cam stopped recording.

Fortunately the cop had a camera and it looks like the kid was just
being an asshole. He refused to come up with any ID 7 times, then when
the cop said he was under arrest the kid started a fight with the cop,
going for his gun according to the cop. The cop did get banged up a
bit.

Act like a thug, die like a thug.

What the hell ever happened to the idea that it was a good thing to
talk yourself out of a ticket?



I think the kid was out of control, but a cop should be able to subdue an
asshole without having to shoot him 7 times. And with a camera that
conveniently stops.

It stopped after the kid started fighting with the cop.
What was he supposed to do. The taser didn't help.
I suppose dumping a whole can of pepper spray into the car might have
done something but there was the distinct possibility that this could
have degraded into a high speed chase if he didn't detain the kid.
Then innocent people are at risk.

What was so hard about just following the law and handing the cop his
ID? This was a minor traffic infraction, he might have had a warning
but it is unlikely that there would be a ticket if he showed the least
amount of contrition.


It's the ripping the kid out of the car starting and the camera turning
off, that makes this a bad case. Should have called for backup when the
idiot got belligerent.

He did call, a couple of times.
The camera was knocked out in the fight.
This kid had several chances to comply and he didn't.
I would not expect this to end well if it was me but I know there is
no fighting with the cops, you always lose.
The fact is, you have no rights on the side of the road ... none.
The SCOTUS has reaffirmed that many times.