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October 16th 15 06:00 AM

Can VW survive?

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:45:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
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On 10/15/2015 11:12 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:27:54 -0400,
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As far as I know Florida does not test at all.

I looked and they did stop it based on the air quality measurements.
It used to just be the big cities (Orlando, Jax, Tambay and the SE
coast)

I was surprised that Florida didn't require an emissions or safety
inspection at all back in 2001 when we first bought a house down there.

Massachusetts used to have a yearly safety and emissions test that
included putting your car on a dynamometer and measuring the emissions
from the exhaust system at various speeds and loads. The state did away
with the active emission test a few years ago and now just rely
on the computer read out from the OBD. Still have to undergo a
general safety inspection every year though. Lights, ball joints,
tires, exhaust, etc.

Obviously if you are counting on the computer to rat itself out, it is
not going to happen if the programmer doesn't want it to.

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October 16th 15 06:02 AM

Can VW survive?

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:36:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/15/2015 9:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:59:15 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:35:13 -0400, wrote:

They still have not figured out how to deal with all of the
non-conforming cars in the US that suddenly became scrap metal (you
can't legally drive them here)

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It should be easy enough to reprogram the computer to make them
conform. They won't have the same power and economy however. There
will no doubt be black market mods to reset them back after the dealer
"de-powers" them. I suspect many will just continue to drive them as
is.

Now I am hearing rumors that the EPA is looking at the other VW cars
(Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini etc) to see if they are cheating too. It
is hard to believe that they spent all this time on a software trick
like this and only used it once.
I wonder how some of those cars perform in "more power" mode when it
is a rich guy who doesn't care about the fuel gauge, only seeing the
speedometer move..

The initial reports I heard included some Porsche models ... which is
owned by VW. Also, only diesel powered cars are affected, not gas, as
I understand it.

That is what they have discovered anyway. The rumor is that they may
have tweaked performance over emissions on the fast cars.

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