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[email protected] October 15th 15 01:16 AM

#41
 
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:01:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/14/15 3:43 PM, wrote:



What's the mass murder rate in Japan?


JPS was talking about suicide, the bulk of gun deaths here.
Mass killing makes the news but it doesn't even bump the needle on the
murder rate unless you count gang shootings where they kill several
people at once.




Gotta love how hard you fellas work to minimize the mass murder rate here.


The mass murder rate compared to the murder rate is pretty much
insignificant.
If you compare your chances of dying in a mass murder to what it is
for a 14-30 year old black man in Baltimore, you are getting down to
the "killed by a terrorist" kind of numbers.

BTW, the suicide rate for males in Japan is 26.9 per 100,000, compared
to 19.4 per 100,000 here.
Suicide is a holdover of Japanese society during its feudal times and in
World War II. I suppose mass murder is a holdover of American society.


But they seem very good at it without using guns.

BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?


Boating All Out October 15th 15 01:34 AM

#41
 
In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com, says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?


Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.


Califbill October 15th 15 02:34 AM

#41
 
Boating All Out wrote:
In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com, says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?


Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.



They are probably not exposed to the RAP culture.


Justan Olphart[_2_] October 15th 15 02:58 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/2015 9:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/15/15 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.


Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.


And you seem totally immersed in our gun culture. How did you get hooked?

[email protected] October 15th 15 03:29 PM

#41
 
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com, says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?


Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.


Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.

Keyser Söze October 15th 15 03:51 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/15 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?


Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.


Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.

[email protected] October 15th 15 04:46 PM

#41
 
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.


Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.


Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.

Keyser Söze October 15th 15 05:21 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/15 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.


Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...

Califbill October 15th 15 05:41 PM

#41
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/15/15 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.


Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...


The NZ kid had availability.


Keyser Söze October 15th 15 05:49 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/15 12:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/15/15 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.

Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...


The NZ kid had availability.



Gosh, Bilious, didn't you see the part about "...the failure to detect
most of those with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of
shootings in this country and the acceptance of it by people like
you..." as differences between 'Merica and other modern western nations
where firearms are available?

Guess not.


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