On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 07:09:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Or, maybe I just need a new computer!
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It is just about as easy to reload windoze as it is to start over with
a new computer. You get most of the benefits when it is a soft ware
problem and the hassle factor is about the same.
Usually the problem is all the crap that gets loaded and some software
will not play well; with others.

If you had an image of the machine when it was new, this is very easy
to do.

You might try going to system restore and loading the oldest check
point you have.

I just loaded a machine for my new TV with XP SP3, the 100+ updates,
the latest firefox, flash and silverlight. Everything I have tried to
play so far, works.

On 10/8/15 10:19 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 07:09:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Or, maybe I just need a new computer!
--

It is just about as easy to reload windoze as it is to start over with
a new computer. You get most of the benefits when it is a soft ware
problem and the hassle factor is about the same.
Usually the problem is all the crap that gets loaded and some software
will not play well; with others.

If you had an image of the machine when it was new, this is very easy
to do.

You might try going to system restore and loading the oldest check
point you have.

I just loaded a machine for my new TV with XP SP3, the 100+ updates,
the latest firefox, flash and silverlight. Everything I have tried to
play so far, works.



Sometimes it is easier to wipe the hard drive and reinstall Windoze from
scratch. I decided not to trash my wife's old computer...the hard drive
was bad...so I picked up a new HD and reinstalled Windoze from a thumb
drive I got from Dell. It'll be the computer we have available for
"guests."

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:19:12 -0400, wrote:

I just loaded a machine for my new TV with XP SP3, the 100+ updates,
the latest firefox, flash and silverlight. Everything I have tried to
play so far, works.

===

If that's too up to date for you, I think there are still CDs for
Win2K and Win98 around here someplace.

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:24:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:19:12 -0400, wrote:

I just loaded a machine for my new TV with XP SP3, the 100+ updates,
the latest firefox, flash and silverlight. Everything I have tried to
play so far, works.

===

If that's too up to date for you, I think there are still CDs for
Win2K and Win98 around here someplace.

One of our developers just got back from an "ethical hacking" class. Old operating systems (like XP) are prime targets for hackers since they aren't updated any longer. I had an old Aspire One notebook running XP that had all the latest patches applied and had been booted and running for a long time. A couple of weeks ago I rebooted it for some reason, and it started applying "1 of 5" updates before it shut down. I pulled the battery before it could do much, then took it off my network. It'll get freshly loaded with Windows before it goes back on the network.

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 09:32:48 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:24:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:19:12 -0400, wrote:

I just loaded a machine for my new TV with XP SP3, the 100+ updates,
the latest firefox, flash and silverlight. Everything I have tried to
play so far, works.

===

If that's too up to date for you, I think there are still CDs for
Win2K and Win98 around here someplace.

One of our developers just got back from an "ethical hacking" class. Old operating systems (like XP) are prime targets for hackers since they aren't updated any longer. I had an old Aspire One notebook running XP that had all the latest patches applied and had been booted and running for a long time. A couple of weeks ago I rebooted it for some reason, and it started applying "1 of 5" updates before it shut down. I pulled the battery before it could do much, then took it off my network. It'll get freshly loaded with Windows before it goes back on the network.

Microsoft is still sending out updates occasionally, mostly for the
other components that you have installed. You also get that microsoft
malware removal tool every time. I have never seen it fix anything.

On 10/8/2015 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:19:12 -0400, wrote:

I just loaded a machine for my new TV with XP SP3, the 100+ updates,
the latest firefox, flash and silverlight. Everything I have tried to
play so far, works.

===

If that's too up to date for you, I think there are still CDs for
Win2K and Win98 around here someplace.

Dos 6.22 was the best ever.

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 10:55:39 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 10/8/2015 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:19:12 -0400, wrote:

I just loaded a machine for my new TV with XP SP3, the 100+ updates,
the latest firefox, flash and silverlight. Everything I have tried to
play so far, works.

===

If that's too up to date for you, I think there are still CDs for
Win2K and Win98 around here someplace.

Dos 6.22 was the best ever.

7.01 isn't bad but I really used 6.3 the most.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 12:24:06 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:19:12 -0400, wrote:

I just loaded a machine for my new TV with XP SP3, the 100+ updates,
the latest firefox, flash and silverlight. Everything I have tried to
play so far, works.

===

If that's too up to date for you, I think there are still CDs for
Win2K and Win98 around here someplace.

I still have a w/98 machine in regular service here and the ISO to
burn a disk whenever I can't find one but I have plenty.

Nobody has convinced me that there is anything wrong with XP. The lack
of over the top security on the network is really a pain in the ass
for me.
W/7 seems to be designed for people who want to run unsecured WiFi.
My "home" network is all hard wired. Anyone who can get through 2
layers of hardware firewall and a software firewall would not have any
problem cracking into 7 anyway.
If they come into my house and plug into me network, stealing my music
and movies will not be my biggest concern.

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 12:24:06 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:19:12 -0400, wrote:

I just loaded a machine for my new TV with XP SP3, the 100+ updates,
the latest firefox, flash and silverlight. Everything I have tried to
play so far, works.

===

If that's too up to date for you, I think there are still CDs for
Win2K and Win98 around here someplace.

I still have a w/98 machine in regular service here and the ISO to
burn a disk whenever I can't find one but I have plenty.

Nobody has convinced me that there is anything wrong with XP. The lack
of over the top security on the network is really a pain in the ass
for me.
W/7 seems to be designed for people who want to run unsecured WiFi.
My "home" network is all hard wired. Anyone who can get through 2
layers of hardware firewall and a software firewall would not have any
problem cracking into 7 anyway.
If they come into my house and plug into me network, stealing my music
and movies will not be my biggest concern.

Never used WiFi. Win7 crashed about 1/5 as often as XP.
Now using Win 10. It's the cat's meow. Best yet. So far.

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 13:56:13 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 12:24:06 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:19:12 -0400, wrote:

I just loaded a machine for my new TV with XP SP3, the 100+ updates,
the latest firefox, flash and silverlight. Everything I have tried to
play so far, works.

===

If that's too up to date for you, I think there are still CDs for
Win2K and Win98 around here someplace.

I still have a w/98 machine in regular service here and the ISO to
burn a disk whenever I can't find one but I have plenty.

Nobody has convinced me that there is anything wrong with XP. The lack
of over the top security on the network is really a pain in the ass
for me.
W/7 seems to be designed for people who want to run unsecured WiFi.
My "home" network is all hard wired. Anyone who can get through 2
layers of hardware firewall and a software firewall would not have any
problem cracking into 7 anyway.
If they come into my house and plug into me network, stealing my music
and movies will not be my biggest concern.

Never used WiFi. Win7 crashed about 1/5 as often as XP.
Now using Win 10. It's the cat's meow. Best yet. So far.

I have XP machines here that go months between reboots. I am not sure
what you were doing to crash XP but it is not a problem for me. My
software stays pretty static tho.

Let's see how your 10 runs when you accumulate the same amount of junk
as the average web browsing XP machine accumulated over a half dozen
years or so.