Magazines...
 

My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Magazines...
 

On 9/28/2015 7:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:

My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Better hope that doesn't happen. Otherwise you will be charged with
premeditated murder.

Magazines...
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Magazines...
 

On 9/28/2015 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.

I wonder how many magazines Krause will render useless trying to do that.

Magazines...
 

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Magazines...
 

On 9/28/2015 1:27 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


My AR 20 mag has a rivet in the side to stop the follower. Plastic mag,
could probably just punch out the brass rivet.

Might be a delicate operation on a plastic magazine. Grinding the head
off and pushing the rivet out might be safer.

Magazines...
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.

Magazines...
 

On 9/28/2015 1:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 2:39 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:26:56 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder,
that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of
like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I
bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be
used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each
other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop"
welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you
can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you
thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun
now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Funny, assuming you're not telling another lie, one of our more astute
boaters said
to me a couple weeks ago, "Just watch, folks are talking about the
mini-14, Harry
will be buying one pretty soon."

You are so predictable, Krause. Even if it's just another lie, you're
predictable.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've
never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Astute boaters in rec.boats is an oxymoron.

TDC

Magazines...
 

wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


My AR 20 mag has a rivet in the side to stop the follower. Plastic mag,
could probably just punch out the brass rivet.

Magazines...
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:26:56 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Funny, assuming you're not telling another lie, one of our more astute boaters said
to me a couple weeks ago, "Just watch, folks are talking about the mini-14, Harry
will be buying one pretty soon."

You are so predictable, Krause. Even if it's just another lie, you're predictable.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Magazines...
 

On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

Magazines...
 

On 9/28/15 2:39 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:26:56 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Funny, assuming you're not telling another lie, one of our more astute boaters said
to me a couple weeks ago, "Just watch, folks are talking about the mini-14, Harry
will be buying one pretty soon."

You are so predictable, Krause. Even if it's just another lie, you're predictable.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Astute boaters in rec.boats is an oxymoron.

Magazines...
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:55:09 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:39 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:26:56 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Funny, assuming you're not telling another lie, one of our more astute boaters said
to me a couple weeks ago, "Just watch, folks are talking about the mini-14, Harry
will be buying one pretty soon."

You are so predictable, Krause. Even if it's just another lie, you're predictable.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Astute boaters in rec.boats is an oxymoron.

Yet you are here continuously.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Magazines...
 

On 9/28/15 3:40 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:55:09 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:39 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:26:56 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Funny, assuming you're not telling another lie, one of our more astute boaters said
to me a couple weeks ago, "Just watch, folks are talking about the mini-14, Harry
will be buying one pretty soon."

You are so predictable, Krause. Even if it's just another lie, you're predictable.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Astute boaters in rec.boats is an oxymoron.

Yet you are here continuously.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


So which mini 14 did you get, johnnymop?

Magazines...
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:51:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

Whatever you like, I was just pointing out the 10 round mags are
available. I actually like the 30 rd for my M1A. It works as a rest on
the bench. I have no problem controlling my rate of fire.

Magazines...
 

On 9/28/2015 6:01 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:51:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop"
welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

Whatever you like, I was just pointing out the 10 round mags are
available. I actually like the 30 rd for my M1A. It works as a rest on
the bench. I have no problem controlling my rate of fire.


I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

Kind of paradoxical for the guy who doesn't mind ****ing away dollar
after dollar on diesel fuel for his (imaginary?) boat that goes nowhere.

Magazines...
 

On 9/28/15 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:51:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

Whatever you like, I was just pointing out the 10 round mags are
available. I actually like the 30 rd for my M1A. It works as a rest on
the bench. I have no problem controlling my rate of fire.


I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:48:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 3:40 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:55:09 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:39 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:26:56 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Gosh, and 6-8 months ago when I first started discussing them you thought they were
an inaccurate piece of crap. I suppose Ruger is making a better gun now, eh?

What a friggin' joke you are, Krause.
--

They're pretty good and accurate enough for plinking from 50 to 100
yards or so, and they do a nice job on plastic two liter sodapop
bottles, not that you could hit one at those distances. Ruger doesn't
make "crap" firearms, as far as I know. I like my Mini 14 for a couple
of reasons, one of which is that it is lighter than most AR15s.

Weren't you the one whining that they were "too short" for your
orangutan-length arms?

Funny, assuming you're not telling another lie, one of our more astute boaters said
to me a couple weeks ago, "Just watch, folks are talking about the mini-14, Harry
will be buying one pretty soon."

You are so predictable, Krause. Even if it's just another lie, you're predictable.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Astute boaters in rec.boats is an oxymoron.

Yet you are here continuously.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


So which mini 14 did you get, johnnymop?

Read.

No, I wasn't putting down the rifle for any reason - you were. I've never fired one.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:18:08 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 9/28/2015 6:01 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:51:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop"
welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

Whatever you like, I was just pointing out the 10 round mags are
available. I actually like the 30 rd for my M1A. It works as a rest on
the bench. I have no problem controlling my rate of fire.


I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

Kind of paradoxical for the guy who doesn't mind ****ing away dollar
after dollar on diesel fuel for his (imaginary?) boat that goes nowhere.

He's suffering from lack of self-control, obviously. Look at what he posts here.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 9/28/15 7:56 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:48:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


So which mini 14 did you get, johnnymop?

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 20:04:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 7:56 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:48:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


So which mini 14 did you get, johnnymop?



Do you seriously think I bought a gun that you had spent so much time and effort
putting down?
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Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 9/28/15 8:12 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 20:04:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 7:56 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:48:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


So which mini 14 did you get, johnnymop?



Do you seriously think I bought a gun that you had spent so much time and effort
putting down?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow. I keep hoping you are not the nitwit you appear to be, but...

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On 9/28/2015 7:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:18:08 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

Kind of paradoxical for the guy who doesn't mind ****ing away dollar
after dollar on diesel fuel for his (imaginary?) boat that goes nowhere.

===

Imaginary boats are very economical to own. The real thing, not so
much. If Harry actually did buy a boat, the IRS would have it in a
heart beat.

So you're saying the reason Harry doesn't hold titles to anything is
that the IRS would confiscate them to settle back taxes. Another reason
could be that his allowance doesn't afford him the privileged of
purchasing anything of consequence.

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Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/28/2015 7:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:

My new little Ruger Mini-14 came with one magazine, a five-rounder, that
fits flush and completely inside the bottom of the rifle. I kind of like
that for a couple of reasons:

1. it tends to slow down the pace of shooting, at least for me, and
slower shooting tends to be more accurate, at least for me.

2. with no magazine protruding from the bottom of the rifle, when I bag
rest the firearm, there are many places along the stock that can be used
for that purpose without the bag and a magazine banging into each other.

Ruger apparently makes 5, 10, 20, and 30 round mags for these rifles.
The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

http://tinyurl.com/nrhurzr

I have a pair of 20-round mags for the rifle I legally bought at a
Virginia gun shop. Such are the vagaries of our state's laws...you can't
buy a 20-rounder here, but you can buy one out of state, bring it into
Maryland, and use it here. But if I buy any more mags, they'll be the
five-rounders. The way I see it, if I can't drop an attacking,
brain-dead, right-wing zombie with five rounds, 20 rounds won't do the
job, either. :)

Better hope that doesn't happen. Otherwise you will be charged with
premeditated murder.


Harry's little buddy in CA hasn't chimed in. What a good, dumb, lemming...

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:18:08 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

Kind of paradoxical for the guy who doesn't mind ****ing away dollar
after dollar on diesel fuel for his (imaginary?) boat that goes nowhere.

===

Imaginary boats are very economical to own. The real thing, not so
much. If Harry actually did buy a boat, the IRS would have it in a
heart beat.

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 19:01:20 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/28/15 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:51:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:11:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The 10-rounders, I am told, are simply 20-rounders with a "stop" welded
inside so they cannot be converted to 20-rounders, and that makes the
10-rounders legal for sale in states where larger cap mags are
restricted (such as Maryland).

There are several manufacturers of true 10 round mags.
Those you are talking about are simply "loophole" products that are
pretty easy to convert to 20s.
Typically they just weld an extension on the follower that will break
right off (they did on my M1A mags), or you can get a new follower.


Even so, they're still longer than the five rounders and will stick out
the bottom of the rifle. Unless the zombies attack, I'll stick with the
shorter mags.

Whatever you like, I was just pointing out the 10 round mags are
available. I actually like the 30 rd for my M1A. It works as a rest on
the bench. I have no problem controlling my rate of fire.


I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.
I don't need that distraction. I usually load up 3 30s and I still
shoot them pretty slow.
On days when it is not crowded and you can move around I will shoot
some at 100 and some at 200. When I was getting my scope dialed in I
started at 50. I really hate the GI mount and I am thinking about
getting another system for it.
I just have a hard time justifying it for a gun I don't really shoot
that often.

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 20:57:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:18:08 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

Kind of paradoxical for the guy who doesn't mind ****ing away dollar
after dollar on diesel fuel for his (imaginary?) boat that goes nowhere.

===

Imaginary boats are very economical to own. The real thing, not so
much. If Harry actually did buy a boat, the IRS would have it in a
heart beat.

My POS beater boat is pretty cheap to own and it does everything I
want to do.
When the DEP guys need a work boat, it works for us and I can crash
into the mangroves to retrieve trash or rescue a bird wrapped up in
monofilament.

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On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 8:18:59 PM UTC-5, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/28/2015 7:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:18:08 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

Kind of paradoxical for the guy who doesn't mind ****ing away dollar
after dollar on diesel fuel for his (imaginary?) boat that goes nowhere.

===

Imaginary boats are very economical to own. The real thing, not so
much. If Harry actually did buy a boat, the IRS would have it in a
heart beat.

So you're saying the reason Harry doesn't hold titles to anything is
that the IRS would confiscate them to settle back taxes. Another reason
could be that his allowance doesn't afford him the privileged of
purchasing anything of consequence.

He may hold a title to his wheel chair.

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On 9/29/2015 10:50 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/29/15 11:38 AM, John H. wrote:


I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--



I don't have to question whether you are a racist piece of ****...it's
there for anyone to see except, of course, for some of your equally
racist buddies here.

I suspect that you are the only one with that viewpoint.
Your lucid moments are becoming fewer and farther apart.

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 19:10:18 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 8:18:59 PM UTC-5, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/28/2015 7:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:18:08 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I don't, either. I just like to be slow and methodical about shooting
off ammo that costs more than a quarter a round. The small magazines and
the time taken to load them helps.

Kind of paradoxical for the guy who doesn't mind ****ing away dollar
after dollar on diesel fuel for his (imaginary?) boat that goes nowhere.

===

Imaginary boats are very economical to own. The real thing, not so
much. If Harry actually did buy a boat, the IRS would have it in a
heart beat.

So you're saying the reason Harry doesn't hold titles to anything is
that the IRS would confiscate them to settle back taxes. Another reason
could be that his allowance doesn't afford him the privileged of
purchasing anything of consequence.

He may hold a title to his wheel chair.

I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 9/29/15 11:38 AM, John H. wrote:


I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--



I don't have to question whether you are a racist piece of ****...it's
there for anyone to see except, of course, for some of your equally
racist buddies here.

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:50:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 11:38 AM, John H. wrote:


I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--



I don't have to question whether you are a racist piece of ****...it's
there for anyone to see except, of course, for some of your equally
racist buddies here.

Yup, I'm almost as racist as all the rest of your racist Republicans, not to mention
you.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:57:28 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 9/29/2015 10:50 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/29/15 11:38 AM, John H. wrote:


I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--



I don't have to question whether you are a racist piece of ****...it's
there for anyone to see except, of course, for some of your equally
racist buddies here.

I suspect that you are the only one with that viewpoint.
Your lucid moments are becoming fewer and farther apart.

Getting repeatedly caught in lies must be having a big mental toll.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 9/29/15 12:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:50:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 11:38 AM, John H. wrote:


I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--



I don't have to question whether you are a racist piece of ****...it's
there for anyone to see except, of course, for some of your equally
racist buddies here.

Yup, I'm almost as racist as all the rest of your racist Republicans, not to mention
you.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Actually, you are just as racist as the Republicans who are racist. Not
almost.

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:20:41 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 12:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:50:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 11:38 AM, John H. wrote:


I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--



I don't have to question whether you are a racist piece of ****...it's
there for anyone to see except, of course, for some of your equally
racist buddies here.

Yup, I'm almost as racist as all the rest of your racist Republicans, not to mention
you.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Actually, you are just as racist as the Republicans who are racist. Not
almost.

All Republicans are racist, I'm a Republican, therefore I'm racist. Hell, I'm almost
as racist as you.

Krause logic.

What unit was that you were with in Vietnam, Krause?

Does getting repeatedly caught in lying take a mental toll, Krause?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 9/29/15 12:27 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:20:41 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 12:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:50:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 11:38 AM, John H. wrote:


I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--



I don't have to question whether you are a racist piece of ****...it's
there for anyone to see except, of course, for some of your equally
racist buddies here.

Yup, I'm almost as racist as all the rest of your racist Republicans, not to mention
you.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Actually, you are just as racist as the Republicans who are racist. Not
almost.

All Republicans are racist, I'm a Republican, therefore I'm racist. Hell, I'm almost
as racist as you.

Krause logic.

What unit was that you were with in Vietnam, Krause?

Does getting repeatedly caught in lying take a mental toll, Krause?
--



*All* Republicans are racists? Is that *your* expert opinion, based upon
your associations with the GOPer buddies?

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:30:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 12:27 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:20:41 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 12:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:50:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 11:38 AM, John H. wrote:


I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--



I don't have to question whether you are a racist piece of ****...it's
there for anyone to see except, of course, for some of your equally
racist buddies here.

Yup, I'm almost as racist as all the rest of your racist Republicans, not to mention
you.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Actually, you are just as racist as the Republicans who are racist. Not
almost.

All Republicans are racist, I'm a Republican, therefore I'm racist. Hell, I'm almost
as racist as you.

Krause logic.

What unit was that you were with in Vietnam, Krause?

Does getting repeatedly caught in lying take a mental toll, Krause?
--



*All* Republicans are racists? Is that *your* expert opinion, based upon
your associations with the GOPer buddies?

Your words, Krause, and you're the self-proclaimed expert.

Eat 'em.

Tell us about that Vietnam service again, liar.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 9/29/2015 11:16 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:57:28 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 9/29/2015 10:50 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/29/15 11:38 AM, John H. wrote:


I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--



I don't have to question whether you are a racist piece of ****...it's
there for anyone to see except, of course, for some of your equally
racist buddies here.

I suspect that you are the only one with that viewpoint.
Your lucid moments are becoming fewer and farther apart.

Getting repeatedly caught in lies must be having a big mental toll.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

It has. Can't you tell. All you need to do is look at how lame his
comments are. A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

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On 9/29/2015 11:30 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/29/15 12:27 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:20:41 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 12:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:50:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/29/15 11:38 AM, John H. wrote:


I question his ownership of a mini-14 also.
--



I don't have to question whether you are a racist piece of ****...it's
there for anyone to see except, of course, for some of your equally
racist buddies here.

Yup, I'm almost as racist as all the rest of your racist
Republicans, not to mention
you.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Actually, you are just as racist as the Republicans who are racist. Not
almost.

All Republicans are racist, I'm a Republican, therefore I'm racist.
Hell, I'm almost
as racist as you.

Krause logic.

What unit was that you were with in Vietnam, Krause?

Does getting repeatedly caught in lying take a mental toll, Krause?
--



*All* Republicans are racists? Is that *your* expert opinion, based upon
your associations with the GOPer buddies?

I know all republicans aren't racist just as I know all democrats are
not as loony as you are. It's amazing if you are not under close
psychiatric supervision and care.