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Justan Olphart[_2_] September 5th 15 12:50 AM

Update on Clerk Kim Davis
 
On 9/4/2015 4:33 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 16:04:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/4/15 3:56 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:28:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


You might want to read the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th
Amendment, among other documents.


It is interesting that the left is not willing to extend the full
faith and credit of concealed carry rights across state lines.


The only humor I find in this is the clerk's marriage and pregnancy
history. It's quite colorful and demonstrates her hypocrisy about her
alleged religious beliefs.

That was before she was "saved" ;-)


That's one of the funniest things about christianity...marry four times,
have babies by a guy you are not married to at the time, but you marry
later, maybe, while you are still married to a different guy
and...voila, find Jesus and you are "saved." Heck, different
circumstances, but I'll bet Dick Cheney can be saved, too. :)


She'd have been much better off as a beheaded Muslim, no?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Aint no sunshine where KKKrause's head is.

Justan Olphart[_2_] September 5th 15 12:55 AM

Update on Clerk Kim Davis
 
On 9/4/2015 1:03 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:19:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:



Actually, it was an attempt by a christian ayatollah wannabe to exert
the "authority" of her religious beliefs over civil law. That's really
*not* the way it is supposed to be done in this country, yet. If you
want religious law imposed over civil matters, there's always Iran and
Afghanistan.


You are right in a way
It would have been just as easy for her to say she was simply hog tied
by the court when they threw out the law that regulates licenses and
she is waiting for guidance from the legislature before she can start
issuing licenses again.
Both sides were simply trying to advance an agenda.

It does bring up an interesting point. What is the federal standard
for what actually constitutes marriage? It is totally a state issue
and the states could have totally different standards.
This is even more confusing since they have thrown DOMA (1 U.S. Code §
7) out.
Basically if a state says you are "married", all of the other states
(and the feds) must recognize that and what that actually means is up
to the state. If the state statute is invalid, is anyone in that state
still married? Can anyone get married? Maybe not.

It is an interesting legal conundrum.

Life would be much simpler if we just pretended to be married like Harry
does. You can bet that Krause and Karen don't pay the marriage tax.

Keyser Söze September 5th 15 01:16 AM

Update on Clerk Kim Davis
 
On 9/4/15 5:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/4/2015 4:49 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article qtljuadp2f0gp99jikqfe58pa3iprpngbo@
4ax.com, says...


It is as complex as any ambulance chasing lawyer wants to make it. The
fact is, the SCOTUS has invalidated the only federal law defining
marriage and now this court has invalidated the Kentucky statute,
along with those in many other states. (man/wonan is so entwined in
the language that it is hard to separate without legislation)
The only reason this has become a religious mater is because Ms Davis
wanted it to be. She did stop issuing ANY marriage licenses and she
was legally on sound footing if she chose to go that way


Legally sound? She's in jail.
The only "political" part is coming from her.



My wife and I lived in a rented apartment in Zion, Ill. for almost two
years in the early 70's. Zion was founded around 1905 by a very
religious guy who wanted to create a "Christian Utopia". No drinking,
smoking ... the original city council didn't even allow a doctor to set
up shop in the town because they believed in "divine healing".

Even when we lived there the town was still dry. No booze or beer could
be sold anywhere within the city limits.

I suppose if then were now, a federal judge could come along and order
the grocery stores to start carrying/selling beer and ordering the city
council to approve permits to open liquor stores.



How interesting. What part of the Constitution, Amendments, or civil
rights legislation would that fall under?

[email protected] September 5th 15 01:45 AM

Update on Clerk Kim Davis
 
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 16:02:10 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/4/15 3:56 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:28:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


You might want to read the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th
Amendment, among other documents.


It is interesting that the left is not willing to extend the full
faith and credit of concealed carry rights across state lines.



Oh? Is there a federal regulation that allows concealed carry rights
across state lines?


Is there a federal regulation on marriage?

Not since DOMA was tossed.

Next?

[email protected] September 5th 15 01:46 AM

Update on Clerk Kim Davis
 
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 16:04:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/4/15 3:56 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:28:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


You might want to read the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th
Amendment, among other documents.


It is interesting that the left is not willing to extend the full
faith and credit of concealed carry rights across state lines.


The only humor I find in this is the clerk's marriage and pregnancy
history. It's quite colorful and demonstrates her hypocrisy about her
alleged religious beliefs.


That was before she was "saved" ;-)


That's one of the funniest things about christianity...marry four times,
have babies by a guy you are not married to at the time, but you marry
later, maybe, while you are still married to a different guy
and...voila, find Jesus and you are "saved." Heck, different
circumstances, but I'll bet Dick Cheney can be saved, too. :)


That is why the religion is attractive,. You can ask for forgiveness
on your death bed and be saved.

Keyser Söze September 5th 15 01:50 AM

Update on Clerk Kim Davis
 
On 9/4/15 8:46 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 16:04:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/4/15 3:56 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:28:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


You might want to read the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th
Amendment, among other documents.


It is interesting that the left is not willing to extend the full
faith and credit of concealed carry rights across state lines.


The only humor I find in this is the clerk's marriage and pregnancy
history. It's quite colorful and demonstrates her hypocrisy about her
alleged religious beliefs.

That was before she was "saved" ;-)


That's one of the funniest things about christianity...marry four times,
have babies by a guy you are not married to at the time, but you marry
later, maybe, while you are still married to a different guy
and...voila, find Jesus and you are "saved." Heck, different
circumstances, but I'll bet Dick Cheney can be saved, too. :)


That is why the religion is attractive,. You can ask for forgiveness
on your death bed and be saved.


You mean, of course, delude yourself into thinking you are "saved."

Keyser Söze September 5th 15 01:51 AM

Update on Clerk Kim Davis
 
On 9/4/15 8:45 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 16:02:10 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/4/15 3:56 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:28:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:


You might want to read the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th
Amendment, among other documents.


It is interesting that the left is not willing to extend the full
faith and credit of concealed carry rights across state lines.



Oh? Is there a federal regulation that allows concealed carry rights
across state lines?


Is there a federal regulation on marriage?

Not since DOMA was tossed.

Next?


Specious.

Califbill September 5th 15 01:52 AM

Update on Clerk Kim Davis
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/4/15 5:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/4/2015 4:49 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article qtljuadp2f0gp99jikqfe58pa3iprpngbo@
4ax.com, says...


It is as complex as any ambulance chasing lawyer wants to make it. The
fact is, the SCOTUS has invalidated the only federal law defining
marriage and now this court has invalidated the Kentucky statute,
along with those in many other states. (man/wonan is so entwined in
the language that it is hard to separate without legislation)
The only reason this has become a religious mater is because Ms Davis
wanted it to be. She did stop issuing ANY marriage licenses and she
was legally on sound footing if she chose to go that way

Legally sound? She's in jail.
The only "political" part is coming from her.



My wife and I lived in a rented apartment in Zion, Ill. for almost two
years in the early 70's. Zion was founded around 1905 by a very
religious guy who wanted to create a "Christian Utopia". No drinking,
smoking ... the original city council didn't even allow a doctor to set
up shop in the town because they believed in "divine healing".

Even when we lived there the town was still dry. No booze or beer could
be sold anywhere within the city limits.

I suppose if then were now, a federal judge could come along and order
the grocery stores to start carrying/selling beer and ordering the city
council to approve permits to open liquor stores.



How interesting. What part of the Constitution, Amendments, or civil
rights legislation would that fall under?


Equal rights.

[email protected] September 5th 15 01:52 AM

Update on Clerk Kim Davis
 
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:49:19 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article qtljuadp2f0gp99jikqfe58pa3iprpngbo@
4ax.com, says...


It is as complex as any ambulance chasing lawyer wants to make it. The
fact is, the SCOTUS has invalidated the only federal law defining
marriage and now this court has invalidated the Kentucky statute,
along with those in many other states. (man/wonan is so entwined in
the language that it is hard to separate without legislation)
The only reason this has become a religious mater is because Ms Davis
wanted it to be. She did stop issuing ANY marriage licenses and she
was legally on sound footing if she chose to go that way


Legally sound? She's in jail.
The only "political" part is coming from her.


Rosa Parks was in jail too, so what.

Her actions are religious, not political.
Unfortunately that makes it political.

I have heard from Dan Savage and Rachel but we haven't heard much
from lawyers. I still contend, the Ky marriage statute was over turned
and the legislature has not replaced it, so there is no law.
Same with DOMA.
The court does not write law, they just over turn law.

I wonder how long it will be before someone who wants to dump their
spouse, says the marriage in one of these states never legally existed
because the law was flawed at the time.

[email protected] September 5th 15 01:54 AM

Update on Clerk Kim Davis
 
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 17:17:49 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/4/2015 4:49 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article qtljuadp2f0gp99jikqfe58pa3iprpngbo@
4ax.com, says...


It is as complex as any ambulance chasing lawyer wants to make it. The
fact is, the SCOTUS has invalidated the only federal law defining
marriage and now this court has invalidated the Kentucky statute,
along with those in many other states. (man/wonan is so entwined in
the language that it is hard to separate without legislation)
The only reason this has become a religious mater is because Ms Davis
wanted it to be. She did stop issuing ANY marriage licenses and she
was legally on sound footing if she chose to go that way


Legally sound? She's in jail.
The only "political" part is coming from her.



My wife and I lived in a rented apartment in Zion, Ill. for almost two
years in the early 70's. Zion was founded around 1905 by a very
religious guy who wanted to create a "Christian Utopia". No drinking,
smoking ... the original city council didn't even allow a doctor to set
up shop in the town because they believed in "divine healing".

Even when we lived there the town was still dry. No booze or beer could
be sold anywhere within the city limits.

I suppose if then were now, a federal judge could come along and order
the grocery stores to start carrying/selling beer and ordering the city
council to approve permits to open liquor stores.



.... or an abortion clinic. ;-)


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