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[email protected] September 3rd 15 07:24 AM

China and Japan
 
China had the biggest military parade in their history this week and
it was clearly aimed at Japan. (Their first major celebration of the
1945 defeat of Japan). This is happening in the midst of territorial
disputes.
Will that be the next place we see a war?

It is amusing that they are making it sound l;ike Mao's troops pretty
much beat Japan by themselves and the reality is that the nationalist
army was the only significant force. I guess they waited 70 years and
hope nobody remembers.

John H.[_5_] September 3rd 15 12:18 PM

China and Japan
 
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 02:24:34 -0400, wrote:

China had the biggest military parade in their history this week and
it was clearly aimed at Japan. (Their first major celebration of the
1945 defeat of Japan). This is happening in the midst of territorial
disputes.
Will that be the next place we see a war?

It is amusing that they are making it sound l;ike Mao's troops pretty
much beat Japan by themselves and the reality is that the nationalist
army was the only significant force. I guess they waited 70 years and
hope nobody remembers.


Do you think our president would do anything about Chinese aggression? I don't.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] September 3rd 15 03:51 PM

China and Japan
 
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 07:18:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 02:24:34 -0400, wrote:

China had the biggest military parade in their history this week and
it was clearly aimed at Japan. (Their first major celebration of the
1945 defeat of Japan). This is happening in the midst of territorial
disputes.
Will that be the next place we see a war?

It is amusing that they are making it sound l;ike Mao's troops pretty
much beat Japan by themselves and the reality is that the nationalist
army was the only significant force. I guess they waited 70 years and
hope nobody remembers.


Do you think our president would do anything about Chinese aggression? I don't.


I am not sure I want them to if it is just about some unoccupied
islands that they have been arguing about for 200 years.

John H.[_5_] September 3rd 15 04:10 PM

China and Japan
 
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:51:14 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 07:18:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 02:24:34 -0400,
wrote:

China had the biggest military parade in their history this week and
it was clearly aimed at Japan. (Their first major celebration of the
1945 defeat of Japan). This is happening in the midst of territorial
disputes.
Will that be the next place we see a war?

It is amusing that they are making it sound l;ike Mao's troops pretty
much beat Japan by themselves and the reality is that the nationalist
army was the only significant force. I guess they waited 70 years and
hope nobody remembers.


Do you think our president would do anything about Chinese aggression? I don't.


I am not sure I want them to if it is just about some unoccupied
islands that they have been arguing about for 200 years.


Is that it? Or is that it 'for now'? At what point does the island taking stop?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] September 3rd 15 05:12 PM

China and Japan
 
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:10:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:51:14 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 07:18:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 02:24:34 -0400,
wrote:

China had the biggest military parade in their history this week and
it was clearly aimed at Japan. (Their first major celebration of the
1945 defeat of Japan). This is happening in the midst of territorial
disputes.
Will that be the next place we see a war?

It is amusing that they are making it sound l;ike Mao's troops pretty
much beat Japan by themselves and the reality is that the nationalist
army was the only significant force. I guess they waited 70 years and
hope nobody remembers.

Do you think our president would do anything about Chinese aggression? I don't.


I am not sure I want them to if it is just about some unoccupied
islands that they have been arguing about for 200 years.


Is that it? Or is that it 'for now'? At what point does the island taking stop?


It would certainly be a place where the ownership was less ambiguous.

Keyser Söze September 3rd 15 05:38 PM

China and Japan
 
On 9/3/15 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:10:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:51:14 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 07:18:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 02:24:34 -0400,
wrote:

China had the biggest military parade in their history this week and
it was clearly aimed at Japan. (Their first major celebration of the
1945 defeat of Japan). This is happening in the midst of territorial
disputes.
Will that be the next place we see a war?

It is amusing that they are making it sound l;ike Mao's troops pretty
much beat Japan by themselves and the reality is that the nationalist
army was the only significant force. I guess they waited 70 years and
hope nobody remembers.

Do you think our president would do anything about Chinese aggression? I don't.

I am not sure I want them to if it is just about some unoccupied
islands that they have been arguing about for 200 years.


Is that it? Or is that it 'for now'? At what point does the island taking stop?


It would certainly be a place where the ownership was less ambiguous.



China has pledged to solve its territorial disputes peacefully. Further,
despite its massive military parade, China has announced it plans to cut
its military forces by 300,000, and concentrate more on technological
advances. Since the end of the U.S. War Against Vietnam, China has
invaded far fewer countries and destroyed their governments than we
have. :)

I don't read many of Herring's posts anymore, but I see from your
reposting of one of his, he thinks the POTUS wouldn't "do anything"
about Chinese aggression. I wonder what the aggression is to which he
refers, other than silly posturing, and what would he expect our POTUS
to "do" about China? I'd favor parachuting in Dick Cheney, of course.

John H.[_5_] September 3rd 15 05:49 PM

China and Japan
 
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:38:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/3/15 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:10:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:51:14 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 07:18:54 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 02:24:34 -0400,
wrote:

China had the biggest military parade in their history this week and
it was clearly aimed at Japan. (Their first major celebration of the
1945 defeat of Japan). This is happening in the midst of territorial
disputes.
Will that be the next place we see a war?

It is amusing that they are making it sound l;ike Mao's troops pretty
much beat Japan by themselves and the reality is that the nationalist
army was the only significant force. I guess they waited 70 years and
hope nobody remembers.

Do you think our president would do anything about Chinese aggression? I don't.

I am not sure I want them to if it is just about some unoccupied
islands that they have been arguing about for 200 years.

Is that it? Or is that it 'for now'? At what point does the island taking stop?


It would certainly be a place where the ownership was less ambiguous.



China has pledged to solve its territorial disputes peacefully. Further,
despite its massive military parade, China has announced it plans to cut
its military forces by 300,000, and concentrate more on technological
advances. Since the end of the U.S. War Against Vietnam, China has
invaded far fewer countries and destroyed their governments than we
have. :)

I suppose you consider the shifting of resources from land to sea and air a simple
investment in 'technology'.


I don't read many of Herring's posts anymore,


More lies from Krause?


but I see from your
reposting of one of his, he thinks the POTUS wouldn't "do anything"
about Chinese aggression. I wonder what the aggression is to which he
refers, other than silly posturing, and what would he expect our POTUS
to "do" about China? I'd favor parachuting in Dick Cheney, of course.

--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] September 3rd 15 08:22 PM

China and Japan
 
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:38:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

China has pledged to solve its territorial disputes peacefully. Further,
despite its massive military parade, China has announced it plans to cut
its military forces by 300,000, and concentrate more on technological
advances.


China has used the army as a public works program. There were a lot of
industries that were being handled by the PLA. The one that affected
us the most was their civilians arms industry that makes all of the
Polytech guns and started that bimetal ammo glut that the Russians
have copied.
I think they were also at the center of the whole steel industry in
China for a long time.
A lot of this reduction in force only reflects spinning off these
industries.
There is also the military reality that we are not likely to have land
wars where large masses of foot soldiers will make the day.
The minigun went a long way to taking down a mass charge, particularly
if it is in the air.


Califbill September 3rd 15 09:22 PM

China and Japan
 
wrote:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:38:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

China has pledged to solve its territorial disputes peacefully. Further,
despite its massive military parade, China has announced it plans to cut
its military forces by 300,000, and concentrate more on technological
advances.


China has used the army as a public works program. There were a lot of
industries that were being handled by the PLA. The one that affected
us the most was their civilians arms industry that makes all of the
Polytech guns and started that bimetal ammo glut that the Russians
have copied.
I think they were also at the center of the whole steel industry in
China for a long time.
A lot of this reduction in force only reflects spinning off these
industries.
There is also the military reality that we are not likely to have land
wars where large masses of foot soldiers will make the day.
The minigun went a long way to taking down a mass charge, particularly
if it is in the air.


Cosco, China Overseas Shipping Company, who runs Long Beach Harbor
terminal, is a division of the PLA. The military, pretty much runs
everything.

[email protected] September 3rd 15 09:46 PM

China and Japan
 
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:22:25 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:38:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

China has pledged to solve its territorial disputes peacefully. Further,
despite its massive military parade, China has announced it plans to cut
its military forces by 300,000, and concentrate more on technological
advances.


China has used the army as a public works program. There were a lot of
industries that were being handled by the PLA. The one that affected
us the most was their civilians arms industry that makes all of the
Polytech guns and started that bimetal ammo glut that the Russians
have copied.
I think they were also at the center of the whole steel industry in
China for a long time.
A lot of this reduction in force only reflects spinning off these
industries.
There is also the military reality that we are not likely to have land
wars where large masses of foot soldiers will make the day.
The minigun went a long way to taking down a mass charge, particularly
if it is in the air.


Cosco, China Overseas Shipping Company, who runs Long Beach Harbor
terminal, is a division of the PLA. The military, pretty much runs
everything.


I think they may be spinning some of that off and that was my point.


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