On 9/6/2015 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 12:53:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Why is that? I have a storage locker full of regular bulbs and many
CFL's that I am not going to use. I go get an appropriate LED instead.
In some places I like using the dimmable "Daylight" color temperature.
Great in the garages, etc. They are harder to find though. Most are the
cooler "soft white".

The problem with dimming LEDs and even CFL is they do not change color
and the color shift is the biggest part of the ambience of dimming
them.
My wife is having that problem at work too. They have about 50 PAR38s
in the dining room ant at dinner time they want bright white. After
dinner they want that orange glow of a dimmed incandescent for
dancing..


We don't do much dancing in the house, garage or shed. :-)

On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 15:59:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/6/2015 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 12:53:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Why is that? I have a storage locker full of regular bulbs and many
CFL's that I am not going to use. I go get an appropriate LED instead.
In some places I like using the dimmable "Daylight" color temperature.
Great in the garages, etc. They are harder to find though. Most are the
cooler "soft white".

The problem with dimming LEDs and even CFL is they do not change color
and the color shift is the biggest part of the ambience of dimming
them.
My wife is having that problem at work too. They have about 50 PAR38s
in the dining room ant at dinner time they want bright white. After
dinner they want that orange glow of a dimmed incandescent for
dancing..


We don't do much dancing in the house, garage or shed. :-)


I have CFLs or T-8 Fluorescent in the garage and the sheds but the
lights around the pool are incandescent (15w sign bulbs) and we dim
them most of the time. We dance there ;-)
Most of the lights in and around the house are on motion detectors so
lighting is pretty much lost in the noise on our electric bill.

On 9/6/2015 5:43 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 15:59:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/6/2015 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 12:53:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Why is that? I have a storage locker full of regular bulbs and many
CFL's that I am not going to use. I go get an appropriate LED instead.
In some places I like using the dimmable "Daylight" color temperature.
Great in the garages, etc. They are harder to find though. Most are the
cooler "soft white".

The problem with dimming LEDs and even CFL is they do not change color
and the color shift is the biggest part of the ambience of dimming
them.
My wife is having that problem at work too. They have about 50 PAR38s
in the dining room ant at dinner time they want bright white. After
dinner they want that orange glow of a dimmed incandescent for
dancing..


We don't do much dancing in the house, garage or shed. :-)


I have CFLs or T-8 Fluorescent in the garage and the sheds but the
lights around the pool are incandescent (15w sign bulbs) and we dim
them most of the time. We dance there ;-)
Most of the lights in and around the house are on motion detectors so
lighting is pretty much lost in the noise on our electric bill.


I put LED flood lights in the backyard area. We have a lot of
landscaping stuff (plants and bushes) out there with a bricked circle
and stone "sitting wall". Used to have a concrete table on it but I
moved that out (wasn't easy ... damn thing weighed about 400lbs) and
put a fire pit in it's place. The LED floods light up the circular area
and the two granite stairs that lead up to it. Looks nice at night.

The floods are 120vac powered, have a DC power supply internal to them
that powers six LEDs (in series). A timer in the cabana controls them.
Also use one of the LED floods to illuminate the flag on our flagpole
at night.

They work great and I am surprised at how bright they are. I have
another but one of the LED's blew out, so none would work. I saved it
for the five remaining LED's in it that I can use to replace any that
burn out in the working floods. Here's a pic taken at night:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/backyard.jpg

On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:21:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/6/2015 5:43 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 15:59:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/6/2015 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 12:53:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Why is that? I have a storage locker full of regular bulbs and many
CFL's that I am not going to use. I go get an appropriate LED instead.
In some places I like using the dimmable "Daylight" color temperature.
Great in the garages, etc. They are harder to find though. Most are the
cooler "soft white".

The problem with dimming LEDs and even CFL is they do not change color
and the color shift is the biggest part of the ambience of dimming
them.
My wife is having that problem at work too. They have about 50 PAR38s
in the dining room ant at dinner time they want bright white. After
dinner they want that orange glow of a dimmed incandescent for
dancing..


We don't do much dancing in the house, garage or shed. :-)


I have CFLs or T-8 Fluorescent in the garage and the sheds but the
lights around the pool are incandescent (15w sign bulbs) and we dim
them most of the time. We dance there ;-)
Most of the lights in and around the house are on motion detectors so
lighting is pretty much lost in the noise on our electric bill.


I put LED flood lights in the backyard area. We have a lot of
landscaping stuff (plants and bushes) out there with a bricked circle
and stone "sitting wall". Used to have a concrete table on it but I
moved that out (wasn't easy ... damn thing weighed about 400lbs) and
put a fire pit in it's place. The LED floods light up the circular area
and the two granite stairs that lead up to it. Looks nice at night.

The floods are 120vac powered, have a DC power supply internal to them
that powers six LEDs (in series). A timer in the cabana controls them.
Also use one of the LED floods to illuminate the flag on our flagpole
at night.

They work great and I am surprised at how bright they are. I have
another but one of the LED's blew out, so none would work. I saved it
for the five remaining LED's in it that I can use to replace any that
burn out in the working floods. Here's a pic taken at night:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/backyard.jpg

===

Nice, too bad about the winters. :-)

On 9/6/2015 6:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:21:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/6/2015 5:43 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 15:59:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/6/2015 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 12:53:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Why is that? I have a storage locker full of regular bulbs and many
CFL's that I am not going to use. I go get an appropriate LED instead.
In some places I like using the dimmable "Daylight" color temperature.
Great in the garages, etc. They are harder to find though. Most are the
cooler "soft white".

The problem with dimming LEDs and even CFL is they do not change color
and the color shift is the biggest part of the ambience of dimming
them.
My wife is having that problem at work too. They have about 50 PAR38s
in the dining room ant at dinner time they want bright white. After
dinner they want that orange glow of a dimmed incandescent for
dancing..


We don't do much dancing in the house, garage or shed. :-)


I have CFLs or T-8 Fluorescent in the garage and the sheds but the
lights around the pool are incandescent (15w sign bulbs) and we dim
them most of the time. We dance there ;-)
Most of the lights in and around the house are on motion detectors so
lighting is pretty much lost in the noise on our electric bill.


I put LED flood lights in the backyard area. We have a lot of
landscaping stuff (plants and bushes) out there with a bricked circle
and stone "sitting wall". Used to have a concrete table on it but I
moved that out (wasn't easy ... damn thing weighed about 400lbs) and
put a fire pit in it's place. The LED floods light up the circular area
and the two granite stairs that lead up to it. Looks nice at night.

The floods are 120vac powered, have a DC power supply internal to them
that powers six LEDs (in series). A timer in the cabana controls them.
Also use one of the LED floods to illuminate the flag on our flagpole
at night.

They work great and I am surprised at how bright they are. I have
another but one of the LED's blew out, so none would work. I saved it
for the five remaining LED's in it that I can use to replace any that
burn out in the working floods. Here's a pic taken at night:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/backyard.jpg

===

Nice, too bad about the winters. :-)



Yeah. Last winter was a bitch. It was fun watching those LED lights
though. I forgot they were out there and under over 4 feet of snow
you couldn't see them at night. Then slowly, as the snow started
melting in April you could see weird bright areas in the snow at night.
Only then did I remember the floodlights. They all survived.

This has proven to be a tough house to sell. As an equestrian property
it is more geared towards the hobbyist with pasture/turnout areas sized
for 2, maybe 3 horses. Many of the potential buyers are looking for a
place for 10 or more horses. Conversely, those who are looking for a
place for a couple of horses become a bit overwhelmed (especially the
women) with the house. At just under 8,000 square feet it scares them.
Hard to find the right buyer and fit. We are currently awaiting word
from one potential buyer who wants it badly but it was a bit out of his
price range. We lowered the price significantly in hopes of not
spending another winter here but don't want to go any lower. He is
pulling out all the stops trying to get financing. Crossing our fingers
that he succeeds.

On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 19:20:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

This has proven to be a tough house to sell.

===

Tell you what, I'll lend you my house for two months in the winter if
you'll lend me yours for two months in the summer. Ours is quite a
bit smaller than yours but it's a *lot* larger than a boat or RV. I
might even throw in use of the Searay if you cover maintenance and
insurance. I don't think we'd like to care for horses however
although I wouldn't mind riding one if they need exercise.

On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:21:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/6/2015 5:43 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 15:59:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/6/2015 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 12:53:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Why is that? I have a storage locker full of regular bulbs and many
CFL's that I am not going to use. I go get an appropriate LED instead.
In some places I like using the dimmable "Daylight" color temperature.
Great in the garages, etc. They are harder to find though. Most are the
cooler "soft white".

The problem with dimming LEDs and even CFL is they do not change color
and the color shift is the biggest part of the ambience of dimming
them.
My wife is having that problem at work too. They have about 50 PAR38s
in the dining room ant at dinner time they want bright white. After
dinner they want that orange glow of a dimmed incandescent for
dancing..


We don't do much dancing in the house, garage or shed. :-)


I have CFLs or T-8 Fluorescent in the garage and the sheds but the
lights around the pool are incandescent (15w sign bulbs) and we dim
them most of the time. We dance there ;-)
Most of the lights in and around the house are on motion detectors so
lighting is pretty much lost in the noise on our electric bill.


I put LED flood lights in the backyard area. We have a lot of
landscaping stuff (plants and bushes) out there with a bricked circle
and stone "sitting wall". Used to have a concrete table on it but I
moved that out (wasn't easy ... damn thing weighed about 400lbs) and
put a fire pit in it's place. The LED floods light up the circular area
and the two granite stairs that lead up to it. Looks nice at night.

The floods are 120vac powered, have a DC power supply internal to them
that powers six LEDs (in series). A timer in the cabana controls them.
Also use one of the LED floods to illuminate the flag on our flagpole
at night.

They work great and I am surprised at how bright they are. I have
another but one of the LED's blew out, so none would work. I saved it
for the five remaining LED's in it that I can use to replace any that
burn out in the working floods. Here's a pic taken at night:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/backyard.jpg

We have pretty much banned flood lights here. I have a 2 lamp par38
fixture over the pool that we never turn on and there is still one
out back but I have the motion detector cranked down so far that it
only comes on if you jump up and down in front of it. The lights that
do come on when you walk around are very low level lighting. It is
enough to see your way around at night but you don't need your
sunglasses.