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John H.[_5_] August 8th 15 05:01 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

[email protected] August 8th 15 05:13 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.


When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



John H.[_5_] August 8th 15 05:57 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:13:32 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.


When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.


Absolutely - in a one-on-one interview. None of the other contenders were asked
questions about their finances. I wanted to know how Rubio paid off $100,000 in
student loans in four years.

However, Trumps latest 'blood' comments about Kelly have cost him any respect I still
had for the guy. Now he's right down there with Krause in the respect department.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Mr. Luddite August 8th 15 06:40 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.


When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them.
That's common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did
it with General Motors.



Keyser Söze August 8th 15 06:49 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.


When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them. That's
common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did it with General Motors.



any new polls showing impact of GOP presentations on standing of wannabes?
Will the Trumpster rise or fall in the company of colorless or crazies?

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

John H.[_5_] August 8th 15 07:04 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:40:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.


When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them.
That's common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did
it with General Motors.


And none of the others were asked *any* questions about their financial background.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] August 8th 15 07:04 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On 8 Aug 2015 17:49:10 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.

When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them. That's
common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did it with General Motors.



any new polls showing impact of GOP presentations on standing of wannabes?
Will the Trumpster rise or fall in the company of colorless or crazies?


Will the answer improve your honesty?

What organization in Vietnam did your work for?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Mr. Luddite August 8th 15 07:16 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On 8/8/2015 2:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:40:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.

When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them.
That's common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did
it with General Motors.


And none of the others were asked *any* questions about their financial background.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


A financial/business background is all that Trump has, so asking
questions about it seems pertinent. As POTUS he would have financial and
executive responsibilities.

Others (the professional politicians) were asked about past positions on
political issues or actions while they held office. Well, except Doc
Carson. I guess Kelly and crew couldn't come up with any questions
about brain surgery.

Mr. Luddite August 8th 15 07:21 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On 8/8/2015 1:49 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.

When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them. That's
common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did it with General Motors.



any new polls showing impact of GOP presentations on standing of wannabes?
Will the Trumpster rise or fall in the company of colorless or crazies?



I haven't paid much attention to anything the media has reported since
the debate. I have enough on my hands discussing it with Mrs.E.

John H.[_5_] August 8th 15 08:13 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 14:16:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/8/2015 2:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:40:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.

When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them.
That's common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did
it with General Motors.


And none of the others were asked *any* questions about their financial background.
-

Ban idiots, not guns!


A financial/business background is all that Trump has, so asking
questions about it seems pertinent. As POTUS he would have financial and
executive responsibilities.

Others (the professional politicians) were asked about past positions on
political issues or actions while they held office. Well, except Doc
Carson. I guess Kelly and crew couldn't come up with any questions
about brain surgery.


Perhaps questions about his plans for the economy? There are all kinds of pertinent
questions one with his background could have been asked. The name of the game was
'Get Trump'. I think it reflected very poorly on FOX.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Mr. Luddite August 8th 15 08:27 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On 8/8/2015 3:13 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 14:16:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/8/2015 2:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:40:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.

When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them.
That's common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did
it with General Motors.


And none of the others were asked *any* questions about their financial background.
-

Ban idiots, not guns!


A financial/business background is all that Trump has, so asking
questions about it seems pertinent. As POTUS he would have financial and
executive responsibilities.

Others (the professional politicians) were asked about past positions on
political issues or actions while they held office. Well, except Doc
Carson. I guess Kelly and crew couldn't come up with any questions
about brain surgery.


Perhaps questions about his plans for the economy? There are all kinds of pertinent
questions one with his background could have been asked. The name of the game was
'Get Trump'. I think it reflected very poorly on FOX.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!



I agree that it appears Fox had it in for Trump as evidenced by the
first question and show of hands.

I think they picked Kelly to deliver the most potentially embarrassing
questions, mainly because they were of a sexist nature and she's a
woman. I had never seen her before this debate. Do all the Fox women
look like her? Might have to tune in more often.

BTW ... the reference she made to a contestant on the "Apprentice" being
forced to her knees was apparently quite a stretch of a tale.
The episode in question was found and the contestant was interviewed.
She didn't have a specific memory of what happened but said in no way
was she insulted. She had very positive things to say about Trump and
her experience of being on his show.



Wayne.B August 8th 15 09:57 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:13:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Perhaps questions about his plans for the economy? There are all kinds of pertinent
questions one with his background could have been asked. The name of the game was
'Get Trump'. I think it reflected very poorly on FOX.


===

I'll concede you this, he's a darned easy target. Would you really be
comfortable with a loose cannon like that rolling around on deck? In
all honesty Fox has never exactly been known for their unbiased
journalism. I do think they went for Trump's throat intentionally
because his temper and boorish manner are his biggest weakness. It's
important for his supporters to see those true colors before going to
the alter with him. Hitler used many of the same blustering tactics
to gain power in Germany. We all know how that turned out.

John H.[_5_] August 8th 15 10:25 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 16:57:42 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:13:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Perhaps questions about his plans for the economy? There are all kinds of pertinent
questions one with his background could have been asked. The name of the game was
'Get Trump'. I think it reflected very poorly on FOX.


===

I'll concede you this, he's a darned easy target. Would you really be
comfortable with a loose cannon like that rolling around on deck? In
all honesty Fox has never exactly been known for their unbiased
journalism. I do think they went for Trump's throat intentionally
because his temper and boorish manner are his biggest weakness. It's
important for his supporters to see those true colors before going to
the alter with him. Hitler used many of the same blustering tactics
to gain power in Germany. We all know how that turned out.


Whether or not he should be president wasn't the point. The point was the way he was
treated by FOX. I agree - they went for Trump's throat. I don't think that was
appropriate for a 'debate'.

If they wanted to show his 'true colors', I'm sure he'd be glad to be interviewed,
one on one, by the FOX network. Then he wouldn't have to share the spotlight with
anyone. He'd love it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Keyser Söze August 8th 15 11:00 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 16:57:42 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:13:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Perhaps questions about his plans for the economy? There are all kinds of pertinent
questions one with his background could have been asked. The name of the game was
'Get Trump'. I think it reflected very poorly on FOX.


===

I'll concede you this, he's a darned easy target. Would you really be
comfortable with a loose cannon like that rolling around on deck? In
all honesty Fox has never exactly been known for their unbiased
journalism. I do think they went for Trump's throat intentionally
because his temper and boorish manner are his biggest weakness. It's
important for his supporters to see those true colors before going to
the alter with him. Hitler used many of the same blustering tactics
to gain power in Germany. We all know how that turned out.


Whether or not he should be president wasn't the point. The point was the way he was
treated by FOX. I agree - they went for Trump's throat. I don't think that was
appropriate for a 'debate'.




Poor Donald. Proceed.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

John H.[_5_] August 8th 15 11:27 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On 8 Aug 2015 22:00:20 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 16:57:42 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:13:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Perhaps questions about his plans for the economy? There are all kinds of pertinent
questions one with his background could have been asked. The name of the game was
'Get Trump'. I think it reflected very poorly on FOX.

===

I'll concede you this, he's a darned easy target. Would you really be
comfortable with a loose cannon like that rolling around on deck? In
all honesty Fox has never exactly been known for their unbiased
journalism. I do think they went for Trump's throat intentionally
because his temper and boorish manner are his biggest weakness. It's
important for his supporters to see those true colors before going to
the alter with him. Hitler used many of the same blustering tactics
to gain power in Germany. We all know how that turned out.


Whether or not he should be president wasn't the point. The point was the way he was
treated by FOX. I agree - they went for Trump's throat. I don't think that was
appropriate for a 'debate'.




Poor Donald. Proceed.


It would not have even been fair to you, Krause, and we all know how you lie.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Keyser Söze August 8th 15 11:48 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
John H. wrote:
On 8 Aug 2015 22:00:20 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 16:57:42 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:13:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Perhaps questions about his plans for the economy? There are all kinds of pertinent
questions one with his background could have been asked. The name of the game was
'Get Trump'. I think it reflected very poorly on FOX.

===

I'll concede you this, he's a darned easy target. Would you really be
comfortable with a loose cannon like that rolling around on deck? In
all honesty Fox has never exactly been known for their unbiased
journalism. I do think they went for Trump's throat intentionally
because his temper and boorish manner are his biggest weakness. It's
important for his supporters to see those true colors before going to
the alter with him. Hitler used many of the same blustering tactics
to gain power in Germany. We all know how that turned out.

Whether or not he should be president wasn't the point. The point was the way he was
treated by FOX. I agree - they went for Trump's throat. I don't think that was
appropriate for a 'debate'.




Poor Donald. Proceed.


It would not have even been fair to you, Krause, and we all know how you lie.
--


It was perfectly fair to Trump, and it is likely his many supporters in the
GOP relish his actions and his comments about women, Mexicans, other
candidates, etc. Trump speaks for many in the GOP, including white racist
trash like you.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

jps August 9th 15 12:25 AM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:40:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.


When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them.
That's common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did
it with General Motors.


The Atlantic City/Gaming bankruptcies were big and ugly. He tried to
deflect by saying he screwed big players and bad guys but a ****load
of people lost their jobs and many more go hurt by his dubious
business practices. He's as loose and fast in business as he is with
his mouth.

Mr. Luddite August 9th 15 01:23 AM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On 8/8/2015 7:25 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:40:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.

When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them.
That's common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did
it with General Motors.


The Atlantic City/Gaming bankruptcies were big and ugly. He tried to
deflect by saying he screwed big players and bad guys but a ****load
of people lost their jobs and many more go hurt by his dubious
business practices. He's as loose and fast in business as he is with
his mouth.



I hear you but again, that's the way things are in big business and it's
two-sided. It's why I got out when the getting was good ... before I
had to deal with being part of a public company and all that goes with it.

I witnessed how small banks deal with business investments, lines of
credit or financing in another company that I worked for before I
started mine. Banks aren't your "partner" like they try to promote
themselves as. One quarterly downturn in business and missing one of
the covenants associated with your agreement and you can find yourself
out of business fast with a bunch of unemployed employees. When I
started my company I swore I'd never do any form of bank financing ...
and I didn't. Never had a bank line of any kind. All of the growth
financing was organic, based on profits made on an increasing volume of
contracts.

Trump plays with the *really* big boys for financing and I am sure it's
a big reason of why he is what he is and how he acts. I can't even
imagine it.

Have to admit though, Trump's places in Atlantic City were impressive
when they were in their prime. One of my stops on the way to Florida
with the boat was the Trump Marina/Casino. I don't particularly care for
those places though. Gives me a creepy feeling watching all the retired
people blowing their money trying to hit it big.

jps August 9th 15 01:43 AM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 20:23:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/8/2015 7:25 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:40:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/8/2015 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:01:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A debate amongst Republican presidential wannabees should focus on public issues, not
personal background. The questions asked of Trump should have been part of a
one-on-one interview. None of the other candidates were asked only personal
questions.

Had to get my comment in before reading the stuff which has been accumulating here
over the past three days.

When a guy is running on his business record, his bankruptcies should
be fair game.



I am not as concerned about businesses owned by Trump that declared
bankruptcy. He claims to own about 500 companies, only four of those
filed for bankruptcy. I believe at least two of them were "arranged"
bankruptcies, meaning he bought distressed companies, put them in
bankruptcy to mitigate liabilities and then re-incorporated them.
That's common in the business world. Hell, even the US government did
it with General Motors.


The Atlantic City/Gaming bankruptcies were big and ugly. He tried to
deflect by saying he screwed big players and bad guys but a ****load
of people lost their jobs and many more go hurt by his dubious
business practices. He's as loose and fast in business as he is with
his mouth.



I hear you but again, that's the way things are in big business and it's
two-sided. It's why I got out when the getting was good ... before I
had to deal with being part of a public company and all that goes with it.

I witnessed how small banks deal with business investments, lines of
credit or financing in another company that I worked for before I
started mine. Banks aren't your "partner" like they try to promote
themselves as. One quarterly downturn in business and missing one of
the covenants associated with your agreement and you can find yourself
out of business fast with a bunch of unemployed employees. When I
started my company I swore I'd never do any form of bank financing ...
and I didn't. Never had a bank line of any kind. All of the growth
financing was organic, based on profits made on an increasing volume of
contracts.

Trump plays with the *really* big boys for financing and I am sure it's
a big reason of why he is what he is and how he acts. I can't even
imagine it.

Have to admit though, Trump's places in Atlantic City were impressive
when they were in their prime. One of my stops on the way to Florida
with the boat was the Trump Marina/Casino. I don't particularly care for
those places though. Gives me a creepy feeling watching all the retired
people blowing their money trying to hit it big.


An ugly side to America, for certain. Those entities did a lot to help
my business grow but when the going got tough, they didn't mind
reneging on their promises.

Bean counters.

[email protected] August 9th 15 06:56 AM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 20:23:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Have to admit though, Trump's places in Atlantic City were impressive
when they were in their prime. One of my stops on the way to Florida
with the boat was the Trump Marina/Casino. I don't particularly care for
those places though. Gives me a creepy feeling watching all the retired
people blowing their money trying to hit it big.


I was in AC real early in the gambling game. The guys spent a night at
Ballys and moved enough chips to get a couple of rooms comped.
Although I broke about even Bally lost money on us.

We also decided to see what was outside the casino.
I knew then that this was a doomed "rejuvenation" of that slum city.
As soon as you walked out of the casino, the place was a **** hole and
there were not many people even adventuring outside.

[email protected] August 9th 15 07:36 AM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:27:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Do all the Fox women
look like her? Might have to tune in more often.


Pretty much but some are brunettes. Ailes likes pretty girls.
They do tend to say dumb **** tho.

Trump did not help himself on the right by picking a fight with Kelly.
You don't want to be a republican candidate that Fox goes after.
I still think he is going to tell us he doesn't have time to be
president soon because his business interests are to demanding on him.



Mr. Luddite August 9th 15 08:57 AM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On 8/9/2015 2:36 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:27:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Do all the Fox women
look like her? Might have to tune in more often.


Pretty much but some are brunettes. Ailes likes pretty girls.
They do tend to say dumb **** tho.

Trump did not help himself on the right by picking a fight with Kelly.
You don't want to be a republican candidate that Fox goes after.
I still think he is going to tell us he doesn't have time to be
president soon because his business interests are to demanding on him.




That sounds about right. Either that or all the new lawsuits he has
initiated against people who don't respect him is taking up too much of
his time.

Read last night that his top political adviser and long time friend
Roger Stone has left the campaign. Trump says Stone was fired. Stone
says he quit, saying he could no longer deal with Trump's adversarial
attitude and style in his campaign.





Califbill August 9th 15 04:12 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 20:23:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Have to admit though, Trump's places in Atlantic City were impressive
when they were in their prime. One of my stops on the way to Florida
with the boat was the Trump Marina/Casino. I don't particularly care for
those places though. Gives me a creepy feeling watching all the retired
people blowing their money trying to hit it big.


I was in AC real early in the gambling game. The guys spent a night at
Ballys and moved enough chips to get a couple of rooms comped.
Although I broke about even Bally lost money on us.

We also decided to see what was outside the casino.
I knew then that this was a doomed "rejuvenation" of that slum city.
As soon as you walked out of the casino, the place was a **** hole and
there were not many people even adventuring outside.


I was in AC in the early 80's. You were definitely correct about built in
failure. Growing up and visiting Reno often as a kid. Dad liked to
gamble, mom watched shows, the overall town was clean, not a nasty,
dangerous slum looking area next to the casinos.

[email protected] August 9th 15 05:05 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 10:12:44 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 20:23:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Have to admit though, Trump's places in Atlantic City were impressive
when they were in their prime. One of my stops on the way to Florida
with the boat was the Trump Marina/Casino. I don't particularly care for
those places though. Gives me a creepy feeling watching all the retired
people blowing their money trying to hit it big.


I was in AC real early in the gambling game. The guys spent a night at
Ballys and moved enough chips to get a couple of rooms comped.
Although I broke about even Bally lost money on us.

We also decided to see what was outside the casino.
I knew then that this was a doomed "rejuvenation" of that slum city.
As soon as you walked out of the casino, the place was a **** hole and
there were not many people even adventuring outside.


I was in AC in the early 80's. You were definitely correct about built in
failure. Growing up and visiting Reno often as a kid. Dad liked to
gamble, mom watched shows, the overall town was clean, not a nasty,
dangerous slum looking area next to the casinos.


I think the main reason why New Jersey could not duplicate the success
of Nevada was because gambling was suddenly everywhere and they
started with a large built in population of welfare addicted poor
people.
In the late 40s and early 50s, Nevada was sparsely populated and the
people who came , came there for the casino business. If they couldn't
make it, they moved back where they came from.
The slums in AC were already there and they had more low skill people
than they had jobs for. The senior management came in with the casino
companies and sent most of the money back out of state.

I see it as being similar to the "spring training baseball" scam the
northern clubs have foisted off on southern towns. The promised jobs
bonanza and economic stimulus never seems to bear fruit. A few rich
people get a little richer but little of it trickles down to the
community.

Trump was just a metaphor for the rest of the carpet baggers who
swooped into AC, made a lot of money and left scorched earth behind
when they bailed out.
If the world was fair, the lenders could have clawed back some of
those profits in the bankruptcy but the accountants and lawyers
managed to isolate the money he took away from the assets he left
behind.


John H.[_5_] August 11th 15 06:10 PM

Trump *was* treated unfairly
 
On 8 Aug 2015 22:48:29 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 8 Aug 2015 22:00:20 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 16:57:42 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:13:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Perhaps questions about his plans for the economy? There are all kinds of pertinent
questions one with his background could have been asked. The name of the game was
'Get Trump'. I think it reflected very poorly on FOX.

===

I'll concede you this, he's a darned easy target. Would you really be
comfortable with a loose cannon like that rolling around on deck? In
all honesty Fox has never exactly been known for their unbiased
journalism. I do think they went for Trump's throat intentionally
because his temper and boorish manner are his biggest weakness. It's
important for his supporters to see those true colors before going to
the alter with him. Hitler used many of the same blustering tactics
to gain power in Germany. We all know how that turned out.

Whether or not he should be president wasn't the point. The point was the way he was
treated by FOX. I agree - they went for Trump's throat. I don't think that was
appropriate for a 'debate'.




Poor Donald. Proceed.


It would not have even been fair to you, Krause, and we all know how you lie.
--


It was perfectly fair to Trump, and it is likely his many supporters in the
GOP relish his actions and his comments about women, Mexicans, other
candidates, etc. Trump speaks for many in the GOP, including white racist
trash like you.


As I was as involved in killing as you were, you should not leave out the word
'murderous' in your name-calling.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


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