Greg, that's also true with Diabetic readers, they'll practically give you the tester then hold you up on the strips!

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:13:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Greg, that's also true with Diabetic readers, they'll practically give you the tester then hold you up on the strips!

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Gilette Razors practically wrote the book on that business model.

I can belive it , Wayne.

Greg, I've seen lots of good comments on that razor "dollar club" then you have Netflix a
Taking on the DVD industry too...

I suppose it's all in the evolution of business and marketing...

On 6/25/15 5:27 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:12:21 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Greg, I've seen lots of good comments on that razor "dollar club" then you have Netflix a
Taking on the DVD industry too...

CDs and DVDs are going the way of the 8 track.
Digital content is going to be delivered online and they really want
you to store it in the cloud. In this regard, I agree with Hillary. I
want my data spinning on my disk drives (or whatever media we will be
using next in the 21st century)
I have not jumped on the SSD bandwagon with Harry yet. I just don't
like the fact that they tell you these things have a finite life
(10,000 writes). On a system drive, that might happen pretty fast.
(something like the page files)
Disk drives are so cheap these days that there is no reason not to
have plenty of backups.
I have made a backup machine, another PC that is a mirror of the one I
use regularly. I hook it up and synchronize all of the "data" drives
once a week or so after doing virus scans from a couple of programs.If
I have a catastrophic failure, I will be back going in minutes.




Neither of my computers with SSDs, nor our iPhones with SSDs have
hiccuped...yet. But we also back up to an assortment of external drives,
a server and two separate "clouds."

In article ,
says...

I have not jumped on the SSD bandwagon with Harry yet. I just don't
like the fact that they tell you these things have a finite life
(10,000 writes). On a system drive, that might happen pretty fast.
(something like the page files)

I've been running a SSD as my system disk for about a year and a half
without issue. Also have a 512 GB SSD for my games. No issues.
They're much faster, cooler, and use very little power.
Spinners will fail too.
For the average user who's happy to just chug along, they're pointless,
but for a so-called "power user" they're the cat's meow.
It gets down to expense.
So if you don't want to pay up, it's fine to do without.
I expect prices to keep coming down until they match spinners.

On 6/26/15 10:02 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

I have not jumped on the SSD bandwagon with Harry yet. I just don't
like the fact that they tell you these things have a finite life
(10,000 writes). On a system drive, that might happen pretty fast.
(something like the page files)

I've been running a SSD as my system disk for about a year and a half
without issue. Also have a 512 GB SSD for my games. No issues.
They're much faster, cooler, and use very little power.
Spinners will fail too.
For the average user who's happy to just chug along, they're pointless,
but for a so-called "power user" they're the cat's meow.
It gets down to expense.
So if you don't want to pay up, it's fine to do without.
I expect prices to keep coming down until they match spinners.



When I set up my Synology server, I bought four "premium" two terabyte
hard drives to put in it. I don't know why they were considered premium,
but they were "highly recommended" for servers. They weren't that much
more expensive than "ordinary" drives. So far, they've been running
without a hitch, knock on plastic.

I sell my desktop iMac every three years, when the AppleCare expires. My
current iMac has an SSD drive...so far, no problems. My laptop also has
an SSD that has operated so far without a hitch. Spinning drives are
pretty much obsolete for personal computers.

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:14:07 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/26/15 10:02 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

I have not jumped on the SSD bandwagon with Harry yet. I just don't
like the fact that they tell you these things have a finite life
(10,000 writes). On a system drive, that might happen pretty fast.
(something like the page files)

I've been running a SSD as my system disk for about a year and a half
without issue. Also have a 512 GB SSD for my games. No issues.
They're much faster, cooler, and use very little power.
Spinners will fail too.
For the average user who's happy to just chug along, they're pointless,
but for a so-called "power user" they're the cat's meow.
It gets down to expense.
So if you don't want to pay up, it's fine to do without.
I expect prices to keep coming down until they match spinners.



When I set up my Synology server, I bought four "premium" two terabyte
hard drives to put in it. I don't know why they were considered premium,
but they were "highly recommended" for servers. They weren't that much
more expensive than "ordinary" drives. So far, they've been running
without a hitch, knock on plastic.


Premium drives are supposed to be manufactured to higher specs and
have higher MTBF but I am not sure that is actually true.

I sell my desktop iMac every three years, when the AppleCare expires. My
current iMac has an SSD drive...so far, no problems. My laptop also has
an SSD that has operated so far without a hitch. Spinning drives are
pretty much obsolete for personal computers.

As long as they keep making spinners cheaper per GB, I doubt they will
be going away anytime soon. You do seem to give up reliability for
capacity. I have some old 40 GB Maxtor drives that have been running
24/7 for a decade. I do not expect my 1TB and larger drives to last
nearly that long. I always keep my C: on a small drive and put my
"data" on another drive that is easier to keep backed up. (a simple
"copy" vs the backup/restore process)

If you're storing massive files (music and vids, eg.) there's no point
in paying up at today's prices for a SSD unless you've got money to
spare.
But you can cheaply put your system on a 32 or 64 GB SSD.
Massive improvement in boot time in one benefit.
I won't go back to spinners for my system drive.
My experience with SSD's has been good so far.
You don't give up any reliability if MTBF figures are to be believed.
SSD's MTBF are about 150 years now. Long enough?
It's just the expense of larger drives working against SSD's.
You can get one to easily hold your system for under $40.

On 6/25/15 3:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:28:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:13:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Greg, that's also true with Diabetic readers, they'll practically give you the tester then hold you up on the strips!

===

Gilette Razors practically wrote the book on that business model.

I saw an article in the WSJ the other day saying the internet is
taking a bite out of that business.


I spent a pre-college summer working as a truck loader at the Shick
razor company in Milford, Connecticut. We used forklifts and our arms,
legs and backs to pack 40 and 35-foot trailers with goods made in the
factory (blades), made elsewhere and assembled in the factory, et
cetera. The pay was good and the factory was properly and safely
operated. Unusual benefit: a daily 15-20 minute "shave break" to test
product. I don't recall whether the women who worked in the factory got
a similar break to shave their legs. We could also buy packs of
injector blades for 5 cents a pack, a price that probably eliminated
pilfering. I think they were selling for $2 a pack at the stores. I
bought at least several dollars worth of packs a week to take back to
college, where I resold them for a $1 a pack.

The next summer, I got a job loading trucks at Hulls Export Beer in New
Haven. Much harder work, paid better, outdoor loading dock,
and...freebie beer...significant for an underaged college student.

Also had a job one summer at Bigelow Boiler in New Haven, at a factory
whose skeleton remains. Learned how to weld, and spent my days inside
used boilers, stripping out their parts and making repairs to the tubes.
I kept up with apprenticeship classes after that summer when I could and
eventually passed a journeyman welder's exam.

My last summer of college before graduation, I got a white collar job at
The Kansas City Star.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/25/15 3:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:28:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:13:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Greg, that's also true with Diabetic readers, they'll practically
give you the tester then hold you up on the strips!

===

Gilette Razors practically wrote the book on that business model.

I saw an article in the WSJ the other day saying the internet is
taking a bite out of that business.


I spent a pre-college summer working as a truck loader at the Shick
razor company in Milford, Connecticut. We used forklifts and our arms,
legs and backs to pack 40 and 35-foot trailers with goods made in the
factory (blades), made elsewhere and assembled in the factory, et
cetera. The pay was good and the factory was properly and safely
operated. Unusual benefit: a daily 15-20 minute "shave break" to test
product. I don't recall whether the women who worked in the factory
got a similar break to shave their legs. We could also buy packs of
injector blades for 5 cents a pack, a price that probably eliminated
pilfering. I think they were selling for $2 a pack at the stores. I
bought at least several dollars worth of packs a week to take back to
college, where I resold them for a $1 a pack.

The next summer, I got a job loading trucks at Hulls Export Beer in
New Haven. Much harder work, paid better, outdoor loading dock,
and...freebie beer...significant for an underaged college student.

Also had a job one summer at Bigelow Boiler in New Haven, at a factory
whose skeleton remains. Learned how to weld, and spent my days inside
used boilers, stripping out their parts and making repairs to the
tubes. I kept up with apprenticeship classes after that summer when I
could and eventually passed a journeyman welder's exam.

My last summer of college before graduation, I got a white collar job
at The Kansas City Star.



Wow. All of that over a new razor blade business model! How did that
evolve into your resume?