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Keyser Söze June 24th 15 12:05 PM

Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
 


WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal
assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online
manifestoes or social media rants.

But the breakdown of extremist ideologies behind those attacks may come
as a surprise. Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have
been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other
non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by
extremists who are not Muslim, compared with 26 by self-proclaimed
jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research
center.

The slaying of nine African-Americans in a Charleston, S.C., church last
week, with an avowed white supremacist charged with their murders, was a
particularly savage case. But it is only the latest in a string of
lethal attacks by people espousing racial hatred, hostility to
government and theories such as those of the “sovereign citizen”
movement, which denies the legitimacy of most statutory law. The
assaults have taken the lives of police officers, members of racial or
religious minorities and random civilians.

Non-Muslim extremists have carried out 19 such attacks since Sept. 11,
according to the latest count, compiled by David Sterman, a New America
program associate, and overseen by Peter Bergen, a terrorism expert. By
comparison, seven lethal attacks by Islamic militants have taken place
in the same period.

If such numbers are new to the public, they are familiar to police
officers. A survey to be published this week asked 382 police and
sheriff’s departments nationwide to rank the three biggest threats from
violent extremism in their jurisdiction. About 74 percent listed
antigovernment violence, while 39 percent listed “Al Qaeda-inspired”
violence, according to the researchers, Charles Kurzman of the
University of North Carolina and David Schanzer of Duke University.

“Law enforcement agencies around the country have told us the threat
from Muslim extremists is not as great as the threat from right-wing
extremists,” said Dr. Kurzman, whose study is to be published by the
Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security and the Police
Executive Research Forum.

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In other words, your Muslim neighbor is a good neighbor, but watch your
back if your neighbor is the typical rec.boats white rightie...


Keyser Söze June 24th 15 03:01 PM

Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
 
wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal
assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online
manifestoes or social media rants.



" In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon,"

We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11?

That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the
play"?.


Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the
Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Keyser Söze June 24th 15 03:34 PM

Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
 
wrote:
On 24 Jun 2015 14:01:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal
assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online
manifestoes or social media rants.


" In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon,"

We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11?

That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the
play"?.


Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the
Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark.


I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black
person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other
way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR)
and the US census.

Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies,
it is easy to do.


You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and
crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. 😀
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Wayne.B June 24th 15 04:11 PM

Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
 
On 24 Jun 2015 14:34:50 GMT, Keyser Sze wrote:

I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black
person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other
way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR)
and the US census.

Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies,
it is easy to do.


You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and
crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. ?


===

Harry, you're like a broken record that keeps playing the same dumb
thing over and over and over and...

Wayne.B June 24th 15 04:35 PM

Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
 
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:25:58 -0400, wrote:

On 24 Jun 2015 14:34:50 GMT, Keyser Sze wrote:

wrote:
On 24 Jun 2015 14:01:27 GMT, Keyser Sze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Sze
wrote:

WASHINGTON In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal
assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online
manifestoes or social media rants.


" In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon,"

We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11?

That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the
play"?.

Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the
Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark.

I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black
person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other
way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR)
and the US census.

Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies,
it is easy to do.


You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and
crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. ?


Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply
pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange
results.
Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to
kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say
If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even
worse.
.
Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the
noise of ~165,000 murders.


===

You're only confusing him with the facts. :-)

Wayne.B June 24th 15 05:19 PM

Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
 
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:04:55 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:35:56 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:25:58 -0400,
wrote:

On 24 Jun 2015 14:34:50 GMT, Keyser Sze wrote:

wrote:
On 24 Jun 2015 14:01:27 GMT, Keyser Sze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Sze
wrote:

WASHINGTON In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal
assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online
manifestoes or social media rants.


" In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon,"

We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11?

That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the
play"?.

Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the
Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark.

I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black
person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other
way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR)
and the US census.

Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies,
it is easy to do.

You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and
crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. ?

Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply
pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange
results.
Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to
kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say
If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even
worse.
.
Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the
noise of ~165,000 murders.


===

You're only confusing him with the facts. :-)


These people like to hype up statistical anomalies and things that are
very rare occupancies, then totally ignore the big problems


===

The figures never lie but liars sometimes figure. :-)

Keyser Söze June 24th 15 06:50 PM

Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
 
On 6/24/15 11:25 AM, wrote:
On 24 Jun 2015 14:34:50 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On 24 Jun 2015 14:01:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal
assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online
manifestoes or social media rants.


" In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon,"

We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11?

That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the
play"?.

Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the
Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark.

I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black
person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other
way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR)
and the US census.

Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies,
it is easy to do.


You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and
crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. ?


Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply
pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange
results.
Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to
kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say
If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even
worse.
.
Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the
noise of ~165,000 murders.


My reading comprehension skills are fine. We don't need a statistical
analysis to show that there are more right-wing white boys committing
acts of terror, such as last week's in Charleston, than there are
Muslims committing similar acts. The results aren't strange. The
Southern Poverty Law Center keeps track of violent right-wing groups.
There are hundreds and hundreds of them in this country, with really
itchy trigger fingers. Your boys, on your side of the political fence.

The general murder stats in this country are horrific, no question about
it, but that wasn't what I was discussion. You are more than welcome to
start a thread about that so that your boys here can chime in.

Oh, and if I need help with statistics, I'll ask my wife, who took a
number of grad level stats courses and a number of Ph.D. level stats
courses. No need to consult an amateur, eh?

Justan Olphat June 24th 15 07:10 PM

Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
 
On 6/24/2015 10:34 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On 24 Jun 2015 14:01:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal
assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online
manifestoes or social media rants.


" In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon,"

We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11?

That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the
play"?.

Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the
Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark.


I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black
person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other
way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR)
and the US census.

Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies,
it is easy to do.


You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and
crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. 😀

Your analyses of what you perceive as facts is laughable. Thanks for
entertaining us with your bat**** crazy musings.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



Justan Olphat June 24th 15 07:14 PM

Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
 
On 6/24/2015 11:35 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:25:58 -0400, wrote:

On 24 Jun 2015 14:34:50 GMT, Keyser Sze wrote:

wrote:
On 24 Jun 2015 14:01:27 GMT, Keyser Sze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Sze
wrote:

WASHINGTON In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal
assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online
manifestoes or social media rants.


" In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New
York and the Pentagon,"

We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11?

That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the
play"?.

Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the
Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark.

I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black
person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other
way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR)
and the US census.

Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies,
it is easy to do.

You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and
crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. ?


Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply
pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange
results.
Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to
kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say
If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even
worse.
.
Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the
noise of ~165,000 murders.


===

You're only confusing him with the facts. :-)

Facts are not material to his programmed way of thinking.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



Justan Olphat June 24th 15 07:35 PM

Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
 
On 6/24/2015 2:19 PM, wrote:
Oh, and if I need help with statistics, I'll ask my wife, who took a
number of grad level stats courses and a number of Ph.D. level stats
courses. No need to consult an amateur, eh?


Why rely on hearsay evidence from a doctor of nothing instead of drawing
your own conclusions based on facts you believe to be true. Nah, that
would require WORK on your part.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."




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