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Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online manifestoes or social media rants. But the breakdown of extremist ideologies behind those attacks may come as a surprise. Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center. The slaying of nine African-Americans in a Charleston, S.C., church last week, with an avowed white supremacist charged with their murders, was a particularly savage case. But it is only the latest in a string of lethal attacks by people espousing racial hatred, hostility to government and theories such as those of the “sovereign citizen” movement, which denies the legitimacy of most statutory law. The assaults have taken the lives of police officers, members of racial or religious minorities and random civilians. Non-Muslim extremists have carried out 19 such attacks since Sept. 11, according to the latest count, compiled by David Sterman, a New America program associate, and overseen by Peter Bergen, a terrorism expert. By comparison, seven lethal attacks by Islamic militants have taken place in the same period. If such numbers are new to the public, they are familiar to police officers. A survey to be published this week asked 382 police and sheriff’s departments nationwide to rank the three biggest threats from violent extremism in their jurisdiction. About 74 percent listed antigovernment violence, while 39 percent listed “Al Qaeda-inspired” violence, according to the researchers, Charles Kurzman of the University of North Carolina and David Schanzer of Duke University. “Law enforcement agencies around the country have told us the threat from Muslim extremists is not as great as the threat from right-wing extremists,” said Dr. Kurzman, whose study is to be published by the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security and the Police Executive Research Forum. http://tinyurl.com/phdbuka In other words, your Muslim neighbor is a good neighbor, but watch your back if your neighbor is the typical rec.boats white rightie... |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online manifestoes or social media rants. " In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon," We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11? That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play"?. Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
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On 24 Jun 2015 14:01:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online manifestoes or social media rants. " In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon," We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11? That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play"?. Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark. I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR) and the US census. Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies, it is easy to do. You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. 😀 -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On 24 Jun 2015 14:34:50 GMT, Keyser Sze wrote:
I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR) and the US census. Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies, it is easy to do. You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. ? === Harry, you're like a broken record that keeps playing the same dumb thing over and over and over and... |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
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Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
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Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On 6/24/2015 10:34 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote: On 24 Jun 2015 14:01:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online manifestoes or social media rants. " In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon," We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11? That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play"?. Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark. I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR) and the US census. Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies, it is easy to do. You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. 😀 Your analyses of what you perceive as facts is laughable. Thanks for entertaining us with your bat**** crazy musings. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On 6/24/2015 11:35 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:25:58 -0400, wrote: On 24 Jun 2015 14:34:50 GMT, Keyser Sze wrote: wrote: On 24 Jun 2015 14:01:27 GMT, Keyser Sze wrote: wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:05:04 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: WASHINGTON In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online manifestoes or social media rants. " In the 14 years since Al Qaeda carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon," We don't count the 3000+ that died on 9-11? That is like saying "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play"?. Troublesome to you that your fellow righties are better terrorists than the Muslim terrorists, eh. "Since 9-11" is the common benchmark. I guess you missed the note where I showed that statistically a black person is 14 times more likely to kill a white person than the other way around. Those are statistics from the Holder DoJ (2013 FBI UCR) and the US census. Statistics are a funny thing and if you want to point out anomalies, it is easy to do. You boys just can't deal with the fact that white right wing extremists and crazies are the more dangerous terrorists in the USA. ? Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange results. Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even worse. . Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the noise of ~165,000 murders. === You're only confusing him with the facts. :-) Facts are not material to his programmed way of thinking. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
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Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On 6/24/15 2:19 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:50:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/24/15 11:25 AM, wrote: Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange results. Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even worse. . Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the noise of ~165,000 murders. My reading comprehension skills are fine. We don't need a statistical analysis to show that there are more right-wing white boys committing acts of terror, such as last week's in Charleston, than there are Muslims committing similar acts. The results aren't strange. The Southern Poverty Law Center keeps track of violent right-wing groups. There are hundreds and hundreds of them in this country, with really itchy trigger fingers. Your boys, on your side of the political fence. The general murder stats in this country are horrific, no question about it, but that wasn't what I was discussion. You are more than welcome to start a thread about that so that your boys here can chime in. When you are citing murder statistics,to make your case, how are murder statistics insignificant? If you are willing to remember my first thoughts on this killing, I suggested that they should consider this terrorism. Then they might be willing to expend a fraction of the money we are spending on the Jihadists to investigate the aryans. Oh, and if I need help with statistics, I'll ask my wife, who took a number of grad level stats courses and a number of Ph.D. level stats courses. No need to consult an amateur, eh? Maybe you should get some help. I didn't "study" statistics, I was in the business of actually analysing them and learning how to query databases. Actual experience beats a sterile education environment every time. IBM trusted me enough to base million dollar decisions on the conclusions I generated. I was not citing murder statistics, just a count of incidents. Statistics as I am sure you know, involves much more than a simple count. Wow. You could query a database. BFD. The "study" of statistics includes analysis and queries. |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On 6/24/2015 2:40 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/24/15 2:19 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:50:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/24/15 11:25 AM, wrote: Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange results. Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even worse. . Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the noise of ~165,000 murders. My reading comprehension skills are fine. We don't need a statistical analysis to show that there are more right-wing white boys committing acts of terror, such as last week's in Charleston, than there are Muslims committing similar acts. The results aren't strange. The Southern Poverty Law Center keeps track of violent right-wing groups. There are hundreds and hundreds of them in this country, with really itchy trigger fingers. Your boys, on your side of the political fence. The general murder stats in this country are horrific, no question about it, but that wasn't what I was discussion. You are more than welcome to start a thread about that so that your boys here can chime in. When you are citing murder statistics,to make your case, how are murder statistics insignificant? If you are willing to remember my first thoughts on this killing, I suggested that they should consider this terrorism. Then they might be willing to expend a fraction of the money we are spending on the Jihadists to investigate the aryans. Oh, and if I need help with statistics, I'll ask my wife, who took a number of grad level stats courses and a number of Ph.D. level stats courses. No need to consult an amateur, eh? Maybe you should get some help. I didn't "study" statistics, I was in the business of actually analysing them and learning how to query databases. Actual experience beats a sterile education environment every time. IBM trusted me enough to base million dollar decisions on the conclusions I generated. I was not citing murder statistics, just a count of incidents. Statistics as I am sure you know, involves much more than a simple count. Wow. You could query a database. BFD. The "study" of statistics includes analysis and queries. And????? What else????? -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 2:59:56 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:40:07 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: On 6/24/15 2:19 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:50:29 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: On 6/24/15 11:25 AM, wrote: Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange results. Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even worse. . Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the noise of ~165,000 murders. My reading comprehension skills are fine. We don't need a statistical analysis to show that there are more right-wing white boys committing acts of terror, such as last week's in Charleston, than there are Muslims committing similar acts. The results aren't strange. The Southern Poverty Law Center keeps track of violent right-wing groups. There are hundreds and hundreds of them in this country, with really itchy trigger fingers. Your boys, on your side of the political fence.. The general murder stats in this country are horrific, no question about it, but that wasn't what I was discussion. You are more than welcome to start a thread about that so that your boys here can chime in. When you are citing murder statistics,to make your case, how are murder statistics insignificant? If you are willing to remember my first thoughts on this killing, I suggested that they should consider this terrorism. Then they might be willing to expend a fraction of the money we are spending on the Jihadists to investigate the aryans. Oh, and if I need help with statistics, I'll ask my wife, who took a number of grad level stats courses and a number of Ph.D. level stats courses. No need to consult an amateur, eh? Maybe you should get some help. I didn't "study" statistics, I was in the business of actually analysing them and learning how to query databases. Actual experience beats a sterile education environment every time. IBM trusted me enough to base million dollar decisions on the conclusions I generated. I was not citing murder statistics, just a count of incidents. Statistics as I am sure you know, involves much more than a simple count.. Wow. You could query a database. BFD. The "study" of statistics includes analysis and queries. If basing your conclusion on 48 data points in a 170,000 record field is "analysis" you don't understand statistics either. Somebody started with a conclusion, then sought out some random numbers to "prove it", AKA a "study". Sounds like the current crop of climate "studies". Except their numbers are admittedly fudged. :) |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On 6/24/15 2:59 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:40:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/24/15 2:19 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:50:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/24/15 11:25 AM, wrote: Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange results. Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even worse. . Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the noise of ~165,000 murders. My reading comprehension skills are fine. We don't need a statistical analysis to show that there are more right-wing white boys committing acts of terror, such as last week's in Charleston, than there are Muslims committing similar acts. The results aren't strange. The Southern Poverty Law Center keeps track of violent right-wing groups. There are hundreds and hundreds of them in this country, with really itchy trigger fingers. Your boys, on your side of the political fence. The general murder stats in this country are horrific, no question about it, but that wasn't what I was discussion. You are more than welcome to start a thread about that so that your boys here can chime in. When you are citing murder statistics,to make your case, how are murder statistics insignificant? If you are willing to remember my first thoughts on this killing, I suggested that they should consider this terrorism. Then they might be willing to expend a fraction of the money we are spending on the Jihadists to investigate the aryans. Oh, and if I need help with statistics, I'll ask my wife, who took a number of grad level stats courses and a number of Ph.D. level stats courses. No need to consult an amateur, eh? Maybe you should get some help. I didn't "study" statistics, I was in the business of actually analysing them and learning how to query databases. Actual experience beats a sterile education environment every time. IBM trusted me enough to base million dollar decisions on the conclusions I generated. I was not citing murder statistics, just a count of incidents. Statistics as I am sure you know, involves much more than a simple count. Wow. You could query a database. BFD. The "study" of statistics includes analysis and queries. If basing your conclusion on 48 data points in a 170,000 record field is "analysis" you don't understand statistics either. Somebody started with a conclusion, then sought out some random numbers to "prove it", AKA a "study". My "conclusion" is that there have been more of these terrorist type attack killings in this country since 9-11 that have been perpetrated by right-wing white guys than by Muslims. I know how painful it is for you righties to argue with these simple numbers, and with the far more complex numbers and actual statistics connected with things like "climate change" and such. |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 2:59:56 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:40:07 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: On 6/24/15 2:19 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:50:29 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: On 6/24/15 11:25 AM, wrote: Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange results. Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even worse. . Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the noise of ~165,000 murders. My reading comprehension skills are fine. We don't need a statistical analysis to show that there are more right-wing white boys committing acts of terror, such as last week's in Charleston, than there are Muslims committing similar acts. The results aren't strange. The Southern Poverty Law Center keeps track of violent right-wing groups. There are hundreds and hundreds of them in this country, with really itchy trigger fingers. Your boys, on your side of the political fence.. The general murder stats in this country are horrific, no question about it, but that wasn't what I was discussion. You are more than welcome to start a thread about that so that your boys here can chime in. When you are citing murder statistics,to make your case, how are murder statistics insignificant? If you are willing to remember my first thoughts on this killing, I suggested that they should consider this terrorism. Then they might be willing to expend a fraction of the money we are spending on the Jihadists to investigate the aryans. Oh, and if I need help with statistics, I'll ask my wife, who took a number of grad level stats courses and a number of Ph.D. level stats courses. No need to consult an amateur, eh? Maybe you should get some help. I didn't "study" statistics, I was in the business of actually analysing them and learning how to query databases. Actual experience beats a sterile education environment every time. IBM trusted me enough to base million dollar decisions on the conclusions I generated. I was not citing murder statistics, just a count of incidents. Statistics as I am sure you know, involves much more than a simple count.. Wow. You could query a database. BFD. The "study" of statistics includes analysis and queries. If basing your conclusion on 48 data points in a 170,000 record field is "analysis" you don't understand statistics either. Those 48 deaths pale in comparison to the thousands of deaths cause by left-wing, inner-city drug gangs. They are certainly the biggest threat to life in these United States. |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On 6/24/15 11:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:45:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/24/15 2:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:40:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/24/15 2:19 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:50:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/24/15 11:25 AM, wrote: Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange results. Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even worse. . Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the noise of ~165,000 murders. My reading comprehension skills are fine. We don't need a statistical analysis to show that there are more right-wing white boys committing acts of terror, such as last week's in Charleston, than there are Muslims committing similar acts. The results aren't strange. The Southern Poverty Law Center keeps track of violent right-wing groups. There are hundreds and hundreds of them in this country, with really itchy trigger fingers. Your boys, on your side of the political fence. The general murder stats in this country are horrific, no question about it, but that wasn't what I was discussion. You are more than welcome to start a thread about that so that your boys here can chime in. When you are citing murder statistics,to make your case, how are murder statistics insignificant? If you are willing to remember my first thoughts on this killing, I suggested that they should consider this terrorism. Then they might be willing to expend a fraction of the money we are spending on the Jihadists to investigate the aryans. Oh, and if I need help with statistics, I'll ask my wife, who took a number of grad level stats courses and a number of Ph.D. level stats courses. No need to consult an amateur, eh? Maybe you should get some help. I didn't "study" statistics, I was in the business of actually analysing them and learning how to query databases. Actual experience beats a sterile education environment every time. IBM trusted me enough to base million dollar decisions on the conclusions I generated. I was not citing murder statistics, just a count of incidents. Statistics as I am sure you know, involves much more than a simple count. Wow. You could query a database. BFD. The "study" of statistics includes analysis and queries. If basing your conclusion on 48 data points in a 170,000 record field is "analysis" you don't understand statistics either. Somebody started with a conclusion, then sought out some random numbers to "prove it", AKA a "study". My "conclusion" is that there have been more of these terrorist type attack killings in this country since 9-11 that have been perpetrated by right-wing white guys than by Muslims. I know how painful it is for you righties to argue with these simple numbers, and with the far more complex numbers and actual statistics connected with things like "climate change" and such. That is true if you don't think drug gangs are terrorist organizations. II already admitted Charleston was a terror attack and should be treated that way. What do you want from me? You're walking a fine line here. Defining "terrorism" as it is perpetrated in the United States isn't easy, but usually it means the killing of "innocent" civilians in order to terrorize and possibly control that population. While the drug gangs are engaged in a wide variety of activities, most of their killing here seems to involve others involved in the drug trade and other illegal activities - hardly innocents. |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On 6/25/2015 6:19 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/24/15 11:17 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:45:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/24/15 2:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:40:07 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/24/15 2:19 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:50:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/24/15 11:25 AM, wrote: Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange results. Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even worse. . Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the noise of ~165,000 murders. My reading comprehension skills are fine. We don't need a statistical analysis to show that there are more right-wing white boys committing acts of terror, such as last week's in Charleston, than there are Muslims committing similar acts. The results aren't strange. The Southern Poverty Law Center keeps track of violent right-wing groups. There are hundreds and hundreds of them in this country, with really itchy trigger fingers. Your boys, on your side of the political fence. The general murder stats in this country are horrific, no question about it, but that wasn't what I was discussion. You are more than welcome to start a thread about that so that your boys here can chime in. When you are citing murder statistics,to make your case, how are murder statistics insignificant? If you are willing to remember my first thoughts on this killing, I suggested that they should consider this terrorism. Then they might be willing to expend a fraction of the money we are spending on the Jihadists to investigate the aryans. Oh, and if I need help with statistics, I'll ask my wife, who took a number of grad level stats courses and a number of Ph.D. level stats courses. No need to consult an amateur, eh? Maybe you should get some help. I didn't "study" statistics, I was in the business of actually analysing them and learning how to query databases. Actual experience beats a sterile education environment every time. IBM trusted me enough to base million dollar decisions on the conclusions I generated. I was not citing murder statistics, just a count of incidents. Statistics as I am sure you know, involves much more than a simple count. Wow. You could query a database. BFD. The "study" of statistics includes analysis and queries. If basing your conclusion on 48 data points in a 170,000 record field is "analysis" you don't understand statistics either. Somebody started with a conclusion, then sought out some random numbers to "prove it", AKA a "study". My "conclusion" is that there have been more of these terrorist type attack killings in this country since 9-11 that have been perpetrated by right-wing white guys than by Muslims. I know how painful it is for you righties to argue with these simple numbers, and with the far more complex numbers and actual statistics connected with things like "climate change" and such. That is true if you don't think drug gangs are terrorist organizations. II already admitted Charleston was a terror attack and should be treated that way. What do you want from me? You're walking a fine line here. Defining "terrorism" as it is perpetrated in the United States isn't easy, but usually it means the killing of "innocent" civilians in order to terrorize and possibly control that population. While the drug gangs are engaged in a wide variety of activities, most of their killing here seems to involve others involved in the drug trade and other illegal activities - hardly innocents. Anyone who relies on your assessment of anything ought to have his head examined. (Don, you there?) Here is a more reasonable definition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domest..._United_States -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
Right wingers bigger threat to Americans than Muslims
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 11:18:33 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:45:33 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: On 6/24/15 2:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:40:07 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: On 6/24/15 2:19 PM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:50:29 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: On 6/24/15 11:25 AM, wrote: Your reading comprehension skills are failing you again. I simply pointed out using extremely small sample sizes will return strange results. Do you look at every black person as being 14 times more likely to kill you than a white person? That is what the statistics say If you were black, looking at other black people, the ratio is even worse. . Your statistic about 48 people killed in 14 years gets lost in the noise of ~165,000 murders. My reading comprehension skills are fine. We don't need a statistical analysis to show that there are more right-wing white boys committing acts of terror, such as last week's in Charleston, than there are Muslims committing similar acts. The results aren't strange. The Southern Poverty Law Center keeps track of violent right-wing groups. There are hundreds and hundreds of them in this country, with really itchy trigger fingers. Your boys, on your side of the political fence. The general murder stats in this country are horrific, no question about it, but that wasn't what I was discussion. You are more than welcome to start a thread about that so that your boys here can chime in. When you are citing murder statistics,to make your case, how are murder statistics insignificant? If you are willing to remember my first thoughts on this killing, I suggested that they should consider this terrorism. Then they might be willing to expend a fraction of the money we are spending on the Jihadists to investigate the aryans. Oh, and if I need help with statistics, I'll ask my wife, who took a number of grad level stats courses and a number of Ph.D. level stats courses. No need to consult an amateur, eh? Maybe you should get some help. I didn't "study" statistics, I was in the business of actually analysing them and learning how to query databases. Actual experience beats a sterile education environment every time. IBM trusted me enough to base million dollar decisions on the conclusions I generated. I was not citing murder statistics, just a count of incidents. Statistics as I am sure you know, involves much more than a simple count. Wow. You could query a database. BFD. The "study" of statistics includes analysis and queries. If basing your conclusion on 48 data points in a 170,000 record field is "analysis" you don't understand statistics either. Somebody started with a conclusion, then sought out some random numbers to "prove it", AKA a "study". My "conclusion" is that there have been more of these terrorist type attack killings in this country since 9-11 that have been perpetrated by right-wing white guys than by Muslims. I know how painful it is for you righties to argue with these simple numbers, and with the far more complex numbers and actual statistics connected with things like "climate change" and such. That is true if you don't think drug gangs are terrorist organizations. II already admitted Charleston was a terror attack and should be treated that way. What do you want from me? Do a little research on Dr. Kurzman and you'll find he's an apologist for Islam. The "findings" of his "study" aren't surprising, coming from him. |
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