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Lots of crops underwater in my area due to 4 and 5 inch rains. The Mississippi is at about to flood stage with more rain in the forecast. This has been an interesting spring.
Boating is gonna be good this year. Small boat is ready to go and tomorrow if weather permits , goes to the lake. |
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On 6/13/2015 9:49 AM, Tim wrote:
Lots of crops underwater in my area due to 4 and 5 inch rains. The Mississippi is at about to flood stage with more rain in the forecast. This has been an interesting spring. Boating is gonna be good this year. Small boat is ready to go and tomorrow if weather permits , goes to the lake. Your lakes and reservoirs ought to be just about full by now. Happy boating. Be mindful of floating and submerged debris that accompanies heavy rains. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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Oh yes. I know a lot about floating debris!
In the younger days, I remember skiing on the Wabash river and patching a 500 gallon propane bottle float by. Evidently the flood waters got into somebody cabin and lifted the tank until the copper line broke loose and away it won't. It was one of those "well George, there's something you don't see everyday " moments. Lol! |
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Greg, that's one thing about our little Midwest area. We have water but it seems like not enough of it. That sounds odd but our town has done surveys to invite manufacturing industries , and that's the stopper. "We don't have enough water".
So... That's the main concern here . |
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 11:58:53 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 11:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/13/15 11:14 AM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:49:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Lots of crops underwater in my area due to 4 and 5 inch rains. The Mississippi is at about to flood stage with more rain in the forecast. This has been an interesting spring. Boating is gonna be good this year. Small boat is ready to go and tomorrow if weather permits , goes to the lake. I suppose some day we may need to do a massive water project like the chinese are doing now where we send excess water to places that need it. Storage might also be an option but we are looking at the reality of just how big a lake needs to be to be relevant with the new water projects here. Ahhh...a transcontinental water pipeline, built of course, by the lowest price bidder. Just leaks a little. A little water drips out ... oh the humanity. === But think of the children... |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/13/15 11:14 AM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:49:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Lots of crops underwater in my area due to 4 and 5 inch rains. The Mississippi is at about to flood stage with more rain in the forecast. This has been an interesting spring. Boating is gonna be good this year. Small boat is ready to go and tomorrow if weather permits , goes to the lake. I suppose some day we may need to do a massive water project like the chinese are doing now where we send excess water to places that need it. Storage might also be an option but we are looking at the reality of just how big a lake needs to be to be relevant with the new water projects here. Ahhh...a transcontinental water pipeline, built of course, by the lowest price bidder. Just leaks a little. No problem with small leaks. Just adds to the groundwater storage. Bad Union welders? |
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Greg, you have a point. My great aunt used to teach a 1 room school before the Hoover dam was built. Now here little town is all under water.
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On 6/13/15 3:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:32:17 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 1:18 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Greg, that's one thing about our little Midwest area. We have water but it seems like not enough of it. That sounds odd but our town has done surveys to invite manufacturing industries , and that's the stopper. "We don't have enough water". So... That's the main concern here . Water is going to be a much greater problem than oil in the 21st century. The problem is that the things that might smooth out the flood vs drought problems come with an environmental cost we are unlikely to accept. China is not bothered by things like that. They are changing the ecology of vast areas of China and not really thinking that much of the consequences. It is somewhat like the US was during the FDR administration when we were damming up major rivers and flooding vast areas of the landscape out west to save water while channelizing rivers in other places to get rid of fresh water. Both created ecological disasters. Now we are trying to restore the old "lazy" rivers in Florida and they are blowing up dams all over to restore natural flows and reestablish fish runs, It would help if county water commissions didn't grant companies like Nestle carte-blanche to pump water from our aquifers. I doubt Nestle uses more water than a golf course and certainly nothing like an almond orchard.. 725 million gallons a year just for its bottled water products in California. |
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On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 12:55:18 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:32:17 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 1:18 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Greg, that's one thing about our little Midwest area. We have water but it seems like not enough of it. That sounds odd but our town has done surveys to invite manufacturing industries , and that's the stopper. "We don't have enough water". So... That's the main concern here . Water is going to be a much greater problem than oil in the 21st century. The problem is that the things that might smooth out the flood vs drought problems come with an environmental cost we are unlikely to accept. China is not bothered by things like that. They are changing the ecology of vast areas of China and not really thinking that much of the consequences. It is somewhat like the US was during the FDR administration when we were damming up major rivers and flooding vast areas of the landscape out west to save water while channelizing rivers in other places to get rid of fresh water. Both created ecological disasters. Now we are trying to restore the old "lazy" rivers in Florida and they are blowing up dams all over to restore natural flows and reestablish fish runs, It would help if county water commissions didn't grant companies like Nestle carte-blanche to pump water from our aquifers. I doubt Nestle uses more water than a golf course and certainly nothing like an almond orchard.. Don't know the stats, but you could be right. And I'm sure it depends on the area too. |
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:40:31 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 6/13/15 3:55 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:32:17 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 1:18 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Greg, that's one thing about our little Midwest area. We have water but it seems like not enough of it. That sounds odd but our town has done surveys to invite manufacturing industries , and that's the stopper. "We don't have enough water". So... That's the main concern here . Water is going to be a much greater problem than oil in the 21st century. The problem is that the things that might smooth out the flood vs drought problems come with an environmental cost we are unlikely to accept. China is not bothered by things like that. They are changing the ecology of vast areas of China and not really thinking that much of the consequences. It is somewhat like the US was during the FDR administration when we were damming up major rivers and flooding vast areas of the landscape out west to save water while channelizing rivers in other places to get rid of fresh water. Both created ecological disasters. Now we are trying to restore the old "lazy" rivers in Florida and they are blowing up dams all over to restore natural flows and reestablish fish runs, It would help if county water commissions didn't grant companies like Nestle carte-blanche to pump water from our aquifers. I doubt Nestle uses more water than a golf course and certainly nothing like an almond orchard.. 725 million gallons a year just for its bottled water products in California. === The agriculture folks measure water in acre-feet, i.e., the amount of water needed to cover one acre of land with one foot of water. 725 million gallons sounds like a lot of water but it is only about 2,100 acre-feet, a mere drop in the bucket by agricultural standards. It's also important to note that bottled water products do not go to waste - they eventually get consumed by human beings. |
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On 6/13/2015 3:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:32:17 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 1:18 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Greg, that's one thing about our little Midwest area. We have water but it seems like not enough of it. That sounds odd but our town has done surveys to invite manufacturing industries , and that's the stopper. "We don't have enough water". So... That's the main concern here . Water is going to be a much greater problem than oil in the 21st century. The problem is that the things that might smooth out the flood vs drought problems come with an environmental cost we are unlikely to accept. China is not bothered by things like that. They are changing the ecology of vast areas of China and not really thinking that much of the consequences. It is somewhat like the US was during the FDR administration when we were damming up major rivers and flooding vast areas of the landscape out west to save water while channelizing rivers in other places to get rid of fresh water. Both created ecological disasters. Now we are trying to restore the old "lazy" rivers in Florida and they are blowing up dams all over to restore natural flows and reestablish fish runs, It would help if county water commissions didn't grant companies like Nestle carte-blanche to pump water from our aquifers. I doubt Nestle uses more water than a golf course and certainly nothing like an almond orchard.. http://stopnestlewaters.org/tag/florida -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On 6/13/15 8:46 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:40:31 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/13/15 3:55 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:32:17 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 1:18 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Greg, that's one thing about our little Midwest area. We have water but it seems like not enough of it. That sounds odd but our town has done surveys to invite manufacturing industries , and that's the stopper. "We don't have enough water". So... That's the main concern here . Water is going to be a much greater problem than oil in the 21st century. The problem is that the things that might smooth out the flood vs drought problems come with an environmental cost we are unlikely to accept. China is not bothered by things like that. They are changing the ecology of vast areas of China and not really thinking that much of the consequences. It is somewhat like the US was during the FDR administration when we were damming up major rivers and flooding vast areas of the landscape out west to save water while channelizing rivers in other places to get rid of fresh water. Both created ecological disasters. Now we are trying to restore the old "lazy" rivers in Florida and they are blowing up dams all over to restore natural flows and reestablish fish runs, It would help if county water commissions didn't grant companies like Nestle carte-blanche to pump water from our aquifers. I doubt Nestle uses more water than a golf course and certainly nothing like an almond orchard.. 725 million gallons a year just for its bottled water products in California. A golf course can use 15-20 million gallons a month That is tame compared to the crops they are growing in the desert in California. Pretty much all of the water they use is piped in. Indeed, Florida is well-known for wasting its limited supplies of potable water on golf courses, and for its rolling droughts. Years ago, when we lived in NE Florida, lawn watering, even with shallow wells just for that purpose, was not allowed. What color is your lawn? Green, brown? Burnt out? SE Florida and North Central Florida are not doing well, salt water is seeping into your aquifer because the oceans are rising. Fun, fun, fun. http://climatecenter.fsu.edu/topics/drought |
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 20:52:09 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:24:46 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: http://stopnestlewaters.org/tag/florida I would be upset about half a million gallons of water if I didn't have 50,000 "neighbors" putting an inch of water a day on their lawn. === There are people who hate Nestle just because they are a big multi-national company. That's nonsense. I grew up in a town where Nestle was a major employer. They were widely regarded has the best job in town because of their generous compensation and benefits. |
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On 6/13/2015 8:52 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:24:46 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: http://stopnestlewaters.org/tag/florida I would be upset about half a million gallons of water if I didn't have 50,000 "neighbors" putting an inch of water a day on their lawn. No water restrictions in your neighborhood? Maybe that's why you don't care about your gov't awarding licenses to suck our aquifers dry, for profit. What a deal. The water we use finds it's way back to the aquifer, enriched by chemicals laid down by farmers, golf course owners, and lawn worshipers. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On 6/14/15 10:40 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:08:48 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 8:52 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:24:46 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: http://stopnestlewaters.org/tag/florida I would be upset about half a million gallons of water if I didn't have 50,000 "neighbors" putting an inch of water a day on their lawn. No water restrictions in your neighborhood? Maybe that's why you don't care about your gov't awarding licenses to suck our aquifers dry, for profit. What a deal. The water we use finds it's way back to the aquifer, enriched by chemicals laid down by farmers, golf course owners, and lawn worshipers. The water restrictions are toothless. I have no problem with charging water companies for the water they sell but I am not going to let that "anti bottled water" hysteria over inflate their impact on the aquifer. The people who drink that water would be drinking something. By the time your average tap water drinker lets the water run until it is cold and then washes the glass, they use about 10 times as much water as actually gets in their mouth. By the time the oil from that exploded rig finished leaking into the Gulf, it will be so dispersed you'll never even notice it. By the time the oil that leaks from that new midwest pipeline finishes seeping into the aquifer there, making the water undrinkable, you'll never notice it. Repeal the EPA. |
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On 6/14/2015 10:40 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:08:48 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 8:52 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:24:46 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: http://stopnestlewaters.org/tag/florida I would be upset about half a million gallons of water if I didn't have 50,000 "neighbors" putting an inch of water a day on their lawn. No water restrictions in your neighborhood? Maybe that's why you don't care about your gov't awarding licenses to suck our aquifers dry, for profit. What a deal. The water we use finds it's way back to the aquifer, enriched by chemicals laid down by farmers, golf course owners, and lawn worshipers. The water restrictions are toothless. I have no problem with charging water companies for the water they sell but I am not going to let that "anti bottled water" hysteria over inflate their impact on the aquifer. The people who drink that water would be drinking something. By the time your average tap water drinker lets the water run until it is cold and then washes the glass, they use about 10 times as much water as actually gets in their mouth. The lawn worshippers are far worse for the environment than golf courses and farmers. The golf course managers and farmers actually read and follow the label on the container. They have a financial interest in using as little as they can. Most homeowners go by the theory, "if a little is good, a lot is better". If you don't want your argument to appear toothless, show some facts and statistics. On golf courses, only the greens need to be green. The rest can be like your yard. :-) -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:18:32 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote: On golf courses, only the greens need to be green. === Blasphemy! It is impossible to make a proper divot on brown grass. :-) |
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wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:56:17 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/14/15 10:40 AM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:08:48 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 8:52 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:24:46 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: http://stopnestlewaters.org/tag/florida I would be upset about half a million gallons of water if I didn't have 50,000 "neighbors" putting an inch of water a day on their lawn. No water restrictions in your neighborhood? Maybe that's why you don't care about your gov't awarding licenses to suck our aquifers dry, for profit. What a deal. The water we use finds it's way back to the aquifer, enriched by chemicals laid down by farmers, golf course owners, and lawn worshipers. The water restrictions are toothless. I have no problem with charging water companies for the water they sell but I am not going to let that "anti bottled water" hysteria over inflate their impact on the aquifer. The people who drink that water would be drinking something. By the time your average tap water drinker lets the water run until it is cold and then washes the glass, they use about 10 times as much water as actually gets in their mouth. By the time the oil from that exploded rig finished leaking into the Gulf, it will be so dispersed you'll never even notice it. By the time the oil that leaks from that new midwest pipeline finishes seeping into the aquifer there, making the water undrinkable, you'll never notice it. Repeal the EPA. Why is everything you write an off topic brain fart Perfectly on target if you can think abstractly. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On 14 Jun 2015 19:00:59 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:
By the time the oil from that exploded rig finished leaking into the Gulf, it will be so dispersed you'll never even notice it. By the time the oil that leaks from that new midwest pipeline finishes seeping into the aquifer there, making the water undrinkable, you'll never notice it. Repeal the EPA. Why is everything you write an off topic brain fart Perfectly on target if you can think abstractly. === People on LSD think abstractly also. No one is collecting their work and neither is anyone likely to collect yours. |
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On 6/14/2015 3:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On 14 Jun 2015 19:00:59 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: By the time the oil from that exploded rig finished leaking into the Gulf, it will be so dispersed you'll never even notice it. By the time the oil that leaks from that new midwest pipeline finishes seeping into the aquifer there, making the water undrinkable, you'll never notice it. Repeal the EPA. Why is everything you write an off topic brain fart Perfectly on target if you can think abstractly. === People on LSD think abstractly also. No one is collecting their work and neither is anyone likely to collect yours. Borrowed from some bonehead's definition of abstract thinking "6. When compared to concrete thinking, abstract thinking is about understanding the multiple meanings. 7. While abstract thinking is based on ideas, concrete thinking is based on what the person sees as well as the facts." An abstract thinker might be able to come up with multiple meanings, but hasn't a clue as to which is applicable. An abstract thinker has no use for facts. I hope this helps you to understand why Harry won't stay on topic. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:05:24 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 6/14/2015 3:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On 14 Jun 2015 19:00:59 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: By the time the oil from that exploded rig finished leaking into the Gulf, it will be so dispersed you'll never even notice it. By the time the oil that leaks from that new midwest pipeline finishes seeping into the aquifer there, making the water undrinkable, you'll never notice it. Repeal the EPA. Why is everything you write an off topic brain fart Perfectly on target if you can think abstractly. === People on LSD think abstractly also. No one is collecting their work and neither is anyone likely to collect yours. Borrowed from some bonehead's definition of abstract thinking "6. When compared to concrete thinking, abstract thinking is about understanding the multiple meanings. 7. While abstract thinking is based on ideas, concrete thinking is based on what the person sees as well as the facts." An abstract thinker might be able to come up with multiple meanings, but hasn't a clue as to which is applicable. An abstract thinker has no use for facts. I hope this helps you to understand why Harry won't stay on topic. === Interesting observation. I always believed it was because he thought like a woman. |
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On 6/14/2015 4:44 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:05:24 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/14/2015 3:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On 14 Jun 2015 19:00:59 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: By the time the oil from that exploded rig finished leaking into the Gulf, it will be so dispersed you'll never even notice it. By the time the oil that leaks from that new midwest pipeline finishes seeping into the aquifer there, making the water undrinkable, you'll never notice it. Repeal the EPA. Why is everything you write an off topic brain fart Perfectly on target if you can think abstractly. === People on LSD think abstractly also. No one is collecting their work and neither is anyone likely to collect yours. Borrowed from some bonehead's definition of abstract thinking "6. When compared to concrete thinking, abstract thinking is about understanding the multiple meanings. 7. While abstract thinking is based on ideas, concrete thinking is based on what the person sees as well as the facts." An abstract thinker might be able to come up with multiple meanings, but hasn't a clue as to which is applicable. An abstract thinker has no use for facts. I hope this helps you to understand why Harry won't stay on topic. === Interesting observation. I always believed it was because he thought like a woman. Not like any woman I'd want to know. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On Sunday, June 14, 2015 at 4:44:53 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:05:24 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/14/2015 3:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On 14 Jun 2015 19:00:59 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: By the time the oil from that exploded rig finished leaking into the Gulf, it will be so dispersed you'll never even notice it. By the time the oil that leaks from that new midwest pipeline finishes seeping into the aquifer there, making the water undrinkable, you'll never notice it. Repeal the EPA. Why is everything you write an off topic brain fart Perfectly on target if you can think abstractly. === People on LSD think abstractly also. No one is collecting their work and neither is anyone likely to collect yours. Borrowed from some bonehead's definition of abstract thinking "6. When compared to concrete thinking, abstract thinking is about understanding the multiple meanings. 7. While abstract thinking is based on ideas, concrete thinking is based on what the person sees as well as the facts." An abstract thinker might be able to come up with multiple meanings, but hasn't a clue as to which is applicable. An abstract thinker has no use for facts. I hope this helps you to understand why Harry won't stay on topic. === Interesting observation. I always believed it was because he thought like a woman. Now you owe me a new keyboard. Seriously. |
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On 6/14/15 2:24 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:56:17 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/14/15 10:40 AM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:08:48 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 8:52 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:24:46 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: http://stopnestlewaters.org/tag/florida I would be upset about half a million gallons of water if I didn't have 50,000 "neighbors" putting an inch of water a day on their lawn. No water restrictions in your neighborhood? Maybe that's why you don't care about your gov't awarding licenses to suck our aquifers dry, for profit. What a deal. The water we use finds it's way back to the aquifer, enriched by chemicals laid down by farmers, golf course owners, and lawn worshipers. The water restrictions are toothless. I have no problem with charging water companies for the water they sell but I am not going to let that "anti bottled water" hysteria over inflate their impact on the aquifer. The people who drink that water would be drinking something. By the time your average tap water drinker lets the water run until it is cold and then washes the glass, they use about 10 times as much water as actually gets in their mouth. By the time the oil from that exploded rig finished leaking into the Gulf, it will be so dispersed you'll never even notice it. By the time the oil that leaks from that new midwest pipeline finishes seeping into the aquifer there, making the water undrinkable, you'll never notice it. Repeal the EPA. Why is everything you write an off topic brain fart Let's try this again. We, all of us, corporations, municipalities, golf courses, individuals, are destroying the environment. We're misusing a commodity - potable water - that is in short supply in many places in the world. We're creating other environmental disasters, such as fracking and the disputed oil pipeline, that will further negatively impact the supplies of potable water. It's all connected, in the end. You know, one of those "abstractions." |
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Well, instead of getting the boat out the day got really wet. I figured launch time would be about 2-2:30 but the weather forecast for Carlyle I'll. showed heave rains and 30 mile wind gusts which if the wind holds long itakes that shallow lake pretty angry. Sure enough, about 2:30 the storms hit.
If we'd gone we'd probably be stuck out in the middle scrambling for shore, or we would have made a 60 mile one way trip wasted. So..., Eh, another time. |
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On 6/15/2015 6:45 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/14/15 2:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:56:17 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/14/15 10:40 AM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:08:48 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 8:52 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:24:46 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: http://stopnestlewaters.org/tag/florida I would be upset about half a million gallons of water if I didn't have 50,000 "neighbors" putting an inch of water a day on their lawn. No water restrictions in your neighborhood? Maybe that's why you don't care about your gov't awarding licenses to suck our aquifers dry, for profit. What a deal. The water we use finds it's way back to the aquifer, enriched by chemicals laid down by farmers, golf course owners, and lawn worshipers. The water restrictions are toothless. I have no problem with charging water companies for the water they sell but I am not going to let that "anti bottled water" hysteria over inflate their impact on the aquifer. The people who drink that water would be drinking something. By the time your average tap water drinker lets the water run until it is cold and then washes the glass, they use about 10 times as much water as actually gets in their mouth. By the time the oil from that exploded rig finished leaking into the Gulf, it will be so dispersed you'll never even notice it. By the time the oil that leaks from that new midwest pipeline finishes seeping into the aquifer there, making the water undrinkable, you'll never notice it. Repeal the EPA. Why is everything you write an off topic brain fart Let's try this again. We, all of us, corporations, municipalities, golf courses, individuals, are destroying the environment. We're misusing a commodity - potable water - that is in short supply in many places in the world. We're creating other environmental disasters, such as fracking and the disputed oil pipeline, that will further negatively impact the supplies of potable water. It's all connected, in the end. You know, one of those "abstractions." Where.s the gubmint when you need it. Too busy micromanaging our lives to see the forest through the trees. Perhaps in 2016 gubmint will transition into something that will serve all the people and not just certain minority groups. I hope that was abstract enough for you and not too too factual and concrete. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On 6/15/15 6:45 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/14/15 2:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:56:17 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/14/15 10:40 AM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:08:48 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 8:52 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:24:46 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: http://stopnestlewaters.org/tag/florida I would be upset about half a million gallons of water if I didn't have 50,000 "neighbors" putting an inch of water a day on their lawn. No water restrictions in your neighborhood? Maybe that's why you don't care about your gov't awarding licenses to suck our aquifers dry, for profit. What a deal. The water we use finds it's way back to the aquifer, enriched by chemicals laid down by farmers, golf course owners, and lawn worshipers. The water restrictions are toothless. I have no problem with charging water companies for the water they sell but I am not going to let that "anti bottled water" hysteria over inflate their impact on the aquifer. The people who drink that water would be drinking something. By the time your average tap water drinker lets the water run until it is cold and then washes the glass, they use about 10 times as much water as actually gets in their mouth. By the time the oil from that exploded rig finished leaking into the Gulf, it will be so dispersed you'll never even notice it. By the time the oil that leaks from that new midwest pipeline finishes seeping into the aquifer there, making the water undrinkable, you'll never notice it. Repeal the EPA. Why is everything you write an off topic brain fart Let's try this again. We, all of us, corporations, municipalities, golf courses, individuals, are destroying the environment. We're misusing a commodity - potable water - that is in short supply in many places in the world. We're creating other environmental disasters, such as fracking and the disputed oil pipeline, that will further negatively impact the supplies of potable water. It's all connected, in the end. You know, one of those "abstractions." Oh, and how much is Florida governor Rick Scott being paid each year to ignore Georgia-Pacific's illegal daily dumping of toxic waste into Florida's St. Johns River? As luck would have it, Georgia-Pacific is owned by the Koch brothers. What a surprise! |
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 07:42:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Oh, and how much is Florida governor Rick Scott being paid each year to ignore Georgia-Pacific's illegal daily dumping of toxic waste into Florida's St. Johns River? As luck would have it, Georgia-Pacific is owned by the Koch brothers. What a surprise! Maybe you should be more interested in who is paying off the Governor of Maryland and the EPA to ignore all of the pollution coming down the Susquehanna River. You live on that open sewer that gets half it's water from industry, farms and defective sewer plants in New York and Pennsylvania. The politics are blue in those states but the water is brown. Our new governor is a republican and I am not aware of any criminal background in his dossier. Your governor is a known big time crook. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On 6/15/15 11:37 AM, Tim wrote:
What boat? What boat are you talking about, Mr. Context? |
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On 6/15/2015 11:49 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/15/15 11:37 AM, Tim wrote: What boat? What boat are you talking about, Mr. Context? Some say the boat in question doesn't exist. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 07:42:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Oh, and how much is Florida governor Rick Scott being paid each year to ignore Georgia-Pacific's illegal daily dumping of toxic waste into Florida's St. Johns River? As luck would have it, Georgia-Pacific is owned by the Koch brothers. What a surprise! Maybe you should be more interested in who is paying off the Governor of Maryland and the EPA to ignore all of the pollution coming down the Susquehanna River. You live on that open sewer that gets half it's water from industry, farms and defective sewer plants in New York and Pennsylvania. The politics are blue in those states but the water is brown. Our new governor is a republican and I am not aware of any criminal background in his dossier. Your governor is a known big time crook. As are you, tax cheat. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:18:32 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On golf courses, only the greens need to be green. === Blasphemy! It is impossible to make a proper divot on brown grass. :-) Friend worked for Aramco in Saudi Arabia. Said they had greens and desert. You carried a small square of AstroTurf to hit the ball from. |
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:40:31 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 6/13/15 3:55 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:32:17 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 6/13/2015 1:18 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Greg, that's one thing about our little Midwest area. We have water but it seems like not enough of it. That sounds odd but our town has done surveys to invite manufacturing industries , and that's the stopper. "We don't have enough water". So... That's the main concern here . Water is going to be a much greater problem than oil in the 21st century. The problem is that the things that might smooth out the flood vs drought problems come with an environmental cost we are unlikely to accept. China is not bothered by things like that. They are changing the ecology of vast areas of China and not really thinking that much of the consequences. It is somewhat like the US was during the FDR administration when we were damming up major rivers and flooding vast areas of the landscape out west to save water while channelizing rivers in other places to get rid of fresh water. Both created ecological disasters. Now we are trying to restore the old "lazy" rivers in Florida and they are blowing up dams all over to restore natural flows and reestablish fish runs, It would help if county water commissions didn't grant companies like Nestle carte-blanche to pump water from our aquifers. I doubt Nestle uses more water than a golf course and certainly nothing like an almond orchard.. 725 million gallons a year just for its bottled water products in California. A golf course can use 15-20 million gallons a month That is tame compared to the crops they are growing in the desert in California. Pretty much all of the water they use is piped in. About 12 million acre feet this year. Top was 15 million acre feet a few years ago. There s only about 18 million acre feet available. |
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:21:44 -0500, Califbill
wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:18:32 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On golf courses, only the greens need to be green. === Blasphemy! It is impossible to make a proper divot on brown grass. :-) Friend worked for Aramco in Saudi Arabia. Said they had greens and desert. You carried a small square of AstroTurf to hit the ball from. === Those Aramco guys certainly earn their money the hard way. |
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