http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150530/1022751505.html
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Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On 6/2/2015 4:44 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150530/1022751505.html


Propaganda for Russian citizens.

The USS Ross released a video of the "encounter". The Russian Su-24
(there was only one ... not plural as Sputnik News reported) simply
made one pass from abeam and then flew off. It's wings were "clean"
meaning it was unarmed. It didn't "chase" the American ship anywhere.

This type of encounter has been going on for decades. The ships I was
on were routinely approached and monitored by Soviet aircraft and
ships.

The other incident involving the USS Donald Cook whereby the Russians
claim that they completely disabled the ship using electronic warfare
systems and that 27 crew members subsequently "resigned" from the Navy
due to fear has been proven to have been completely fabricated, again
for the benefit of the Russian citizens.

As a politician Putin seems to have the same level of honesty as Hillary
Clinton.

On 6/2/2015 5:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/2/2015 4:44 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150530/1022751505.html


Propaganda for Russian citizens.

The USS Ross released a video of the "encounter". The Russian Su-24
(there was only one ... not plural as Sputnik News reported) simply
made one pass from abeam and then flew off. It's wings were "clean"
meaning it was unarmed. It didn't "chase" the American ship anywhere.

This type of encounter has been going on for decades. The ships I was
on were routinely approached and monitored by Soviet aircraft and
ships.

The other incident involving the USS Donald Cook whereby the Russians
claim that they completely disabled the ship using electronic warfare
systems and that 27 crew members subsequently "resigned" from the Navy
due to fear has been proven to have been completely fabricated, again
for the benefit of the Russian citizens.

As a politician Putin seems to have the same level of honesty as Hillary
Clinton.


Putin is a clever guy, but how did he cohearse the USS Ross to take and
publish the video?

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Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On 6/2/2015 5:22 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 6/2/2015 5:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/2/2015 4:44 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150530/1022751505.html


Propaganda for Russian citizens.

The USS Ross released a video of the "encounter". The Russian Su-24
(there was only one ... not plural as Sputnik News reported) simply
made one pass from abeam and then flew off. It's wings were "clean"
meaning it was unarmed. It didn't "chase" the American ship anywhere.

This type of encounter has been going on for decades. The ships I was
on were routinely approached and monitored by Soviet aircraft and
ships.

The other incident involving the USS Donald Cook whereby the Russians
claim that they completely disabled the ship using electronic warfare
systems and that 27 crew members subsequently "resigned" from the Navy
due to fear has been proven to have been completely fabricated, again
for the benefit of the Russian citizens.

As a politician Putin seems to have the same level of honesty as Hillary
Clinton.


Putin is a clever guy, but how did he cohearse the USS Ross to take and
publish the video?



Here's the US Navy's account:

http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-fighter-jet-close-pass-by-us-destroyer-2015-6

On 6/2/2015 5:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/2/2015 5:22 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 6/2/2015 5:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/2/2015 4:44 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150530/1022751505.html


Propaganda for Russian citizens.

The USS Ross released a video of the "encounter". The Russian Su-24
(there was only one ... not plural as Sputnik News reported) simply
made one pass from abeam and then flew off. It's wings were "clean"
meaning it was unarmed. It didn't "chase" the American ship anywhere.

This type of encounter has been going on for decades. The ships I was
on were routinely approached and monitored by Soviet aircraft and
ships.

The other incident involving the USS Donald Cook whereby the Russians
claim that they completely disabled the ship using electronic warfare
systems and that 27 crew members subsequently "resigned" from the Navy
due to fear has been proven to have been completely fabricated, again
for the benefit of the Russian citizens.

As a politician Putin seems to have the same level of honesty as Hillary
Clinton.


Putin is a clever guy, but how did he cohearse the USS Ross to take and
publish the video?



Here's the US Navy's account:

http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-fighter-jet-close-pass-by-us-destroyer-2015-6


I wonder why the Ross was steaming toward territorial waters. To provoke
a reaction? There doesn't seem to be any other rational motive. But why?

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Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 06:26:42 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I wonder why the Ross was steaming toward territorial waters. To provoke
a reaction? There doesn't seem to be any other rational motive. But why?

===

The usual reason is to test radar systems and responses. Best case is
if you can get the Russians to turn on some of their latest hi tech
electronics and gather the data.

On 6/2/2015 6:39 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 06:26:42 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I wonder why the Ross was steaming toward territorial waters. To provoke
a reaction? There doesn't seem to be any other rational motive. But why?

===

The usual reason is to test radar systems and responses. Best case is
if you can get the Russians to turn on some of their latest hi tech
electronics and gather the data.



It's a game that both sides play and has been going on since the end of
WWII. Nothing unusual.

When the US Navy was testing and gathering signature data for the towed
array passive sonar system that is currently employed on almost all US
Navy vessels, the ships I was on were routinely shadowed by Soviet
destroyers, ELINT ships and aircraft. A few times one of their ships
would purposely cross close by our fantail, trying to damage the towed
array.

There was a "hut" installed on my ship(s) near the towed array winch
that contained all the electronics and comm gear used to display, record
and report contacts made with the array. The Russians were very
interested in it. On one patrol the shipfitters welded a bunch of metal
structures to one side of the hut in a haphazard manner, making what
appeared to be an unusual looking antenna system. The next day one of
the Soviet ELINT ships came up abeam of our ship taking pictures of it.
Many of the crew on our ship manned the rails and gave the Russians
the one finger salute.

On 6/2/15 6:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/2/2015 6:39 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 06:26:42 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I wonder why the Ross was steaming toward territorial waters. To provoke
a reaction? There doesn't seem to be any other rational motive. But why?

===

The usual reason is to test radar systems and responses. Best case is
if you can get the Russians to turn on some of their latest hi tech
electronics and gather the data.



It's a game that both sides play and has been going on since the end of
WWII. Nothing unusual.

When the US Navy was testing and gathering signature data for the towed
array passive sonar system that is currently employed on almost all US
Navy vessels, the ships I was on were routinely shadowed by Soviet
destroyers, ELINT ships and aircraft. A few times one of their ships
would purposely cross close by our fantail, trying to damage the towed
array.

There was a "hut" installed on my ship(s) near the towed array winch
that contained all the electronics and comm gear used to display, record
and report contacts made with the array. The Russians were very
interested in it. On one patrol the shipfitters welded a bunch of metal
structures to one side of the hut in a haphazard manner, making what
appeared to be an unusual looking antenna system. The next day one of
the Soviet ELINT ships came up abeam of our ship taking pictures of it.
Many of the crew on our ship manned the rails and gave the Russians
the one finger salute.






Boys and their toys.