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Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't
ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? |
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On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 7:41:00 PM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. Disappointed that his fat ass wouldn't fit in the seat. |
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On Sat, 23 May 2015 07:43:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: I've been in and owned a good number of two seater sports cars, but this new Corvette was the first one that I thought was "boatlike" in terms of size and visual impact. If you are spending that kind of $$$ on a sports car for a "fun" driver, you can do a lot better, I think. === What do you suggest? I agree with you on the styling of the new 'vette but it is an awful lot of raw power for the price, about the same as a decent performance runabout. A lot of old guys kill themselves in Corvettes however because their reflexes are not good enough to deal with the power on tap. Maybe you *should* get one. |
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On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 9:31:54 AM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 07:43:42 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: I've been in and owned a good number of two seater sports cars, but this new Corvette was the first one that I thought was "boatlike" in terms of size and visual impact. If you are spending that kind of $$$ on a sports car for a "fun" driver, you can do a lot better, I think. === What do you suggest? I agree with you on the styling of the new 'vette but it is an awful lot of raw power for the price, about the same as a decent performance runabout. A lot of old guys kill themselves in Corvettes however because their reflexes are not good enough to deal with the power on tap. Maybe you *should* get one. I owned a 2008 Vette, and it was my daily driver for 3 years. With all the nanny features turned on, it's actually not easy to get it out of shape. For example, from a stand-still you can stomp on the gas and it will barely squawk the tires. Put it in "competition mode" however, and it's a completely different story. Vette's are the best bargain in high performance sports cars. Are there faster cars available that handle better, have better brakes and steering, and are better looking? Of course there are. Just not anywhere close to the price of a Vette. It was fun, but I got tired of it, so I'm back in an A6. |
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On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 6:49:21 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Actually not fiberglass anymore, they're made from a variety of composite materials (plastic). In cubic inches the engine aren't that big, it's just that technology has made it possible to get a lot of power out of less cubes. And despite what you think, there are some folks that just enjoy driving a performance car. You're coming across as a bit of a "hater". :) |
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wrote:
On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. |
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On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. |
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On 5/23/15 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. Oh, I wasn't disputing that half a Corvette engine could drive the car to 90 mph. That's still more than 200 hp, right? The bull**** is the miles per gallon claim. I suspect the car's computer is confused by the shutdown of four cylinders and is reporting three times the MPG the drivetrain is actually producing. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. Oh, I wasn't disputing that half a Corvette engine could drive the car to 90 mph. That's still more than 200 hp, right? The bull**** is the miles per gallon claim. I suspect the car's computer is confused by the shutdown of four cylinders and is reporting three times the MPG the drivetrain is actually producing. I think it measures fuel flow, so hard to be confused. |
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On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. Oh, I wasn't disputing that half a Corvette engine could drive the car to 90 mph. That's still more than 200 hp, right? The bull**** is the miles per gallon claim. I suspect the car's computer is confused by the shutdown of four cylinders and is reporting three times the MPG the drivetrain is actually producing. I think it measures fuel flow, so hard to be confused. Whatever is being measured, it isn't likely that car is delivering 46 mph at 90 mph. Period. |
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On Sat, 23 May 2015 18:49:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: Whatever is being measured, it isn't likely that car is delivering 46 mph at 90 mph. Period. === Ignoring your drunken typo, let's do the math. If a car is getting 46 miles per gallon at 90 mph, that means it is burning 2 gallons per hour. 2 gph with a gasoline engine implies about 20 horsepower (10 hp for every 1 gph - good rule of thumb). It seems unlikely that even a slinky car like a 'vette could do a sustained 90 mph with only 20 horsepower. More likely it was either a transient reading or some sort of glitch in the instrumentation. |
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On 5/23/2015 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. Oh, I wasn't disputing that half a Corvette engine could drive the car to 90 mph. That's still more than 200 hp, right? The bull**** is the miles per gallon claim. I suspect the car's computer is confused by the shutdown of four cylinders and is reporting three times the MPG the drivetrain is actually producing. I think it measures fuel flow, so hard to be confused. I don't understand why anyone would be interested in 48 MPG running on half the engine in a performance oriented car like a Corvette. Then again, I wouldn't want a Corvette. I've driven three. The first (and probably the best that I can remember) was an early 1950's model .. can't remember if it was a '54 or '55, but I know it had a six cylinder engine. I was only 16 years old and the owner of the garage I worked at in the summer had it in storage. He got it out one day and let me take it for a spin. The second was a mid 70's model. Horrible. Handled terribly, shook, quaked and knocked the fillings out of your teeth. The third was a new one that I test drove about 3 years ago when half thinking of getting another toy. Much improved but still did nothing for me. By far the best performance orientated vehicle I've ever owned was a 2002 Porsche 911/996 twin turbo. 450 hp, six speed manual transmission, all wheel drive and still got 18 mpg around town and 22-24 mpg on the highway. The ride was firm but not harsh and it handled like it was on rails. Best engineered automobile I've ever driven. I had to get rid of it though. If I had kept it much longer I would no longer have a driver's license. |
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On 5/23/15 7:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/23/2015 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. Oh, I wasn't disputing that half a Corvette engine could drive the car to 90 mph. That's still more than 200 hp, right? The bull**** is the miles per gallon claim. I suspect the car's computer is confused by the shutdown of four cylinders and is reporting three times the MPG the drivetrain is actually producing. I think it measures fuel flow, so hard to be confused. I don't understand why anyone would be interested in 48 MPG running on half the engine in a performance oriented car like a Corvette. Then again, I wouldn't want a Corvette. I've driven three. The first (and probably the best that I can remember) was an early 1950's model .. can't remember if it was a '54 or '55, but I know it had a six cylinder engine. I was only 16 years old and the owner of the garage I worked at in the summer had it in storage. He got it out one day and let me take it for a spin. The second was a mid 70's model. Horrible. Handled terribly, shook, quaked and knocked the fillings out of your teeth. The third was a new one that I test drove about 3 years ago when half thinking of getting another toy. Much improved but still did nothing for me. By far the best performance orientated vehicle I've ever owned was a 2002 Porsche 911/996 twin turbo. 450 hp, six speed manual transmission, all wheel drive and still got 18 mpg around town and 22-24 mpg on the highway. The ride was firm but not harsh and it handled like it was on rails. Best engineered automobile I've ever driven. I had to get rid of it though. If I had kept it much longer I would no longer have a driver's license. The $80,000 sticker price on the Corvette in question will buy you a very nice new Porsche, though not the model you had. It'll be a much more finely finished and executed car than the Corvette, nearly as fast, too. My dad took an early 70's Corvette in on trade on a new boat. He kept it for a few days and then traded it to a car dealer friend of his for some other vehicle. He said the Corvette rode too hard for his taste and backside. |
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On 5/23/2015 8:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 7:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/23/2015 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. Oh, I wasn't disputing that half a Corvette engine could drive the car to 90 mph. That's still more than 200 hp, right? The bull**** is the miles per gallon claim. I suspect the car's computer is confused by the shutdown of four cylinders and is reporting three times the MPG the drivetrain is actually producing. I think it measures fuel flow, so hard to be confused. I don't understand why anyone would be interested in 48 MPG running on half the engine in a performance oriented car like a Corvette. Then again, I wouldn't want a Corvette. I've driven three. The first (and probably the best that I can remember) was an early 1950's model .. can't remember if it was a '54 or '55, but I know it had a six cylinder engine. I was only 16 years old and the owner of the garage I worked at in the summer had it in storage. He got it out one day and let me take it for a spin. The second was a mid 70's model. Horrible. Handled terribly, shook, quaked and knocked the fillings out of your teeth. The third was a new one that I test drove about 3 years ago when half thinking of getting another toy. Much improved but still did nothing for me. By far the best performance orientated vehicle I've ever owned was a 2002 Porsche 911/996 twin turbo. 450 hp, six speed manual transmission, all wheel drive and still got 18 mpg around town and 22-24 mpg on the highway. The ride was firm but not harsh and it handled like it was on rails. Best engineered automobile I've ever driven. I had to get rid of it though. If I had kept it much longer I would no longer have a driver's license. The $80,000 sticker price on the Corvette in question will buy you a very nice new Porsche, though not the model you had. It'll be a much more finely finished and executed car than the Corvette, nearly as fast, too. My dad took an early 70's Corvette in on trade on a new boat. He kept it for a few days and then traded it to a car dealer friend of his for some other vehicle. He said the Corvette rode too hard for his taste and backside. The '70's vintage Corvette I drove for a week was horrible. Maybe there was something wrong with it but it shook and quaked horribly. Maybe it was because it was a convertible. My lawyer friend has a naturally aspirated Porsche 911. If I were ever to get another one I'd probably forgo the twin turbo. Other than the blistering acceleration of the turbo, there isn't much difference in handling or ride and his has all the horsepower you would ever need for driving on the road. Mine was basically the racing version but had all the finishing touches (nice interior and sound dampening) that they leave out to reduce weight in the full bore racing version. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/23/2015 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. Oh, I wasn't disputing that half a Corvette engine could drive the car to 90 mph. That's still more than 200 hp, right? The bull**** is the miles per gallon claim. I suspect the car's computer is confused by the shutdown of four cylinders and is reporting three times the MPG the drivetrain is actually producing. I think it measures fuel flow, so hard to be confused. I don't understand why anyone would be interested in 48 MPG running on half the engine in a performance oriented car like a Corvette. Then again, I wouldn't want a Corvette. I've driven three. The first (and probably the best that I can remember) was an early 1950's model .. can't remember if it was a '54 or '55, but I know it had a six cylinder engine. I was only 16 years old and the owner of the garage I worked at in the summer had it in storage. He got it out one day and let me take it for a spin. The second was a mid 70's model. Horrible. Handled terribly, shook, quaked and knocked the fillings out of your teeth. The third was a new one that I test drove about 3 years ago when half thinking of getting another toy. Much improved but still did nothing for me. By far the best performance orientated vehicle I've ever owned was a 2002 Porsche 911/996 twin turbo. 450 hp, six speed manual transmission, all wheel drive and still got 18 mpg around town and 22-24 mpg on the highway. The ride was firm but not harsh and it handled like it was on rails. Best engineered automobile I've ever driven. I had to get rid of it though. If I had kept it much longer I would no longer have a driver's license. Wasn't the M5 easier to run too fast? |
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On 5/23/2015 11:51 PM, Username wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/23/2015 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. Oh, I wasn't disputing that half a Corvette engine could drive the car to 90 mph. That's still more than 200 hp, right? The bull**** is the miles per gallon claim. I suspect the car's computer is confused by the shutdown of four cylinders and is reporting three times the MPG the drivetrain is actually producing. I think it measures fuel flow, so hard to be confused. I don't understand why anyone would be interested in 48 MPG running on half the engine in a performance oriented car like a Corvette. Then again, I wouldn't want a Corvette. I've driven three. The first (and probably the best that I can remember) was an early 1950's model .. can't remember if it was a '54 or '55, but I know it had a six cylinder engine. I was only 16 years old and the owner of the garage I worked at in the summer had it in storage. He got it out one day and let me take it for a spin. The second was a mid 70's model. Horrible. Handled terribly, shook, quaked and knocked the fillings out of your teeth. The third was a new one that I test drove about 3 years ago when half thinking of getting another toy. Much improved but still did nothing for me. By far the best performance orientated vehicle I've ever owned was a 2002 Porsche 911/996 twin turbo. 450 hp, six speed manual transmission, all wheel drive and still got 18 mpg around town and 22-24 mpg on the highway. The ride was firm but not harsh and it handled like it was on rails. Best engineered automobile I've ever driven. I had to get rid of it though. If I had kept it much longer I would no longer have a driver's license. Wasn't the M5 easier to run too fast? Both the Porsche and the M5 were too tempting to run too fast. That's why I wouldn't have a license today if I still had either of them. The M5 was fast (500 hp) but lacked the "feel" of the Porsche and was far too complicated and computer dependent for it's own (and the owner's) good. For sports/performance cars of this type I am not a big fan of automatic, sequential transmissions. The M5 would shift automatically or you could control shifting manually using the stick or the paddles. Still wasn't the same as the Porsche with a conventional 6 speed and clutch. As far as pure acceleration the Porsche was faster. The biggest difference was in normal, around town driving. The M5 felt like a stiffly sprung BMW 535 but at 30-40 mph the Porsche still felt like a sports car. |
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On 5/24/2015 9:08 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 8:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2015 04:58:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Wasn't the M5 easier to run too fast? Both the Porsche and the M5 were too tempting to run too fast. That's why I wouldn't have a license today if I still had either of them. The M5 was fast (500 hp) but lacked the "feel" of the Porsche and was far too complicated and computer dependent for it's own (and the owner's) good. For sports/performance cars of this type I am not a big fan of automatic, sequential transmissions. The M5 would shift automatically or you could control shifting manually using the stick or the paddles. Still wasn't the same as the Porsche with a conventional 6 speed and clutch. As far as pure acceleration the Porsche was faster. The biggest difference was in normal, around town driving. The M5 felt like a stiffly sprung BMW 535 but at 30-40 mph the Porsche still felt like a sports car. I was lucky to have the Corvette before we really had a speed limit. The cops were pretty rare on the beltway before the double nickel made speeding a profit center. I have made many laps of the Beltway at well over 100. The vette topped out around 140 with a stopwatch in measured miles although the speedometer said 160 or so. You could see the gas gauge move at that speed. I had one really rich guy friend when I was in junior high and high school. On his 16th birthday, his dad bought him a new Jag XK150 roadster. Grrrr. Anyway, we were out on the Connecticut Turnpike one bright sunny afternoon and he decided to see how fast it would go. We were doing 125 when he passed a State Trooper, who pulled us over. The trooper recognized my buddy's last name and asked if his dad was the lawyer who handled cases for cops killed or disabled in the line of duty in terms of collecting substantial settlements from the insurance companies/municipalities, et cetera. Turns out he was. My friend got away with a warning. Too cool. My sports car supposedly will do 175 mph, but I've never had it above 110. Route 4 has County Mounties and Staties *everywhere* :) Why own it then, if you are afraid to use it the way it designed to be driven -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:28:39 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/24/2015 9:08 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/24/15 8:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2015 04:58:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Wasn't the M5 easier to run too fast? Both the Porsche and the M5 were too tempting to run too fast. That's why I wouldn't have a license today if I still had either of them. The M5 was fast (500 hp) but lacked the "feel" of the Porsche and was far too complicated and computer dependent for it's own (and the owner's) good. For sports/performance cars of this type I am not a big fan of automatic, sequential transmissions. The M5 would shift automatically or you could control shifting manually using the stick or the paddles. Still wasn't the same as the Porsche with a conventional 6 speed and clutch. As far as pure acceleration the Porsche was faster. The biggest difference was in normal, around town driving. The M5 felt like a stiffly sprung BMW 535 but at 30-40 mph the Porsche still felt like a sports car. I was lucky to have the Corvette before we really had a speed limit. The cops were pretty rare on the beltway before the double nickel made speeding a profit center. I have made many laps of the Beltway at well over 100. The vette topped out around 140 with a stopwatch in measured miles although the speedometer said 160 or so. You could see the gas gauge move at that speed. I had one really rich guy friend when I was in junior high and high school. On his 16th birthday, his dad bought him a new Jag XK150 roadster. Grrrr. Anyway, we were out on the Connecticut Turnpike one bright sunny afternoon and he decided to see how fast it would go. We were doing 125 when he passed a State Trooper, who pulled us over. The trooper recognized my buddy's last name and asked if his dad was the lawyer who handled cases for cops killed or disabled in the line of duty in terms of collecting substantial settlements from the insurance companies/municipalities, et cetera. Turns out he was. My friend got away with a warning. Too cool. My sports car supposedly will do 175 mph, but I've never had it above 110. Route 4 has County Mounties and Staties *everywhere* :) Why own it then, if you are afraid to use it the way it designed to be driven He uses it to pull his boat. -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On 5/24/15 10:59 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:28:39 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: On 5/24/2015 9:08 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/24/15 8:47 AM, wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2015 04:58:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Wasn't the M5 easier to run too fast? Both the Porsche and the M5 were too tempting to run too fast. That's why I wouldn't have a license today if I still had either of them. The M5 was fast (500 hp) but lacked the "feel" of the Porsche and was far too complicated and computer dependent for it's own (and the owner's) good. For sports/performance cars of this type I am not a big fan of automatic, sequential transmissions. The M5 would shift automatically or you could control shifting manually using the stick or the paddles. Still wasn't the same as the Porsche with a conventional 6 speed and clutch. As far as pure acceleration the Porsche was faster. The biggest difference was in normal, around town driving. The M5 felt like a stiffly sprung BMW 535 but at 30-40 mph the Porsche still felt like a sports car. I was lucky to have the Corvette before we really had a speed limit. The cops were pretty rare on the beltway before the double nickel made speeding a profit center. I have made many laps of the Beltway at well over 100. The vette topped out around 140 with a stopwatch in measured miles although the speedometer said 160 or so. You could see the gas gauge move at that speed. I had one really rich guy friend when I was in junior high and high school. On his 16th birthday, his dad bought him a new Jag XK150 roadster. Grrrr. Anyway, we were out on the Connecticut Turnpike one bright sunny afternoon and he decided to see how fast it would go. We were doing 125 when he passed a State Trooper, who pulled us over. The trooper recognized my buddy's last name and asked if his dad was the lawyer who handled cases for cops killed or disabled in the line of duty in terms of collecting substantial settlements from the insurance companies/municipalities, et cetera. Turns out he was. My friend got away with a warning. Too cool. My sports car supposedly will do 175 mph, but I've never had it above 110. Route 4 has County Mounties and Staties *everywhere* :) Why own it then, if you are afraid to use it the way it designed to be driven He uses it to pull his boat. Awwww...the two little snarks, FlaJim and John the Racist, are giving each other reacharounds...hope they are using rubber gloves. |
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 04:58:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Wasn't the M5 easier to run too fast? Both the Porsche and the M5 were too tempting to run too fast. That's why I wouldn't have a license today if I still had either of them. The M5 was fast (500 hp) but lacked the "feel" of the Porsche and was far too complicated and computer dependent for it's own (and the owner's) good. For sports/performance cars of this type I am not a big fan of automatic, sequential transmissions. The M5 would shift automatically or you could control shifting manually using the stick or the paddles. Still wasn't the same as the Porsche with a conventional 6 speed and clutch. As far as pure acceleration the Porsche was faster. The biggest difference was in normal, around town driving. The M5 felt like a stiffly sprung BMW 535 but at 30-40 mph the Porsche still felt like a sports car. I was lucky to have the Corvette before we really had a speed limit. The cops were pretty rare on the beltway before the double nickel made speeding a profit center. I have made many laps of the Beltway at well over 100. The vette topped out around 140 with a stopwatch in measured miles although the speedometer said 160 or so. You could see the gas gauge move at that speed. I had a 64 coupe. I bought it for SCCA racing. Was a fun car. Mine would top out at about 155. But that was mostly a choice of gearing. Laguna Seca in those days, I topped out at about 130. Course is changed now, so do not know what top speed would be. Raced against 289 Cobras, B Production, and could go through a turn at same speed, but Cobra acceleration was much greater coming out of the turn. 1000 pounds less weight, on a 1950 suspension. I think of buying a 1962 for a toy once in a while. Always thought that was one of the nicer looking cars. But a lot rougher riding than the new ones. |
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says... On Sat, 23 May 2015 19:49:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I don't understand why anyone would be interested in 48 MPG running on half the engine in a performance oriented car like a Corvette. Then again, I wouldn't want a Corvette. I've driven three. The first (and probably the best that I can remember) was an early 1950's model .. can't remember if it was a '54 or '55, but I know it had a six cylinder engine. I was only 16 years old and the owner of the garage I worked at in the summer had it in storage. He got it out one day and let me take it for a spin. The second was a mid 70's model. Horrible. Handled terribly, shook, quaked and knocked the fillings out of your teeth. The third was a new one that I test drove about 3 years ago when half thinking of getting another toy. Much improved but still did nothing for me. By far the best performance orientated vehicle I've ever owned was a 2002 Porsche 911/996 twin turbo. 450 hp, six speed manual transmission, all wheel drive and still got 18 mpg around town and 22-24 mpg on the highway. The ride was firm but not harsh and it handled like it was on rails. Best engineered automobile I've ever driven. I had to get rid of it though. If I had kept it much longer I would no longer have a driver's license. I had a 69 Corvette that I drove for 3 years and put 170,000 miles on. It was OK but nothing special. I traded it for a Jeep. I think my 97 Prelude handles as well and on the right windy road, I doubt that 69 Corvette could ever get out of sight of me. Getting 170,000 miles out of any 1969 car is "special." Here's a couple decent comparisons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1IPvRuyzo8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6y7oeZx9WY I prefer the Ferrari. But will settle for my Taurus. |
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On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 11:25:17 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
Awwww...the two little snarks, FlaJim and John the Racist, are giving each other reacharounds...hope they are using rubber gloves. Just like you give donnie dicklicker when you're jobbing his ass. |
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:08:19 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: My sports car supposedly will do 175 mph, but I've never had it above 110. Route 4 has County Mounties and Staties *everywhere* :) === Want to try again with another imaginary possession? The Maryland DMV has no record of you or your wife owning any such vehicle. |
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On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 6:18:57 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:08:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: My sports car supposedly will do 175 mph, but I've never had it above 110. Route 4 has County Mounties and Staties *everywhere* :) === Want to try again with another imaginary possession? The Maryland DMV has no record of you or your wife owning any such vehicle. BUSTED !!!! PAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/23/2015 11:51 PM, Username wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/23/2015 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. Oh, I wasn't disputing that half a Corvette engine could drive the car to 90 mph. That's still more than 200 hp, right? The bull**** is the miles per gallon claim. I suspect the car's computer is confused by the shutdown of four cylinders and is reporting three times the MPG the drivetrain is actually producing. I think it measures fuel flow, so hard to be confused. I don't understand why anyone would be interested in 48 MPG running on half the engine in a performance oriented car like a Corvette. Then again, I wouldn't want a Corvette. I've driven three. The first (and probably the best that I can remember) was an early 1950's model .. can't remember if it was a '54 or '55, but I know it had a six cylinder engine. I was only 16 years old and the owner of the garage I worked at in the summer had it in storage. He got it out one day and let me take it for a spin. The second was a mid 70's model. Horrible. Handled terribly, shook, quaked and knocked the fillings out of your teeth. The third was a new one that I test drove about 3 years ago when half thinking of getting another toy. Much improved but still did nothing for me. By far the best performance orientated vehicle I've ever owned was a 2002 Porsche 911/996 twin turbo. 450 hp, six speed manual transmission, all wheel drive and still got 18 mpg around town and 22-24 mpg on the highway. The ride was firm but not harsh and it handled like it was on rails. Best engineered automobile I've ever driven. I had to get rid of it though. If I had kept it much longer I would no longer have a driver's license. Wasn't the M5 easier to run too fast? Both the Porsche and the M5 were too tempting to run too fast. That's why I wouldn't have a license today if I still had either of them. The M5 was fast (500 hp) but lacked the "feel" of the Porsche and was far too complicated and computer dependent for it's own (and the owner's) good. For sports/performance cars of this type I am not a big fan of automatic, sequential transmissions. The M5 would shift automatically or you could control shifting manually using the stick or the paddles. Still wasn't the same as the Porsche with a conventional 6 speed and clutch. As far as pure acceleration the Porsche was faster. The biggest difference was in normal, around town driving. The M5 felt like a stiffly sprung BMW 535 but at 30-40 mph the Porsche still felt like a sports car. My current tow vehicle is an ML550. The X5 50i I replaced was like your Porsche and the new car like the M5 - a very different "feel". It's the only thing I don't like about it but there is a significant difference. I notice it immediately if I hit an off ramp just a little faster than I'm used to. As far as speed, I'm lucky to be in an area where 80 is the norm so as long as I'm not the fastest on the road, I'm fine. The police here seem to really like to target the new-generation pony cars anyway. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:08:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: My sports car supposedly will do 175 mph, but I've never had it above 110. Route 4 has County Mounties and Staties *everywhere* :) === Want to try again with another imaginary possession? The Maryland DMV has no record of you or your wife owning any such vehicle. He owns nothing. The IRS would seize any substantial asset for back taxes. That's why the house is in Karen's name. |
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wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015 19:24:23 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015 18:49:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Whatever is being measured, it isn't likely that car is delivering 46 mph at 90 mph. Period. === Ignoring your drunken typo, let's do the math. If a car is getting 46 miles per gallon at 90 mph, that means it is burning 2 gallons per hour. 2 gph with a gasoline engine implies about 20 horsepower (10 hp for every 1 gph - good rule of thumb). It seems unlikely that even a slinky car like a 'vette could do a sustained 90 mph with only 20 horsepower. More likely it was either a transient reading or some sort of glitch in the instrumentation. I had the instant MPG on my old LeBaron and it was fun to peg it at 99MPG ... coasting down the Sunshine Skyway bridge. It would be interesting to see how long he could keep up that number at 90 99mpg is probably the highest it would read. Coasting would be much higher! Highest it reads. But is infinite pretty much. Has a de fuel solenoid. So coasting shuts off fuel to the engine on modern EFI. |
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On 5/24/2015 11:23 PM, Username wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/23/2015 11:51 PM, Username wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/23/2015 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 1:16 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 5/23/15 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:45:49 -0500, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Got talked into a test ride today in a 2015 Corvette convertible (don't ask) at a dealership while I was waiting for something else and was impressed and disappointed. I was impressed with the car's get up and go and its cornering abilities...very nice. I was disappointed with the seeming hugeness of the car from the exterior and the relatively tiny passenger space inside. I was disappointed with the garishness of the interior, and the fit and finish of some items. I didn't like the seats all that much, and I thought the car rode, well, hard. The sticker price on the car was $80,000. Dunno what it might sell for... Be this has what to do with boating? Hey it is an overpriced chunk of fiberglass, with an oversized engine, sold to people with an over riding desire to boost their self esteem. Sounds like a lot of "performance" boats they sell. Lots of cars are overpriced. At least the Corvette is fun to,drive. Have a friend with a new vette. Says ease up to 90 mph and it goes in to 4 cylinder mode and averages 46.5 mpg. Car ride hard? How many soft riding cars handle worth a crap. I know you won't understand this, but there is a difference between a firm-riding car and a hard-riding car. Also, there are plenty of cars that are fun to drive. Oh, and your friend is bull****ting you about getting 46 mph at 90 mph while the car is running on four cylinders and, even funnier, you believe it. Of course you know all. Very aerodynamic vehicle. Does not take a lot of power to maintain speed. Oh, I wasn't disputing that half a Corvette engine could drive the car to 90 mph. That's still more than 200 hp, right? The bull**** is the miles per gallon claim. I suspect the car's computer is confused by the shutdown of four cylinders and is reporting three times the MPG the drivetrain is actually producing. I think it measures fuel flow, so hard to be confused. I don't understand why anyone would be interested in 48 MPG running on half the engine in a performance oriented car like a Corvette. Then again, I wouldn't want a Corvette. I've driven three. The first (and probably the best that I can remember) was an early 1950's model .. can't remember if it was a '54 or '55, but I know it had a six cylinder engine. I was only 16 years old and the owner of the garage I worked at in the summer had it in storage. He got it out one day and let me take it for a spin. The second was a mid 70's model. Horrible. Handled terribly, shook, quaked and knocked the fillings out of your teeth. The third was a new one that I test drove about 3 years ago when half thinking of getting another toy. Much improved but still did nothing for me. By far the best performance orientated vehicle I've ever owned was a 2002 Porsche 911/996 twin turbo. 450 hp, six speed manual transmission, all wheel drive and still got 18 mpg around town and 22-24 mpg on the highway. The ride was firm but not harsh and it handled like it was on rails. Best engineered automobile I've ever driven. I had to get rid of it though. If I had kept it much longer I would no longer have a driver's license. Wasn't the M5 easier to run too fast? Both the Porsche and the M5 were too tempting to run too fast. That's why I wouldn't have a license today if I still had either of them. The M5 was fast (500 hp) but lacked the "feel" of the Porsche and was far too complicated and computer dependent for it's own (and the owner's) good. For sports/performance cars of this type I am not a big fan of automatic, sequential transmissions. The M5 would shift automatically or you could control shifting manually using the stick or the paddles. Still wasn't the same as the Porsche with a conventional 6 speed and clutch. As far as pure acceleration the Porsche was faster. The biggest difference was in normal, around town driving. The M5 felt like a stiffly sprung BMW 535 but at 30-40 mph the Porsche still felt like a sports car. My current tow vehicle is an ML550. The X5 50i I replaced was like your Porsche and the new car like the M5 - a very different "feel". It's the only thing I don't like about it but there is a significant difference. I notice it immediately if I hit an off ramp just a little faster than I'm used to. As far as speed, I'm lucky to be in an area where 80 is the norm so as long as I'm not the fastest on the road, I'm fine. The police here seem to really like to target the new-generation pony cars anyway. Speaking of pony cars ... I had a new (in 2008) Mustang "Bullitt" for a while. Long story as to how I happened to acquire that one. It was a surprisingly fast and good handling car. Not in the same league of the BMW M5 or the Porsche but at about 1/4th the price not bad at all. |
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 18:18:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:08:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: My sports car supposedly will do 175 mph, but I've never had it above 110. Route 4 has County Mounties and Staties *everywhere* :) === Want to try again with another imaginary possession? The Maryland DMV has no record of you or your wife owning any such vehicle. Bull. It's the prime mover of the boat. You should see the combination whipping through Calvert County at 110 mph! -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On 5/25/15 8:26 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2015 18:18:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:08:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: My sports car supposedly will do 175 mph, but I've never had it above 110. Route 4 has County Mounties and Staties *everywhere* :) === Want to try again with another imaginary possession? The Maryland DMV has no record of you or your wife owning any such vehicle. Bull. It's the prime mover of the boat. You should see the combination whipping through Calvert County at 110 mph! Would that be you towing your tinny motel room down Route 4 towards the Navy Rec Center? Do the rest of the campers there, some of whom are not white, know you are a racist? It's not a great idea to drive at excessive speeds through the county, but, hey, you're an exceptional guy, so...go for it. |
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On 5/25/2015 8:26 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2015 18:18:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:08:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: My sports car supposedly will do 175 mph, but I've never had it above 110. Route 4 has County Mounties and Staties *everywhere* :) === Want to try again with another imaginary possession? The Maryland DMV has no record of you or your wife owning any such vehicle. Bull. It's the prime mover of the boat. You should see the combination whipping through Calvert County at 110 mph! What will we ever do for entertainment when Krause kicks the bucket? -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On Mon, 25 May 2015 08:26:36 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2015 18:18:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:08:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: My sports car supposedly will do 175 mph, but I've never had it above 110. Route 4 has County Mounties and Staties *everywhere* :) === Want to try again with another imaginary possession? The Maryland DMV has no record of you or your wife owning any such vehicle. Bull. It's the prime mover of the boat. You should see the combination whipping through Calvert County at 110 mph! === Unsafe at any speed. :-) |
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