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In article ,
says...

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 08:56:41 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/15/15 2:26 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 01:19:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:55:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://makeuseof.tradepub.com/free/w_wile155/prgm.cgi

FREE book on Windoze 8. Computer to run it, extra.


===

Just for your obviously lacking information, Windows 8 generally
sucks.

Windows 7 is the good one.

Nobody has showed me a compelling reason to get rid of XP.

If your applications do not change, why should your computer change?

I find it amusing that harry, who normally likes to rail on about how
corporations screw consumers, falls for this planned obsolescence
scam.
They are tricking the public into throwing away perfectly good systems
and buying new ones, not getting any real productivity gain, only
pumping up the bottom line of Microsoft and the off shore hardware
manufacturers.

I know this will make harry's head explode but I just got the duty of
managing boat ramp keys and I am doing it on dBase IV, the DOS
version.
This is a pure text operation and I am consolidating data from 4
separate systems that do not talk to each other. I know of no windoze
application that would do it without massive amounts of new data
entry.

It actually felt good to dust off my old coding skills and write the
routines that were able to merge all of these formats into a single
searchable database.

I have an old Thinkpad with DOS 6,3 loaded on it and I am thinking
about putting the key application on it just for old times sake ;-)

This is a P1 100 machine with 64 meg on it and DOS runs like a scalded
dog. You can "ramdisk" all of your DASD into memory and crunching
databases really screams. These databases really only have 400 records
in one and 130 in the other so it is fast anyway.

I am also working on the interactive map application that will let you
click on a lot and get all of the data for that owner, similar to the
LEEPA..ORG property appraiser site. That will be web based so it is a
it more GUI intensive. I am still using my dBase application to
develop the data for that application, exporting it as TXT files that
the web site will access.



Wow...dBase. When I got my first IBM PC the year it came out, I used
Volkswriter as a word processor and sometime that was called, I think,
PC-File. I did graduate to a version of dBase for a while and then I
moved over to rBase on the PC. These days, I use something called
Filemaker to maintain several databases. I'm at least several versions
behind on Filemaker, though.

There is a programming language on dBase that did not make it to the
competition like Foxbase and the others. It is actually a subset of
DOS assembler that allows very powerful applications.
When I was doing some serious database stuff with IBM I still had
cases where it was easier to export my SQL based DB2 data into dBase,
crunch it and import it back into DB2.
I used to get a lot of "how did you do that"? from experienced DB2
guys.

Sounds like ignorance from both sides. I was a DB2 programmer and could
do anything I wanted with it.

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On 3/15/2015 1:40 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 09:41:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 09:06:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It has to be something in how he has it set up or possibly missing
a required Flash driver.

===

Or possibly an interaction with ad blocking or anti virus software. I
use Firefox (with Win 7) most of the time but certain videos will not
play unless I switch to Internet Explorer.

Does that occur when you click a link only outside Firefox?



If you are using Firefox as your browser, how do you click on a link
"outside" Firefox?

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On 3/15/2015 1:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 09:58:07 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/15/2015 9:41 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 09:06:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It has to be something in how he has it set up or possibly missing
a required Flash driver.

===

Or possibly an interaction with ad blocking or anti virus software. I
use Firefox (with Win 7) most of the time but certain videos will not
play unless I switch to Internet Explorer.


Could be, I suppose. I have "Ad-Block" running and I use AVG for
anti-virus.

Once in a while a site with a video will detect that Ad-Block is enabled
and running and will prevent the video from playing. If I really want
to see it I can do a one time "allow" in the Ad-Block setting, put up
with the advertisement and then see the video. I think it would do the
same in Internet Explorer as well (if you are using Ad-Block).

It only happens once in a great while though. Most of the time I can
view any of the videos (minus the ads) with no problem.

Does Ad-Block prevent the ads that begin with many of the YouTube videos?



Yes.

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In article ,
says...

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 19:55:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/14/15 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:55:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://makeuseof.tradepub.com/free/w_wile155/prgm.cgi

FREE book on Windoze 8. Computer to run it, extra.


Why would I want windoze 8 if I don't have a touch screen tablet?

That was what was added to 7.


Oh. I wouldn't know, since the last Windoze I knew anything about was 7.

I think that simply the number of commercial users who are staying on
XP demonstrates that there is no real functional reason to change.
Microsoft is pushing 7, 8 and even 9 on us because they can't make
money if people just say "I'm good".


There's some truth to that. Same with new cars.

When I was actually working in the computer business, I found that the
people who stayed one generation behind were the most successful.

Win 7 is exactly that, but it wasn't ill-concieved like some prior OS's.
Recognizing it's value was a decision IT managers had to make.
When XP would become obsolete was a part of that decision.
For the consumer market that decision gets made by PC providers.
New PC's don't come with XP loaded.

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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:44:34 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/15/2015 10:39 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:01:07 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/15/2015 8:19 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 01:19:17 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:55:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://makeuseof.tradepub.com/free/w_wile155/prgm.cgi

FREE book on Windoze 8. Computer to run it, extra.


===

Just for your obviously lacking information, Windows 8 generally
sucks.

Windows 7 is the good one.

I've been happy with 7, although I still have problems with Firefox.

Firefox is fine. The only real issue with it is Flash Player's security
vulnerabilities. Flash player works fine with I.E.

Since he said "outlook" I suspect Microsoft just doesn't play well
with firefox or the brand of flash you are using.

Who said outlook? If it was in one of Harry's links, I generally don't
open them.

I mentioned Outlook. I never open Harry's links.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:07:19 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/15/2015 1:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2015 12:44 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 3/15/2015 10:39 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:01:07 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/15/2015 8:19 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 01:19:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:55:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://makeuseof.tradepub.com/free/w_wile155/prgm.cgi

FREE book on Windoze 8. Computer to run it, extra.


===

Just for your obviously lacking information, Windows 8 generally
sucks.

Windows 7 is the good one.

I've been happy with 7, although I still have problems with Firefox.

Firefox is fine. The only real issue with it is Flash Player's security
vulnerabilities. Flash player works fine with I.E.

Since he said "outlook" I suspect Microsoft just doesn't play well
with firefox or the brand of flash you are using.

Who said outlook? If it was in one of Harry's links, I generally don't
open them.



John mentioned using Outlook. I don't know anyone else who uses it.


OK. Me neither. Tbird works fine for me.

Does Tbird have all the capabilities of Outlook (not Outlook Express), like the
Calendar, Contact List, ability to print mailing labels, etc. And, will it pick up
the data from the Outlook .pst file?
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:22:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/15/2015 10:01 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:32:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/15/2015 2:26 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 01:19:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:55:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://makeuseof.tradepub.com/free/w_wile155/prgm.cgi

FREE book on Windoze 8. Computer to run it, extra.


===

Just for your obviously lacking information, Windows 8 generally
sucks.

Windows 7 is the good one.

Nobody has showed me a compelling reason to get rid of XP.

If your applications do not change, why should your computer change?

I find it amusing that harry, who normally likes to rail on about how
corporations screw consumers, falls for this planned obsolescence
scam.
They are tricking the public into throwing away perfectly good systems
and buying new ones, not getting any real productivity gain, only
pumping up the bottom line of Microsoft and the off shore hardware
manufacturers.

I know this will make harry's head explode but I just got the duty of
managing boat ramp keys and I am doing it on dBase IV, the DOS
version.
This is a pure text operation and I am consolidating data from 4
separate systems that do not talk to each other. I know of no windoze
application that would do it without massive amounts of new data
entry.

It actually felt good to dust off my old coding skills and write the
routines that were able to merge all of these formats into a single
searchable database.

I have an old Thinkpad with DOS 6,3 loaded on it and I am thinking
about putting the key application on it just for old times sake ;-)

This is a P1 100 machine with 64 meg on it and DOS runs like a scalded
dog. You can "ramdisk" all of your DASD into memory and crunching
databases really screams. These databases really only have 400 records
in one and 130 in the other so it is fast anyway.

I am also working on the interactive map application that will let you
click on a lot and get all of the data for that owner, similar to the
LEEPA..ORG property appraiser site. That will be web based so it is a
it more GUI intensive. I am still using my dBase application to
develop the data for that application, exporting it as TXT files that
the web site will access.



It's obvious that for your personal requirements the older generation
operating systems are fine. You apparently are a stand alone operator
with no need to file share or allow others to have access to
the software you use or write on newer computers. You remind me of a
luthier friend I have. He has a small CNC machine that he uses to to cut
out the mother of pearl inlays he puts on the guitars he builds. It is
controlled by a Win 95 laptop which is the only thing it is used for. He
dreads the day it dies because he'll have to upgrade both the computer
and the design software he uses for the inlays.

In most cases that I have experienced over the years an operating system
becomes obsolete over time due to new applications or software that is
released that the older operating systems (and computer hardware) either
have difficulty running or cannot run at all.

I still have a laptop that runs XP. I even have a laptop that has Win
95 on it. Both work fine but neither can do what my newer, Win 7
computer can do .... or even the 6 year old Vista laptop I am using
right now.


What can't you do?


One thing is view or edit videos in mp4 or .mov format. My wife, my
daughter and daughter-in-law in SC often send videos taken with their
iPhones. QuickTime or another third party viewer is required in XP and
Vista. Win 7 can view and edit using Windows media player and Movie Maker.

In general, the Win 7 and Vista computers are faster, have far fewer
"crashes" and have no problems either in browsing the web, playing a
game or general use. Obviously email and newsgroup functions don't task
a computer much. I haven't used XP for quite a while.

I use VLC Media player which will play most anything.

http://download.cnet.com/VLC-Media-P...-10267151.html
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:47:00 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/15/2015 9:21 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 08:52:10 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/15/2015 1:19 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:55:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://makeuseof.tradepub.com/free/w_wile155/prgm.cgi

FREE book on Windoze 8. Computer to run it, extra.


===

Just for your obviously lacking information, Windows 8 generally
sucks.

Windows 7 is the good one.

I haven't had a windows 8 crash yet. That's gotta count for something,
eh? And touch screen gesturing makes some tasks easier and quicker.

Hows that motorhome working out for you? Got any trips planned up this way?

Great. The closest I will be to you in the foreseeable future is
Kentucky? If you have the wanderlust we might be able to hookup
somewhere. As you know, I don't discuss my plans in forums. :-)

I've always wanted to 'do' Kentucky by motorcycle. We went through it via interstate
from west to east coming back from Utah, but didn't see much. We're going to spend a
few days at Smith Mountain Lake down by Roanoke later. Send me an email about
Kentucky. Hell, who knows we may make it down that way. We've also got a week planned
for Indiana and a night or two in southern Michigan later in the summer. (Michigan is
so my wife can fill in that state on her little map, you know.)
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

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On 3/15/2015 2:31 PM, John H. wrote:


I use VLC Media player which will play most anything.

http://download.cnet.com/VLC-Media-P...-10267151.html



I have it on the Vista laptop and have used it instead of Quicktime from
time to time.

Only thing I noticed is that on some video files the color is sometimes
washed out almost completely when compared to playing the same video in
Media Player or even Quicktime (if .mp4 or .mov). Doesn't happen all
the time and can't explain why it does it.

Don't need it on the Win 7 computer. Media Player displays everything
just fine.

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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:13:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/15/2015 1:40 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 09:41:24 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 09:06:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It has to be something in how he has it set up or possibly missing
a required Flash driver.

===

Or possibly an interaction with ad blocking or anti virus software. I
use Firefox (with Win 7) most of the time but certain videos will not
play unless I switch to Internet Explorer.

Does that occur when you click a link only outside Firefox?



If you are using Firefox as your browser, how do you click on a link
"outside" Firefox?

I sure wish I could write as well as Harry.

If someone posts a link to a video here, in the newsgroup, and I'm seeing the link in
my newsreader, Agent, I can double click the link and my default browser will open to
that site. If I've set Firefox to be the default, then Firefox will open and go to
that page. If IE is set as default, then IE will open to that page.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.