On 3/13/2015 3:21 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 20:25:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/12/2015 8:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:39:43 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:18:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/12/2015 12:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:28:12 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


It appeared her computer knowledge came from watching CSI on TV where
the police geek can recover everything ever typed on the bad guy's PC.

Apparently "they" want HRC's personal emails now.
"They" being the GOP, Hillary-haters, and muckrakers.
She will tell them to pound sand.
And pound sand they will.

Another moronic left-wing opinion.

Into which category do the Democrats fall?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolit...illary-clinton



I think any chance the GOP had of defeating Hillary (or any other
Democratic nominee) in 2016 was just blown to hell by the 37 year old,
newly hatched Senator Cotton and the other 46 imbeciles who signed the
letter to Iran that he drafted.

18 months is a long time in politics. If this Iran thing blows up
after a "deal" is struck, they might be seen as forward looking.

Of course if the "deal" doesn't work, it'll be the fault of the letter.
Signed by the "47 traitors," according to one newspaper.
I wonder if Eric Holder is looking at prosecuting them as a parting
gift?


John Stewart pointed out that Nancy Pelosi did a similar thing under
Bush's watch.





I am sure those interested in this have done some reading on the Logan
Act. If not, it's worthwhile to understand where it came from and the
times people have been accused of possibly violating it.

There have been several accusations but only one stuck. Most are never
prosecuted. The Supreme Court has weighed in on a couple as well.

Of all the accusations over the years none compare to what the 47 just
did. It's important to read the Act, read the Supreme Court's rulings
and then what the letter sent to Iran said, signed by the 47 GOP
senators. Then decide. I suspect nothing will be done but it will be
a major campaign issue in 2016, I'll bet. GOP shoots itself in the foot
again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act


Interesting read. I found this interesting in the 1975 case
"Nothing in section 953 [Logan Act], however, would appear to restrict
members of the Congress from engaging in discussions with foreign
officials in pursuance of their legislative duties under the
Constitution."

This was interesting too
"Washington has threatened to use the Act to stop Americans from
negotiating with foreign governments. For example, in February 1941
Under Secretary of State Sumner Welles told the press that former
President Herbert Hoover might be a target for prosecution because of
his negotiations with European nations over sending food relief.[5]"

Can anyone say "Clinton Global Initiative" ? ;-)

I think the bottom line is, nobody has ever been convicted of this law
and it isn't going to happen now.
I doubt they really want to kick this tar baby because who knows who
might get stuck.


Hard to convict a Congressman as they are to advise and consent on foreign
treaties. So they are advising and not consenting.


Problem with the 47 is that they were advising the wrong side.

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/13/2015 3:21 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 20:25:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/12/2015 8:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:39:43 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:18:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/12/2015 12:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:28:12 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


It appeared her computer knowledge came from watching CSI on TV where
the police geek can recover everything ever typed on the bad guy's PC.

Apparently "they" want HRC's personal emails now.
"They" being the GOP, Hillary-haters, and muckrakers.
She will tell them to pound sand.
And pound sand they will.

Another moronic left-wing opinion.

Into which category do the Democrats fall?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolit...illary-clinton



I think any chance the GOP had of defeating Hillary (or any other
Democratic nominee) in 2016 was just blown to hell by the 37 year old,
newly hatched Senator Cotton and the other 46 imbeciles who signed the
letter to Iran that he drafted.

18 months is a long time in politics. If this Iran thing blows up
after a "deal" is struck, they might be seen as forward looking.

Of course if the "deal" doesn't work, it'll be the fault of the letter.
Signed by the "47 traitors," according to one newspaper.
I wonder if Eric Holder is looking at prosecuting them as a parting
gift?


John Stewart pointed out that Nancy Pelosi did a similar thing under
Bush's watch.





I am sure those interested in this have done some reading on the Logan
Act. If not, it's worthwhile to understand where it came from and the
times people have been accused of possibly violating it.

There have been several accusations but only one stuck. Most are never
prosecuted. The Supreme Court has weighed in on a couple as well.

Of all the accusations over the years none compare to what the 47 just
did. It's important to read the Act, read the Supreme Court's rulings
and then what the letter sent to Iran said, signed by the 47 GOP
senators. Then decide. I suspect nothing will be done but it will be
a major campaign issue in 2016, I'll bet. GOP shoots itself in the foot
again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act


Interesting read. I found this interesting in the 1975 case
"Nothing in section 953 [Logan Act], however, would appear to restrict
members of the Congress from engaging in discussions with foreign
officials in pursuance of their legislative duties under the
Constitution."

This was interesting too
"Washington has threatened to use the Act to stop Americans from
negotiating with foreign governments. For example, in February 1941
Under Secretary of State Sumner Welles told the press that former
President Herbert Hoover might be a target for prosecution because of
his negotiations with European nations over sending food relief.[5]"

Can anyone say "Clinton Global Initiative" ? ;-)

I think the bottom line is, nobody has ever been convicted of this law
and it isn't going to happen now.
I doubt they really want to kick this tar baby because who knows who
might get stuck.


Hard to convict a Congressman as they are to advise and consent on foreign
treaties. So they are advising and not consenting.


Problem with the 47 is that they were advising the wrong side.

Still hard to apply Logan act. Probably damn near impossible. Didn't
Kerry when he was Senator, go off on an indecent interview tour. Forget
which country.