On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 20:32:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

"The clear assertion of the judges is
that there is no legitimate health reason to be asking about gun ownership."

Well, is there?

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I think Harry is very conflicted about his alleged gun ownership.

On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 22:48:06 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/9/15 10:40 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 7:14:54 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/9/15 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:51:50 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:


In a further assault on sanity, your state's backwards Republican
government has forbidden medical personnel from discussing firearms
safety with their patients.



Harry, I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've read from you all day.
Are Dr.'s to be firearms instructors?
Seriously. Is yours?


Doctors are qualified to ask whether a household has firearms and
whether they are locked up and kept away from children. My wife
sometimes asks that question of patients who are out of control and
their family members and advises the family members to remove the
firearms from the household.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

OK the where'd you come up with this foolishness?

" In a further assault on sanity, your state's backwards Republican
government has forbidden medical personnel from discussing firearms
safety with their patients. "

Something you dream would be true?



It has been in the news for several years relating to Florida.

"In Florida, in 2011, a law was signed that made it illegal for doctors
to ask patients if they owned a gun. If doctors violate this law, they
can be disciplined, leading to fines, citations and even a loss of their
license.

A lower court struck down the law in 2012. But last week, a panel of
judges on the United States Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit upheld
it. In their ruling, the judges declared that the law regulates
physician conduct “to protect patient privacy and curtail abuses of the
physician-patient relationship.” The clear assertion of the judges is
that there is no legitimate health reason to be asking about gun ownership."

http://tinyurl.com/mt7tyka

An unnecessary invasion of privacy.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

On 3/9/2015 10:14 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/9/15 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:51:50 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:


In a further assault on sanity, your state's backwards Republican
government has forbidden medical personnel from discussing firearms
safety with their patients.



Harry, I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've read from you all
day.
Are Dr.'s to be firearms instructors?
Seriously. Is yours?


Doctors are qualified to ask whether a household has firearms and
whether they are locked up and kept away from children. My wife
sometimes asks that question of patients who are out of control and
their family members and advises the family members to remove the
firearms from the household.

Your wife is not a doctor, dummy. She's a social worker with a PHD.
Doctors have patients. Social workers have clients. Get it?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On 3/9/2015 10:18 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/9/15 9:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 17:51:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/9/15 4:49 PM, wrote:
On 9 Mar 2015 20:29:01 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 11:58:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 12:04:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...in Florida, where the state government controlled by
Republic Rick
Scott, may have figured out a way to beat climate change:
ignore it.

A report by the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting
published
Sunday details the claims by employees of the Florida
Department of
Environmental Protection, who say that they were ordered to
refrain from
using the terms "climate change," and "global warming" in official
communications.

"We were told not to use the terms 'climate change,' 'global
warming' or
'sustainability,' " Christopher Byrd, an attorney with the
DEP's Office
of General Counsel in Tallahassee from 2008 to 2013, told FCIR.
"That
message was communicated to me and my colleagues by our
superiors in the
Office of General Counsel."

The unwritten policy went into effect shortly after Governor
Rick Scott,
a global warming skeptic, took office. With the publication of
FCIR's
report, several climate change believers took to Twitter to
express
their dismay.

https://twitter.com/algore/status/574575981014421504

While less formal, the Florida policy is reminiscent of a 2012 law
passed by lawmakers in North Carolina that prohibits the state
from
basing coastal policies on scientific predictions regarding sea
level
rise. Scientists have warned that, like much of Florida's
coastline,
North Carolina's outer banks are at particular risk from
climate change.

http://tinyurl.com/m5owgwj

As usual, the stupid runs high and deep in the south.

Krause, do you live in the north or the south?

Because...wherever that is, stupid runs high and deep there.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

He was self-describing. He lives below the Mason-Dixon.

And he is right, stupid does run high in the South. The lower
South you
get, the smarter folks are!

The last verse of the Maryland state song says it all


I hear the distant thunder-hum,
Maryland!
The Old Line's bugle, fife, and drum,
Maryland!
She is not dead, nor deaf, nor dumb-
Huzza! she spurns the Northern scum!
She breathes! she burns! she'll come! she'll come!
Maryland! My Maryland!

They are unreconstructed southerners.

I doubt state employees here will be told not to use the terms Florida
state employees were told not to use in regard to climate change.

No they just sing about spurning the northern scum. Wonder who that
means?

I vaguely remembered that little diddy from when we used to sing in
school.
It is interesting it hasn't been scrubbed.

As for global warming, it has been going on since the rise of
agriculture, what's your solution? Go back to more natural farming
techniques and scrub a few billion off the population?
I bet they won't be the rich white people you hate so much.


In the years I have lived in Maryland, I have never heard the state song
sung, not at ball games, festivals, or even at the opening of the
legislature. It's a relic from the Civil War era.

I was discussing *today*. Your state's backwards Republican government
has forbidden for political reasons its officials/employees from using
the terms "global warming" and "climate change."

In a further assault on sanity, your state's backwards Republican
government has forbidden medical personnel from discussing firearms
safety with their patients.

Why would anyone expect firearm tips from a doctor who probably never
owned one or had any training himself?


Pediatricians especially often ask home safety questions. Apparently
Rick Scott thinks he knows better.

Doctors notes are effectively public record. Would you want your kid
telling his doctor how you fondle your weapons?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:28:15 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/9/2015 10:14 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/9/15 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:51:50 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:


In a further assault on sanity, your state's backwards Republican
government has forbidden medical personnel from discussing firearms
safety with their patients.



Harry, I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've read from you all
day.
Are Dr.'s to be firearms instructors?
Seriously. Is yours?


Doctors are qualified to ask whether a household has firearms and
whether they are locked up and kept away from children. My wife
sometimes asks that question of patients who are out of control and
their family members and advises the family members to remove the
firearms from the household.

Your wife is not a doctor, dummy. She's a social worker with a PHD.
Doctors have patients. Social workers have clients. Get it?

Yeah, but what if she has two or three PhD's?
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

On 3/10/2015 8:37 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:28:15 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/9/2015 10:14 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/9/15 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:51:50 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:


In a further assault on sanity, your state's backwards Republican
government has forbidden medical personnel from discussing firearms
safety with their patients.



Harry, I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've read from you all
day.
Are Dr.'s to be firearms instructors?
Seriously. Is yours?


Doctors are qualified to ask whether a household has firearms and
whether they are locked up and kept away from children. My wife
sometimes asks that question of patients who are out of control and
their family members and advises the family members to remove the
firearms from the household.

Your wife is not a doctor, dummy. She's a social worker with a PHD.
Doctors have patients. Social workers have clients. Get it?

Yeah, but what if she has two or three PhD's?



Hell, I am "qualified" to ask anyone I know if they have guns at home
and I don't have a PhD.

Doesn't mean I have a lawful right to expect an answer.

On 3/10/15 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/10/2015 8:37 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:28:15 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/9/2015 10:14 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/9/15 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:51:50 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:


In a further assault on sanity, your state's backwards Republican
government has forbidden medical personnel from discussing firearms
safety with their patients.



Harry, I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've read from you all
day.
Are Dr.'s to be firearms instructors?
Seriously. Is yours?


Doctors are qualified to ask whether a household has firearms and
whether they are locked up and kept away from children. My wife
sometimes asks that question of patients who are out of control and
their family members and advises the family members to remove the
firearms from the household.

Your wife is not a doctor, dummy. She's a social worker with a PHD.
Doctors have patients. Social workers have clients. Get it?

Yeah, but what if she has two or three PhD's?



Hell, I am "qualified" to ask anyone I know if they have guns at home
and I don't have a PhD.

Doesn't mean I have a lawful right to expect an answer.



I don't recall reading that an "answer" to that question or others on
other subjects were lawfully required of patients.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 10:40:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/10/2015 8:37 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:28:15 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/9/2015 10:14 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/9/15 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:51:50 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:


In a further assault on sanity, your state's backwards Republican
government has forbidden medical personnel from discussing firearms
safety with their patients.



Harry, I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've read from you all
day.
Are Dr.'s to be firearms instructors?
Seriously. Is yours?


Doctors are qualified to ask whether a household has firearms and
whether they are locked up and kept away from children. My wife
sometimes asks that question of patients who are out of control and
their family members and advises the family members to remove the
firearms from the household.

Your wife is not a doctor, dummy. She's a social worker with a PHD.
Doctors have patients. Social workers have clients. Get it?

Yeah, but what if she has two or three PhD's?



Hell, I am "qualified" to ask anyone I know if they have guns at home
and I don't have a PhD.

Doesn't mean I have a lawful right to expect an answer.


Yeah, but if the person says it's none of your business, that person doesn't have to
worry about you shoving a big finger up his butt!
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

On 3/10/15 10:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 10:40:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Hell, I am "qualified" to ask anyone I know if they have guns at home
and I don't have a PhD.

Doesn't mean I have a lawful right to expect an answer.


Yeah, but if the person says it's none of your business, that person doesn't have to
worry about you shoving a big finger up his butt!


You should be thankful, because it'll be the only sexual contact you get.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 10:52:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/10/15 10:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 10:40:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Hell, I am "qualified" to ask anyone I know if they have guns at home
and I don't have a PhD.

Doesn't mean I have a lawful right to expect an answer.


Yeah, but if the person says it's none of your business, that person doesn't have to
worry about you shoving a big finger up his butt!


You should be thankful, because it'll be the only sexual contact you get.

To you that is 'sexual contact' eh?
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.