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Keyser Söze March 7th 15 08:28 PM

My new Mosin...
 

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Wayne.B March 7th 15 08:45 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.


===

Don't you have trouble wrapping your fat little fingers around that
grip? I really think you'd be happier with some sort of pink poodle
gun.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=615381

John H.[_5_] March 7th 15 09:04 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.


I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Keyser Söze March 7th 15 09:27 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.


I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.


N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

John H.[_5_] March 7th 15 09:41 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.


I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.


N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.


Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Keyser Söze March 7th 15 09:44 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.

I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.


N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.


Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?


Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

John H.[_5_] March 7th 15 09:51 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.

I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.


N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.


Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?


Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.


How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Someone March 8th 15 03:28 AM

My new Mosin...
 
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.

How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 12:36 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.

How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...


I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Keyser Söze March 8th 15 02:32 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...


I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 03:32 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...


I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.


Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered 'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Keyser Söze March 8th 15 03:41 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.


Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered 'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 03:49 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.


Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered 'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.


How's your back? Sore? Red?
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Keyser Söze March 8th 15 04:06 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered 'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.


How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Justan Olphart March 8th 15 04:12 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.


How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



Wayne.B March 8th 15 04:30 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.


===

You should spend more time out there.

John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 04:54 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.


Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Keyser Söze March 8th 15 06:04 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.


Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Keyser Söze March 8th 15 06:16 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/15 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:54:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.


We set up a little agility trail behind the house to stay in shape for
our vacations although my wife's phone says she is walking 10,000,
12,000 steps a day. It is all flat land tho.
Way back when, Seaboard Railroad owned the right of way behind my
house and they piled up quite a berm for a trestle above the Estero
River so it makes a great training hill. The grade is over 100% (more
rise than run)


Since neither you nor Herring have done the trail I mentioned, your
comments about it are just silly.

I suspect this might be the outcome for either of you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhhRajRxoyI

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 06:22 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 13:31:56 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:32:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.


Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered 'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?


We drove by it and couldn't find a parking space.

That is not our kind of hike anyway.
We like a 5-8 mile walk where we don't see anyone else.
We had to get to this trail on a boat and we were alone.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/units/kbay/kbayl.htm

I still didn't think I needed a gun


Looked a lot like Mendenhall Glacier by Juneau.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/med...ll-glacier.jpg
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Justan Olphart March 8th 15 06:29 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/2015 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.



You should do more hiking and then an extra few ounces would not
bother you so much. This is not climbing Everest, it is walking down a
fairly well manicured trail.

Why do you think you need a gun on such a well used hiking trail?



He likes to pretend to be the sheriff of nouthingham.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 06:35 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.


Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.


Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.

--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Keyser Söze March 8th 15 06:45 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/15 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.


Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.



When's the last time you saw me, Herring. Oh, wait, at least 12 years
ago. I've shaped up nicely since then, what with my treadmill,
eliptical, and mountain bike and, unlike you, I haven't had to undergo a
series of surgeries for a disintegrating body.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Wayne.B March 8th 15 06:54 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:16:36 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Since neither you nor Herring have done the trail I mentioned, your
comments about it are just silly.


===

If you want a real hike, try this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypI1MYwk2eU

Justan Olphart March 8th 15 07:02 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/2015 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.


Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.

I think you're on to another Krause lie. ;-)

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 07:03 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:45:41 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.


Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.



When's the last time you saw me, Herring. Oh, wait, at least 12 years
ago. I've shaped up nicely since then, what with my treadmill,
eliptical, and mountain bike and, unlike you, I haven't had to undergo a
series of surgeries for a disintegrating body.


LOL!
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Justan Olphart March 8th 15 07:04 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/2015 2:45 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in
about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much
weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the
Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on
your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and
report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is
one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only
occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I
know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour
eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running
their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.


Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done
Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now
unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that
much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you
go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned
all this
'hiking' you now claim.



When's the last time you saw me, Herring. Oh, wait, at least 12 years
ago. I've shaped up nicely since then, what with my treadmill,
eliptical, and mountain bike and, unlike you, I haven't had to undergo a
series of surgeries for a disintegrating body.

As of the time you installed the storm door on your deck, you were still
a porker. When was that? Last year?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



Justan Olphart March 8th 15 07:07 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/2015 3:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:45:41 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.

Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.



When's the last time you saw me, Herring. Oh, wait, at least 12 years
ago. I've shaped up nicely since then, what with my treadmill,
eliptical, and mountain bike and, unlike you, I haven't had to undergo a
series of surgeries for a disintegrating body.


LOL!

"Shaped up nicely" The jerk really loves himself, doesn't he?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



Keyser Söze March 8th 15 07:08 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/15 3:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:45:41 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.

Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.



When's the last time you saw me, Herring. Oh, wait, at least 12 years
ago. I've shaped up nicely since then, what with my treadmill,
eliptical, and mountain bike and, unlike you, I haven't had to undergo a
series of surgeries for a disintegrating body.


LOL!


Hey, you're the one who keeps getting operated upon, not me. Oh, I had a
cataract removed a few years ago.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 07:11 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:02:12 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.


Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.

I think you're on to another Krause lie. ;-)


I don't know...now he's saying he really got into shape!
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Wayne.B March 8th 15 07:14 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:22:28 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 13:31:56 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:32:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered 'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?


We drove by it and couldn't find a parking space.

That is not our kind of hike anyway.
We like a 5-8 mile walk where we don't see anyone else.
We had to get to this trail on a boat and we were alone.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/units/kbay/kbayl.htm

I still didn't think I needed a gun


Looked a lot like Mendenhall Glacier by Juneau.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/med...ll-glacier.jpg


===

We took a helicopter ride from Juneau to a spot on the top of the
Mendenhall, up in the valley above that lake. We were able to hike
around on the glacier for an hour or so. It was an interesting
experience and a great view. The irisidescent blue color that old ice
develops in the crevices is really spectacular.

Keyser Söze March 8th 15 07:20 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/15 3:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:02:12 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.

Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.

I think you're on to another Krause lie. ;-)


I don't know...now he's saying he really got into shape!



Go do the Old Rag Mountain trail and take the Florida moron, aka FlaJim,
with you. And take a bottle of oxygen for him.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 07:29 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:08:09 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 3:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:45:41 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.

Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.



When's the last time you saw me, Herring. Oh, wait, at least 12 years
ago. I've shaped up nicely since then, what with my treadmill,
eliptical, and mountain bike and, unlike you, I haven't had to undergo a
series of surgeries for a disintegrating body.


LOL!


Hey, you're the one who keeps getting operated upon, not me. Oh, I had a
cataract removed a few years ago.


Harry, if you're no longer obese,and you exercise as you say, and you don't have a 40
year history of smoking, and you were never exposed to lots of Agent Orange, then you
should be in *much* better overall shape than I am.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 07:32 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:04:41 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 2:45 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in
about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much
weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the
Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on
your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and
report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is
one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only
occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but I
know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six hour
eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids running
their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.

Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done
Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now
unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that
much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you
go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned
all this
'hiking' you now claim.



When's the last time you saw me, Herring. Oh, wait, at least 12 years
ago. I've shaped up nicely since then, what with my treadmill,
eliptical, and mountain bike and, unlike you, I haven't had to undergo a
series of surgeries for a disintegrating body.

As of the time you installed the storm door on your deck, you were still
a porker. When was that? Last year?


Maybe all that exercise equipment is on his deck.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Wayne.B March 8th 15 07:48 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:11:13 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.

I think you're on to another Krause lie. ;-)


I don't know...now he's saying he really got into shape!


===

Like a fine wine, Harry just keeps getting better with age - at least
in his own mind.

Justan Olphart March 8th 15 08:38 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On 3/8/2015 3:20 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 3:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:02:12 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/8/2015 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a
686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in
about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much
weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a
lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the
Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf
course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on
your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag
Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it
and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be
considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is
one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular
panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit
hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only
hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only
occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but
I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six
hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids
running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.

Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have
done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now
unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that
much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when
you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you
mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.

I think you're on to another Krause lie. ;-)


I don't know...now he's saying he really got into shape!



Go do the Old Rag Mountain trail and take the Florida moron, aka FlaJim,
with you. And take a bottle of oxygen for him.


It is not I who has to hook up to a CPAP machine to get through the
night. Did medical insurance foot the bill for your emergency generator?
Bet it did.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 10:15 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:14:52 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:22:28 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 13:31:56 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:32:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered 'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?

We drove by it and couldn't find a parking space.

That is not our kind of hike anyway.
We like a 5-8 mile walk where we don't see anyone else.
We had to get to this trail on a boat and we were alone.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/units/kbay/kbayl.htm

I still didn't think I needed a gun


Looked a lot like Mendenhall Glacier by Juneau.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/med...ll-glacier.jpg


===

We took a helicopter ride from Juneau to a spot on the top of the
Mendenhall, up in the valley above that lake. We were able to hike
around on the glacier for an hour or so. It was an interesting
experience and a great view. The irisidescent blue color that old ice
develops in the crevices is really spectacular.


We didn't have time for the helicopter jaunt. The Disney ship had changed the
departure port from Vancouver, Canada, to Seattle, WA. This made boarding and such
much easier for us as I have a brother living there. But, the extra sailing time was
subtracted from some of the stops. I won't ever do that cruise again, but if I did,
I'd want to go out of Vancouver.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 10:15 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:38:05 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/8/2015 3:20 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 3:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:02:12 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/8/2015 2:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:04:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 12:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:12:26 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/8/2015 12:06 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/8/15 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:41:44 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/8/15 11:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel.
Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger
caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces
heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a
686
with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4"
barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a
holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in
about 40
miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I
mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much
weight. I
told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a
lot of
weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the
Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf
course
pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on
your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag
Mountain
twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it
and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a
relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be
considered
'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag
Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is
one of
the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular
panoramic
views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit
hike
is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only
hike
we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This
wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?



We do that one in the early spring and late fall, and only
occasionally
encounter other hikers, and rarely others with small kids.

Probably not a hike for you, what with all your surgeries and
disabilities.

How's your back? Sore? Red?



D'oh.

Usually, it is my upper legs that get sore from those hikes, but
I know
that's not what you mean.

If you'd shed a few pounds, walking would be easier for you.

Hey, he only does it twice a year, starting before dawn for six
hour eight mile hike.
He should be OK, as long as he doesn't get run over by kids
running their way up the
trail.



There's nothing quite like the lack of reading comprehension skills
among you righties. Indeed, We usually do Old Rag Mountain
twice a season, starting before dawn. Nowhere in that phrase is it
stated or implied that is the only trail hiking we do. Also, as I
stated, you should try it and report back here, or have your survivors
do so.

Harry, I believe that 20 years ago you and some buddies may have
done Old Rag
Mountain. I don't believe, having met you, that you could do it now
unless you've
really shaped up. As you don't discuss your gym experiences all that
much, I doubt
that you have. For the past several years you've let us know when
you go on your
stump shootin' trips with your buddies. Never once have you
mentioned all this
'hiking' you now claim.

I think you're on to another Krause lie. ;-)

I don't know...now he's saying he really got into shape!



Go do the Old Rag Mountain trail and take the Florida moron, aka FlaJim,
with you. And take a bottle of oxygen for him.


It is not I who has to hook up to a CPAP machine to get through the
night. Did medical insurance foot the bill for your emergency generator?
Bet it did.


That's a pretty good question.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Wayne.B March 8th 15 10:29 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 18:15:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:14:52 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:22:28 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 13:31:56 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:32:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered 'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?

We drove by it and couldn't find a parking space.

That is not our kind of hike anyway.
We like a 5-8 mile walk where we don't see anyone else.
We had to get to this trail on a boat and we were alone.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/units/kbay/kbayl.htm

I still didn't think I needed a gun

Looked a lot like Mendenhall Glacier by Juneau.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/med...ll-glacier.jpg


===

We took a helicopter ride from Juneau to a spot on the top of the
Mendenhall, up in the valley above that lake. We were able to hike
around on the glacier for an hour or so. It was an interesting
experience and a great view. The irisidescent blue color that old ice
develops in the crevices is really spectacular.


We didn't have time for the helicopter jaunt. The Disney ship had changed the
departure port from Vancouver, Canada, to Seattle, WA. This made boarding and such
much easier for us as I have a brother living there. But, the extra sailing time was
subtracted from some of the stops. I won't ever do that cruise again, but if I did,
I'd want to go out of Vancouver.


===

It was recommended to us that we do the reverse route where you fly
into Fairbanks, work your way south on the bus and train tour, and
then board the cruise ship in Whittier for the ride south to
Vancouver. It worked out very well and the weather was great even
though there was still snow on the ground in Fairbanks.

John H.[_5_] March 8th 15 10:59 PM

My new Mosin...
 
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 18:29:18 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 18:15:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:14:52 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:22:28 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 13:31:56 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:32:04 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/8/15 8:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 22:28:05 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:44:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:41 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:27:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/7/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/nb8dgjs


Nah. It's my new S&W 686 in .357 MAG with a 4" barrel. Those are
snapcaps in the chambers.
I'll have to stick with the N frame, thank you.

N frame .357s are nice, but too heavy. Now, for a larger caliber, maybe
not.
Too heavy for what? Concealed carry?

Open carry out in the woods in a holster. About 10 ounces heavier than a
686, which is also fairly heavy. I would have gone for a 686 with a 3"
barrel, but the one that came up I was offered has the 4" barrel. Still,
it is lighter than the Ruger GP100 I had and sold.
How many miles do you walk in the woods with a pistol in a holster? I can't imagine
ten ounces making a difference unless you're putting in about 40 miles a day.


My money is on ZERO...

I bought small luggage carrier to put on our bicycles. When I mentioned same to my
bicyclist brother, he commented that they added too much weight. I told him it
weighed only a little over a pound. His reply, "That's a lot of weight when you're
carrying it from here (Seattle) to Portland in a weekend."

I suppose he was right.



There are some interesting trails we hike in the Shenandoah/Skyline
area. The ones we like are not like walking around a golf course pulling
a bag of clubs in a cart. Every ounce of weight you carry on your belt
or in your pack matters sometimes. We usually do Old Rag Mountain twice
a season, starting before dawn. Perhaps you should try it and report
back here.

Yup, you're right. Pushing a golf cart five or six miles on a relatively (compared to
the Shenandoah Mountains) flat golf course would not be considered 'real' walking to
you heavy hikers!

(You're sounding almost like Luddite!)

I can see why you'd want to carry a .357 revolver on the Old Rag Mountain hike:

"The Old Rag Mountain hike in the Shenandoah National Park is one of the most popular
hikes in the mid-Atlantic region. With many spectacular panoramic views, and one of
the most challenging rock scrambles in the park, this circuit hike is a favorite of
many hikers. But be prepared for the crowds. This is the only hike we give a star
rating for solitude."

Gotta be prepared to defend against all those people, eh? This wouldn't just be a way
to show off to the families and kids, would it?

We drove by it and couldn't find a parking space.

That is not our kind of hike anyway.
We like a 5-8 mile walk where we don't see anyone else.
We had to get to this trail on a boat and we were alone.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/units/kbay/kbayl.htm

I still didn't think I needed a gun

Looked a lot like Mendenhall Glacier by Juneau.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/med...ll-glacier.jpg

===

We took a helicopter ride from Juneau to a spot on the top of the
Mendenhall, up in the valley above that lake. We were able to hike
around on the glacier for an hour or so. It was an interesting
experience and a great view. The irisidescent blue color that old ice
develops in the crevices is really spectacular.


We didn't have time for the helicopter jaunt. The Disney ship had changed the
departure port from Vancouver, Canada, to Seattle, WA. This made boarding and such
much easier for us as I have a brother living there. But, the extra sailing time was
subtracted from some of the stops. I won't ever do that cruise again, but if I did,
I'd want to go out of Vancouver.


===

It was recommended to us that we do the reverse route where you fly
into Fairbanks, work your way south on the bus and train tour, and
then board the cruise ship in Whittier for the ride south to
Vancouver. It worked out very well and the weather was great even
though there was still snow on the ground in Fairbanks.


That's what I'd do next time. Did you set that up with a travel agency, cruise line,
or do it yourself?
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.


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