On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 11:14:45 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 07:18:43 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Virtually all fuel in this area is first delivered by truck from Tampa
which is about 100 miles to the north. That adds around 5 to 10 cents
a gallon.

The funny thing about that is gas is actually 15-20 cents cheaper in
Tampa than it is in South Ft Myers and Tampa is more like 140 miles
north. Then when you go another 15 miles down to Bonita it jumps
another 20 cents. Those last 20 miles must really be tough on the
teamsters. ;-)

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My youngest son, the ivey league MBA, and I once did a thought
exercise on the economics of setting up a fuel terminal business in
SWFL and barging it in from Tampa. It was clear that the start up
costs would be quite high and the permitting hurdles added both
expense and a fair degree of risk. It would be easier for an
established business like Ballards in FMB but they seem happy just
selling diesel to shrimpers. If I was younger and more
entrepreneurial I might try to buy them out or make a business
proposal.

On 3/5/2015 12:51 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 22:48:41 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
The storage problem is beginning to hit US oil producers as tank farms
are close to being full. Once crude oil is pumped out of the ground
it has to go somewhere. If there is no additional room to store
domestic oil it will drive prices downward in the commodity auction
pool, possibly by a large amount. The other good news is that
imported oil will continue to be squeezed out of the US market and put
additional pressure on the Russians and Venezuela.

I need to fuel up our trawler one of these days with 900 gallons of
diesel before we take off for a spring cruise. I've been delaying in
the expectation of lower prices. Stay tuned.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/outside-the-boardroom/article/Traders-can-t-ignore-oil-storage-limits-much-6114400.php

$5 a toll on diesel Kona. $2.99 regular Costco.

we are seeing $2.29-$2.49 right around here. It can swing 20-30 cents
within a few miles so you have to look around.
There are a few places that are really gouging tho.



I give up. What does "$5 a toll" mean?

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/5/2015 12:51 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 22:48:41 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
The storage problem is beginning to hit US oil producers as tank farms
are close to being full. Once crude oil is pumped out of the ground
it has to go somewhere. If there is no additional room to store
domestic oil it will drive prices downward in the commodity auction
pool, possibly by a large amount. The other good news is that
imported oil will continue to be squeezed out of the US market and put
additional pressure on the Russians and Venezuela.

I need to fuel up our trawler one of these days with 900 gallons of
diesel before we take off for a spring cruise. I've been delaying in
the expectation of lower prices. Stay tuned.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/outside-the-boardroom/article/Traders-can-t-ignore-oil-storage-limits-much-6114400.php

$5 a toll on diesel Kona. $2.99 regular Costco.

we are seeing $2.29-$2.49 right around here. It can swing 20-30 cents
within a few miles so you have to look around.
There are a few places that are really gouging tho.



I give up. What does "$5 a toll" mean?

Means autocorrect gal.

On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 00:51:15 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 22:48:41 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
The storage problem is beginning to hit US oil producers as tank farms
are close to being full. Once crude oil is pumped out of the ground
it has to go somewhere. If there is no additional room to store
domestic oil it will drive prices downward in the commodity auction
pool, possibly by a large amount. The other good news is that
imported oil will continue to be squeezed out of the US market and put
additional pressure on the Russians and Venezuela.

I need to fuel up our trawler one of these days with 900 gallons of
diesel before we take off for a spring cruise. I've been delaying in
the expectation of lower prices. Stay tuned.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/outside-the-boardroom/article/Traders-can-t-ignore-oil-storage-limits-much-6114400.php

$5 a toll on diesel Kona. $2.99 regular Costco.

we are seeing $2.29-$2.49 right around here. It can swing 20-30 cents
within a few miles so you have to look around.
There are a few places that are really gouging tho.

We have a Liberty getting $2.89, and not a half mile down Franconia is a BP wanting
$3.59. I've no idea how the BP sells any.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 5:55:01 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:

It's been steadily rising again here in Ontario. ****ing crook cocksuckers.

On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 17:54:56 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:


The storage problem is beginning to hit US oil producers as tank farms
are close to being full. Once crude oil is pumped out of the ground
it has to go somewhere. If there is no additional room to store
domestic oil it will drive prices downward in the commodity auction
pool, possibly by a large amount. The other good news is that
imported oil will continue to be squeezed out of the US market and put
additional pressure on the Russians and Venezuela.

I need to fuel up our trawler one of these days with 900 gallons of
diesel before we take off for a spring cruise. I've been delaying in
the expectation of lower prices. Stay tuned.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/outside-the-boardroom/article/Traders-can-t-ignore-oil-storage-limits-much-6114400.php

Hope you're right. Around here diesel has started its climb. It never got below $2.79
in the first place.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Thursday, 5 March 2015 08:20:25 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 17:54:56 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:


The storage problem is beginning to hit US oil producers as tank farms
are close to being full. Once crude oil is pumped out of the ground
it has to go somewhere. If there is no additional room to store
domestic oil it will drive prices downward in the commodity auction
pool, possibly by a large amount. The other good news is that
imported oil will continue to be squeezed out of the US market and put
additional pressure on the Russians and Venezuela.

I need to fuel up our trawler one of these days with 900 gallons of
diesel before we take off for a spring cruise. I've been delaying in
the expectation of lower prices. Stay tuned.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/outside-the-boardroom/article/Traders-can-t-ignore-oil-storage-limits-much-6114400.php

Hope you're right. Around here diesel has started its climb. It never got below $2.79
in the first place.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

What are you crying about?
Here gas is $1.08 per liter and diesel around $1.30. Tomorrow that will most likely change as our sister province next door just raised their prices today.
At one time they used to claim our prices were based on some imaginary New York price. Saw in the news a week or so ago that now it's a more expensive European 'Bent' price our government regulators use.
I think the government regulators and oil companies go around to find the most expensive crude in the world to base their calculations on.

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 05:08:45 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Thursday, 5 March 2015 08:20:25 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 17:54:56 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:


The storage problem is beginning to hit US oil producers as tank farms
are close to being full. Once crude oil is pumped out of the ground
it has to go somewhere. If there is no additional room to store
domestic oil it will drive prices downward in the commodity auction
pool, possibly by a large amount. The other good news is that
imported oil will continue to be squeezed out of the US market and put
additional pressure on the Russians and Venezuela.

I need to fuel up our trawler one of these days with 900 gallons of
diesel before we take off for a spring cruise. I've been delaying in
the expectation of lower prices. Stay tuned.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/outside-the-boardroom/article/Traders-can-t-ignore-oil-storage-limits-much-6114400.php

Hope you're right. Around here diesel has started its climb. It never got below $2.79
in the first place.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

What are you crying about?
Here gas is $1.08 per liter and diesel around $1.30. Tomorrow that will most likely change as our sister province next door just raised their prices today.
At one time they used to claim our prices were based on some imaginary New York price. Saw in the news a week or so ago that now it's a more expensive European 'Bent' price our government regulators use.
I think the government regulators and oil companies go around to find the most expensive crude in the world to base their calculations on.

So why are you crying?
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 05:08:45 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Here gas is $1.08 per liter and diesel around $1.30. Tomorrow that will most likely change as our sister province next door just raised their prices today.
At one time they used to claim our prices were based on some imaginary New York price. Saw in the news a week or so ago that now it's a more expensive European 'Bent' price our government regulators use.
I think the government regulators and oil companies go around to find the most expensive crude in the world to base their calculations on.

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Gas and diesel in Europe were both over $2/liter the last time I was
there.

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 5:22:13 AM UTC-8, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 05:08:45 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Here gas is $1.08 per liter and diesel around $1.30. Tomorrow that will most likely change as our sister province next door just raised their prices today.
At one time they used to claim our prices were based on some imaginary New York price. Saw in the news a week or so ago that now it's a more expensive European 'Bent' price our government regulators use.
I think the government regulators and oil companies go around to find the most expensive crude in the world to base their calculations on.

===

Gas and diesel in Europe were both over $2/liter the last time I was
there.

And have been for years. As you know Wayne, the highly socialist governments of Europe love their high taxes. Their fuel has a high tax. In many places bicycle sales are at an all time high, and causing traffic congestion.