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On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them. :)

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.

And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.
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On 3/8/2015 1:57 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them. :)

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.



Is that appraised tax value of just the house or house and property?

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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:58:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/8/2015 1:57 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them. :)

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.



Is that appraised tax value of just the house or house and property?

For me, it's total. (I'm not very wealthy!)
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Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:14:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them. :)

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.

And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.

===

Some, perhaps all, counties in SC have a personal property tax on
things like boats and cars. We got into a monumental legal hassel one
year when Charleston County thought we owed property tax on our boat.
They were threatening to have USCG seize the boat and auction it off
until I got my son the lawyer involved. The whole claim was bogus of
course and was apparently triggered by a two day stay at the
Charleston City Marina. We like Charleston but I will never again
take the boat into a marina there.

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On 3/8/2015 3:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:14:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them. :)

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.

And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.

===

Some, perhaps all, counties in SC have a personal property tax on
things like boats and cars. We got into a monumental legal hassel one
year when Charleston County thought we owed property tax on our boat.
They were threatening to have USCG seize the boat and auction it off
until I got my son the lawyer involved. The whole claim was bogus of
course and was apparently triggered by a two day stay at the
Charleston City Marina. We like Charleston but I will never again
take the boat into a marina there.



I've heard of similar tax issues in Florida. Something about staying in
Florida waters or marinas for more than a certain time period. I think
(but am not sure) that it may have been 60 or 90 days. I recall reading
that taking a trip to another state to fuel up and keep the receipt as
proof that you were not continuously in Florida for the given time
period was one way of avoiding the tax.

That all said, when I took the Navigator to Florida it was there for
over 2 years. It was USCG documented but I think I was still supposed
to register or report it as being berthed in Florida. I didn't (because
I didn't know at the time) and I never heard any complaints.

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many
tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them. :)

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state
income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be
nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

California actually is decent on property taxes. But that is because we
passed the famous Prop. 13 about 1978. The taxes were based on the price
you paid for the house and could go up 2% a year. Taxes are 1% of the
present prop. 13 value plus any local tax overrides. Voted by the
taxpayers. Comes out to about 1.2%. Of course in my area, I do not think
there are any houses that sell for as little as $600k. My taxes are about
$2200 a year. As I bought my home in 1979 for $138.5k. But there are a
lot of people in my area that are paying $20k a year in taxes or more.

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On 3/8/2015 4:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many
tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them. :)

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state
income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be
nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

California actually is decent on property taxes. But that is because we
passed the famous Prop. 13 about 1978. The taxes were based on the price
you paid for the house and could go up 2% a year. Taxes are 1% of the
present prop. 13 value plus any local tax overrides. Voted by the
taxpayers. Comes out to about 1.2%. Of course in my area, I do not think
there are any houses that sell for as little as $600k. My taxes are about
$2200 a year. As I bought my home in 1979 for $138.5k. But there are a
lot of people in my area that are paying $20k a year in taxes or more.


$22.6K for property taxes for us in MA. It actually went down a little
two years ago because I discovered an error in the town's tax
assessment. They were charging us the full tax rate on all of the land
but about 2 acres are wetlands as delineated by the town conservation
committee.

The savings was brief however. Went back up again last year because the
town approved, built and opened a new high school the likes of which
every college in the country would die for as their campus.

http://www.duxbury.k12.ma.us/Domain/8

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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:32:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

$22.6K for property taxes for us in MA.

===

We were paying almost that much in Westchester County, NY for a *lot*
less than what you have. If it weren't for the outrageous taxes we
might still be there.

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On 3/8/2015 5:10 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:32:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

$22.6K for property taxes for us in MA.

===

We were paying almost that much in Westchester County, NY for a *lot*
less than what you have. If it weren't for the outrageous taxes we
might still be there.


Yeah, the taxes and the climate are the driving reasons for us to get
out of Dodge. We don't need this size house any longer and the rest of
the family that kept Mrs.E. here are slowly diminishing in numbers or
moving somewhere else. We took the house off the market for the heavy
winter months but will put it back on in late April or early May. At
least one of the interested parties are aware of this and are using the
time to explore financing options.

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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:38:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:14:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them. :)

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.

And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.

===

Some, perhaps all, counties in SC have a personal property tax on
things like boats and cars. We got into a monumental legal hassel one
year when Charleston County thought we owed property tax on our boat.
They were threatening to have USCG seize the boat and auction it off
until I got my son the lawyer involved. The whole claim was bogus of
course and was apparently triggered by a two day stay at the
Charleston City Marina. We like Charleston but I will never again
take the boat into a marina there.

I traded in the Proline in Essex County at a Key West dealer. Almost a year later, I
tried to get tags for my truck. The computer wouldn't let me. I called the DMV folks
who told me that Essex County had put a stop on DMV transactions because I hadn't
paid the property tax on my boat. It took several phone calls and letters to get my
name disassociated from that damn boat.

I know what you mean.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.