On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:48:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Nope just a 68 year old geezer with a shovel and a wheel barrow.
That was really just the rough in. I came back later with a square
shovel and cleaned them up before I put in the steel and formed it up
for a stem wall.
It was about 2 yards of dirt by the time I was done.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/forms.jpg

Then the walls went up on the stem wall.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/walls%20going%20up.jpg


You could never get away with that up here.

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Because of regulatory issues or frost heaves?

On 2/12/2015 6:22 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:48:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Nope just a 68 year old geezer with a shovel and a wheel barrow.
That was really just the rough in. I came back later with a square
shovel and cleaned them up before I put in the steel and formed it up
for a stem wall.
It was about 2 yards of dirt by the time I was done.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/forms.jpg

Then the walls went up on the stem wall.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/walls%20going%20up.jpg


You could never get away with that up here.

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Because of regulatory issues or frost heaves?


Both. Footings need to be at least 4' below the ground level.

On 2/12/2015 6:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2015 6:22 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:48:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Nope just a 68 year old geezer with a shovel and a wheel barrow.
That was really just the rough in. I came back later with a square
shovel and cleaned them up before I put in the steel and formed it up
for a stem wall.
It was about 2 yards of dirt by the time I was done.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/forms.jpg

Then the walls went up on the stem wall.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/walls%20going%20up.jpg


You could never get away with that up here.

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Because of regulatory issues or frost heaves?


Both. Footings need to be at least 4' below the ground level.



Afterthought:

Of course in Florida at 4' you'd likely hit water. :-)

On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:28:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/12/2015 6:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2015 6:22 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:48:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Nope just a 68 year old geezer with a shovel and a wheel barrow.
That was really just the rough in. I came back later with a square
shovel and cleaned them up before I put in the steel and formed it up
for a stem wall.
It was about 2 yards of dirt by the time I was done.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/forms.jpg

Then the walls went up on the stem wall.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/walls%20going%20up.jpg


You could never get away with that up here.

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Because of regulatory issues or frost heaves?


Both. Footings need to be at least 4' below the ground level.



Afterthought:

Of course in Florida at 4' you'd likely hit water. :-)

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That's just about right, at least at our place. I've dug two 4 ft
holes recently and hit water in both places.